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Uranium Ore , Depleted Uranium, Natural Uranium (Unat) Compared


 

Uranium Ore , Depleted Uranium, Natural Uranium (Unat) Compared?
For this topic we will examine the various forms of Uranium and its decay chain.

Using XRF and also Gamma Spectrum Analysis, and any other scientifically sound methods.

We will compare the characteristics of :

Uranium Ores, including species of minerals that include any naturally selected Uranium decay progeny.

Unat or natural uranium, which includes chemically separated materials, but always with the natural abundance of U-234/U-235/U-238.

DU or Depleted Uranium, which is of course natural uranium from which lighter U isotopes have been removed for use elsewhere.

Geo


taray singh
 

Geo
Good topic.
Some? radioactive? ores are naturally link to certain elements.
Granite contains small amounts of Fe which can be measured by Si pin.
Here? is pic of my local granite showing Fe peaks

Taray


 

Good scan on the granite. Was this excited (XRF)? ?or only internal (Gamma Spectrum Analysis) mode?

Some of us have a particular interest in the Gamma Spec mode (no exciter, just the Si-PIN sensor) for different reasons and soon there will be a TOPIC to gather all those type reports and comments into a theme,

In that same thought, we constantly fight Cosmic Ray Muon excitation of? internal XRF in our probe shields.? That's why we uses graded? atomic weight layers, each of a lower Z to shield against those spontaneous characteristic X-Rays.

Note- if you want to insert an attached picture into the text area of a post, it must be done on the Groups.io vs email reply, when you load picture into the? attachment window, and before clicking the ADD button, click on the picture in the preview box and Ctl+C save it to your clipboard, then go ahead and push ADD button, which should return you to the text area. Once there, find a place for the picture and click on that space, then Ctrl+V paste it there. Supposedly the GROUPS.io resizes it for the email delivery.
On the email delivery pictures, is anyone having issues that the pictures are too large??? If so we can request that members resize them down to 640 X 480, which still leaves the attachment version full size for closer examination if needed.

Geo



From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Uranium Ore , Depleted Uranium, Natural Uranium (Unat) Compared

Geo
Good topic.
Some? radioactive? ores are naturally link to certain elements.
Granite contains small amounts of Fe which can be measured by Si pin.
Here? is pic of my local granite showing Fe peaks

Taray



taray singh
 

Geo
The spectrum was done with external exciter Am241
Yes I post replies when there are attachments via group site
Was not aware of pic sizing issues at?the receiving end?
Ok will check if out
Taray




On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 11:39 PM, GEOelectronics@... wrote:

Good scan on the granite. Was this excited (XRF)? ?or only internal (Gamma Spectrum Analysis) mode?

Some of us have a particular interest in the Gamma Spec mode (no exciter, just the Si-PIN sensor) for different reasons and soon there will be a TOPIC to gather all those type reports and comments into a theme,

In that same thought, we constantly fight Cosmic Ray Muon excitation of? internal XRF in our probe shields.? That's why we uses graded? atomic weight layers, each of a lower Z to shield against those spontaneous characteristic X-Rays.

Note- if you want to insert an attached picture into the text area of a post, it must be done on the Groups.io vs email reply, when you load picture into the? attachment window, and before clicking the ADD button, click on the picture in the preview box and Ctl+C save it to your clipboard, then go ahead and push ADD button, which should return you to the text area. Once there, find a place for the picture and click on that space, then Ctrl+V paste it there. Supposedly the GROUPS.io resizes it for the email delivery.
On the email delivery pictures, is anyone having issues that the pictures are too large??? If so we can request that members resize them down to 640 X 480, which still leaves the attachment version full size for closer examination if needed.

Geo



From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Uranium Ore , Depleted Uranium, Natural Uranium (Unat) Compared

Geo
Good topic.
Some? radioactive? ores are naturally link to certain elements.
Granite contains small amounts of Fe which can be measured by Si pin.
Here? is pic of my local granite showing Fe peaks

Taray



 

OK. I'm trying to make notes of the exciter source when the scan is XRF and note "Gamma Scan" when the scan is of only internal radiation from the subject material.?

Obviously radioactive decay leads to auto-XRF in many cases but this?
is of the same atom, since the electrically charged decay particle and subsequent photons must pass through the electron shells of that atom as it exits.
?One of our interests is the probability of accidental
XRF being excited in a different atom.

