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Re: I-M253 in Scotland

cslayton19@... (Clinton Slayton) — Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:42:14 -0700

I note the absence on Z2535 or equivalent on https://www.origenesmaps.com/maps/i-m253/, which one of my cousins claimed was"proficient" in Scotland and posted several YouTube vids re this, have conferred with Dr. Bruce Durie, sennachie of his clan Chief, BSc (Hons) PhD OMLJ FIGRS, Consultant Genealogist and Heraldist, Author, Broadcaster, Lecturer, and I asked him if there was any evidence of concentration of I-Z2535 (or precursors or downstreams) in Scotland, and he was kind enough to examine our Slaton project results and respond, and his opinion is basically the same as that promulgated by Ken Nordtvedt: more Anglo-Saxon than anything else.

Clinton Slayton (A1890>A11041>F1997>FT26183 >A11035 >A11036+)

I-M253 in Scotland

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:59:35 -0700

Vince,

Wondering what you think of this graph on I-M253 branches in Scotland.

https://www.origenesmaps.com/maps/i-m253/

Maybe we can get involved in the project.

Aaron

Twigstat

robeson.jim.e@... (Jim E Robeson) — Wed, 08 Jan 2025 20:44:38 -0800

I’m curious to hear if anyone has learned if anyone, any company, is beginning to use Twigstat to build out, aka enhance, family trees for the public. Twigstat was recently written about in an article in Nature (#637) January 1. Twigstat is an open source method written in C++ and R.

Twigstat has intrigued me because I am one of the old guys that used to work with Ken Nordtvedt, snp by snp, trying to figure out if I had some Viking in me. The article in Nature says that Twigstat was used to trace the movements of Northern Europeans from AD 1 to AD 1000, My paper trail only goes back to Scotland circa 1680. If only there was a way to skip back 1500 years.

Genetic genealogy speaking, the future of family trees may be just around the corner. Hopefully I might be around to see it.

Jim Robeson,

I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294 > FTA86767

Mito-H1e1a3

Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:09:09 -0800

I have done my entire genome. Will see if I can get the data.

Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

vincent@... (vineviz) — Wed, 20 Nov 2024 16:05:38 -0800

Aaron, thanks for joining the I-A5716 project! You fit right in.

It’d be nice to have a Hill upgrade to Big Y at some point, but there’s no doubt which part of the I-A5716 tree they belong to.

Vincent Vizachero

sent from my iPhone

Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:19:57 -0800

I meant that I am the founder of the haplogroup I1 project at FTDNA. I will join your subgroup. I cannot remember precisely where these matches came from. I think it was the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone project at FTDNA.

Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:11:41 -0800

I am the founder of that group at FTDNA, but have not been involved for years. Thanks for your note. That progression is from the site I cited.

Aaron

Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

vincent@... (vineviz) — Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:09:04 -0800

Aaron,

I'm not sure of your interest in this haplogroup, but we now know that I-A5716 is not downstream of I-Z58.

Instead it is directly downstream of I-DF29.

If you manage a kit that is either confirmed A5716+ or A5734+ or matches kits who have a haplogroup like this, please join our haplogroup project at https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/i-a5716-haplogroup/about

Vince Vizachero

Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Mon, 21 Mar 2022 19:11:45 -0700

An updated map for M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598 via http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html:

Any updates?

Dave31415@... — Wed, 29 Sep 2021 18:59:17 -0700

I was active in this group about 8 years ago but got into other things? What did I miss?

Re: Ken Nordtvedt

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:19:25 -0700

That is what I used. Look at the first link.

Aaron

use Wayback Machine

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 1:54 PM Aaron Hill <hillaj@...> wrote:

Re: Ken Nordtvedt

betspix@... (Betsy Shafer) — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:17:55 -0700

use Wayback Machine

Re: Ken Nordtvedt

mhartwikitree@... (Michelle Hartley) — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:53:42 -0700

Tons of Ken's file's listed here
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AG9vK41G%2DOOujfQ&id=8B35ADFFC37790D0%2189654&cid=8B35ADFFC37790D0

Terminal Haplogroup

robeson.jim.e@... (Jim E Robeson) — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:13:03 -0700

Keep your eyes on FTDNA�� They just gave me a new Terminal Haplogroup! The YFull tree hasn’t caught up yet. The Big Y test was worth it, for sure.

Jim Robeson,

I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294 > FTA86767

Mito-H1e1a

Re: Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

ma.ahlgren@... (Mats Ahlgren) — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 05:34:37 -0700

The same can be done on FTDNA’s Y-DNA Haplotree. Their tree is in fact bigger than Y’full’s

Mats

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Ämne: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

You most simple way is to use the "search on this page" function of your browser in the YFull tree.

Best,

Hans

Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy

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Onderwerp: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

Is there a way to compare one terminal haplogroup with another to determine if one is ancestral to the other? Is there a web site to easily do the comparison ?

Jim Robeson, I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294

Re: Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

hans.debeule@... (Hans De Beule) — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 23:26:09 -0700

You most simple way is to use the "search on this page" function of your browser in the YFull tree.

Best,

Hans

Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy

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Van: Jim E Robeson <robeson.jim.e@...>

Datum: 21/06/21 05:18 (GMT+01:00)

Aan: [email protected]

Onderwerp: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

robeson.jim.e@... (Jim E Robeson) — Sun, 20 Jun 2021 20:18:28 -0700

Re: M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 00:46:43 -0800

There is some confusion about the placement of Z58. It is excluded on these maps, but I do think the following is accurate.

M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > FT90664

-- Aaron

Re: M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 00:34:53 -0800

I discovered two mutations on scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html, so I am updating the info here.

M253 > DF29 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

M253 > DF29 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > FT90664

-- Aaron

Re: I-Z58

hillaj@... (Aaron Hill) — Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:03:24 -0800

I am not sure how accurate and relevant these designations are anymore, but here are my results:

Haplo-I Subclades and probabilities are as follows:

I-M253-T13 =>29% I-M253-AS1H =>22% I-M253-AS9a =>13% I-M253-ND =>11% I-M253-ASgen =>10% I-M253-AS1 =>4% I-L22-N =>4% I-L22-Bothnia =>3% I-M253-AS6 =>2%