Geo



----- Original Message -----
From: taray singh via groups.io <sukhjez@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 11:08:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [XRF] Uranium Ore , Depleted Uranium, Natural Uranium (Unat) Compared


Geo
The spectrum was done with external exciter Am241
Yes I post replies when there are attachments via group site
Was not aware of pic sizing issues at?the receiving end?
Ok will check if out
Taray




On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 11:39 PM, GEOelectronics@... wrote:

Good scan on the granite. Was this excited (XRF)? ?or only internal (Gamma Spectrum Analysis) mode?

Some of us have a particular interest in the Gamma Spec mode (no exciter, just the Si-PIN sensor) for different reasons and soon there will be a TOPIC to gather all those type reports and comments into a theme,

In that same thought, we constantly fight Cosmic Ray Muon excitation of? internal XRF in our probe shields.? That's why we uses graded? atomic weight layers, each of a lower Z to shield against those spontaneous characteristic X-Rays.

Note- if you want to insert an attached picture into the text area of a post, it must be done on the Groups.io vs email reply, when you load picture into the? attachment window, and before clicking the ADD button, click on the picture in the preview box and Ctl+C save it to your clipboard, then go ahead and push ADD button, which should return you to the text area. Once there, find a place for the picture and click on that space, then Ctrl+V paste it there. Supposedly the GROUPS.io resizes it for the email delivery.
On the email delivery pictures, is anyone having issues that the pictures are too large??? If so we can request that members resize them down to 640 X 480, which still leaves the attachment version full size for closer examination if needed.

Geo



From: "taray singh via groups.io" <sukhjez@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Uranium Ore , Depleted Uranium, Natural Uranium (Unat) Compared

Geo
Good topic.
Some? radioactive? ores are naturally link to certain elements.
Granite contains small amounts of Fe which can be measured by Si pin.
Here? is pic of my local granite showing Fe peaks

Taray







 

UO2- Intro
Uranium Dioxide is a man made chemical which has been used for centuries
for numerous purposes. In modern times it is made quite pure, that is the uranium atoms have been removed from uranium ore with very little or no carry-over of the uranium decay chain lower daughters or other chemical elements in the rock matrix. In this context "modern times" also predates the discovery of radioactivity, as chemically separating uranium is not unlike other chemical processes, and was formally recognized in the 1700's as an element.

In post WW2 times, the feedstock of uranium for this chemical separation has moved almost exclusively to the depleted uranium (DU) byproduct of the Manhattan Engineer District et.al. since as of 2000, there were 500,000 metric tonnes of DU in storage in USA alone:
?https://web.evs.anl.gov/uranium/pdf/duwm01genlpaper07100r3.pdf

So pretty much by the late 1900's only prewar natural uranium (Unat) and recently made DU uranium in the form of UO2 or UO3 has been widely distributed in the civilian market.

Before we go in to the first sample analysis we should all be aware the term Depleted does not mean devoid of U-235. Technically, ANY deviation from the natural?0.711weight-% (equal to0.72atom-%)?U-235?abundance is either called Depleted or Enriched.

The sample will be first studied by Gamma Spectrum analysis using two high resolution solid state probes, the first is a Si-PIN based Amptek device with a beryllium window for low energy precision. The second is a Cadmium Telluride (CdTe) based probe, visually very similar to the first but having superior higher energy response due to the high-Z materials used in its construction. Resolution and other desirable factors are less in the CdTe than in the Si-PIN so this probe basically gives us fill-in-the-blanks information and direct access to the U-235 185keV Gamma Ray.

High quality NaI(Tl) scintillators will provide a view of certain Gamma Rays above our 400keV solid-state detector limitations.

Geo



 

UO2- Low Energy "Gamma Spectrum Analysis" (no exciter, looking at natural radioactivity of U-238 decay).

Picture is self explanatory, as always comments, correction, questions and discussion welcomed.
Notice how particles are responsible for decay, while the resulting new element's nucleus and electron shells are responsible for the electromagnetic ray signature.
.mca attached.

Geo

DU-CE-38Hr-2-BAK.png


 

UO2- High Energy "Gamma Spectrum Analysis" (no exciter, looking at natural radioactivity of U-238 and now U-235 decay).

Based upon the U-235 being either of natural abundance or depleted to some extent.

Most of the atoms in the sample are U-238 and those won't??"grow" the lower daughters into secular equilibrium for a long, long time. due to the "stopper" of U-234's long half-life.

U-238_Decay_and_Progeny_X-Rays.png





CdTe_CE-DU_High-Energy-Gamma-Scan-3NOV2020--_ROIs_NOTES-24Hr-_C_PUB.png