XRF Wiki
Welcome to the XRF Wiki. This Wiki is a repository of information contributed by members of [email protected]. Members can view and edit the pages. The pages are currently not viewable by the public. The pages below represent a rough overview of the technology and techniques associated with X-Ray Florescence Spectroscopy as well as serving as a place for members to organize the spectra that they have contributed to the forum.?
As a starting point, the pages will be populated by information taken from member posts from the past few years - with references/attribution. Perhaps in time, these pages can be edited by members to make them more complete and less choppy. Members can also edit this page, making the structure of the content more organized.?
Pages can contain information about a particular topic, links to relevant resources (such as manuals, research papers, etc.), links to relevant forum discussions on the topic, book titles, or anything that might be useful.
What follows is very much a work in progress.
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Adding to the Wiki
For those unfamiliar with the Wiki phenomenon, it is basically a user editable encyclopedia. The idea is that there are pages with different articles, which the user can read and also choose to edit if desired. If a piece of information is incorrect, a link outdated, or the presentation choppy or unclear, the user can just click "Edit Page" at the bottom and then fix the mistake. There is also a "Page History," so if you a user were to make a mistake or maliciously destroy a page (which wouldn't happen here) an editor can come along and restore the page to a previous version.?
If you have used MediaWiki (the engine that runs behind the scene of Wikipedia.org) you will be familiar with a certain style of creating an article. There are tags that one uses to change the formatting of the parts of the article. The Wiki on Groups.io uses a different background engine and so the standard MediaWiki syntax does not apply here. Rather, the page is edited using the same tools as one would use to compose a message on the forums. If you are a programmer or someone who likes using the tagged syntax directly, you can access the underlying page source code, be activating the advanced editing toolbar (the icon with three lines on the far right of the basic toolbar) and then clicking on the source code icon <> on the far right of the Advance Editing Toolbar. You will immediately notice that the underlying source code is HTML. Most things can be done just by using the various icons, but advanced features like table can only be implemented by manually writing the source code. (Although there are website available that will generate the source code for you through a graphical interface.)
Here are some useful resources from Groups.io:?
Wiki Guide for Users and Editors
Message Composition Tips and Tricks
Overview of XRF
X-Ray Florescence vs. X-Ray Diffraction
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Hardware
This section describes the hardware used for XRF. We will describe the basic theory of operation of each stage in the processing tool chain and then present different commercial systems that are available as these systems are often integrated together.
[Editor note: General theory needs to be in an independent page separate from specific manufacturer information.
[Editor note - question: Should this be arranged by category, e.g detectors, preamps, etc or by manufacturer with the manufacturers product line on one page. Perhaps it's best to put a list of products with theory but the details of the products on a manufacture page...]
Detectors?- what's available, theory of operation, tradeoffs
Detector Cooling?- keeping detectors cool to avoid thermal noise and keeping the TEC from overheating
Preamps?- theory of operation, brief summary of what out there (and what not to do - such as trying to use a PMT preamp for a SiPIN diode...)
Pulse Processing Theory - high level overview of the stages of going from detector pulse to channel peaks on the computer
Commercial Systems - many commercial systems are integrated so it seems to make sense to present, for example all Amptek products together. [question: are their other affordable integrated systems besides Amptek?]
Amptek XRF System
Activation Sources - what do you use to make the sample fluoresce (that's within the amateur budget and doesn't require special licensing)
Software
- Device Control Software - what do you use to collect the data from the detector system
- XRF Analysis Software - what do you use to analyze the data, especially for quantitative measurements (composition percentages, thin film measurement)
- Free Software Tools
Note: there may be software packages that possess some or all of these characteristics.
Materials Spectra
Metals Spectra
Historic/Archeological Spectra
Reference Materials Spectra
Household Objects Spectra
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Resources
Videos
Articles
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Non-XRF Techniques
Gamma Spectroscopy
Raman Spectroscopy
FTIR - Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy
Atomic Emission Spectroscopy
Inductively Coupled Atomic Emission Spectroscopy
Spark Emission Spectroscopy
Atomic Absorption Spectroscopy
LIBS - Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy
Photoacoustic Spectroscopy
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
Geo
For Am241 exciter xrf,the previous Rap47 within a collimator with exciters in-front setup is not going to work
How is it done now?
Anyway impressive results
Taray
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
12 hours or so into the long term aging test. No noticeable change in calibration at 5.9 keV, temperature stable etc. Heatsink warm to the touch like a puppy.
15 seconds and the peak search function
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
Charles what are you running Si-PIN HV and gain?
Geo
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
George, could you provide the .mca file, please. Thanks.
Charles
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Charles David Young
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
Results set at - 44 C
Am-241
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
Geo
Good on universal plug power settings
One usually overlook the amperage rating.
A right voltage with wrong amperage can be a disaster.
Taray
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taray singh <sukhjez@...>
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
More, better pics.
Actual footprint is 3.5" X 4.5".
Geo
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
Yes it is a universal one. It is important to use this one power supply, it can provide 2 amps, and that capacity is needed during initial turn-on phase of the cooler.
Geo
To: "XRF"
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Re: GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
Geo
Looking good
Like the X-123 Amptek
Much cheaper ?with Geo trademark
Will be anxiously waiting for more display pics
Taray
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taray singh <sukhjez@...>
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GEO-1-2-3 All-in-one low energy Si-PIN Spectrometer.
5V and USB cable to your laptop. Amptek inside. Runs on DPPMCA program.
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Re: [GammaSpectroscopy] Terracotta Floor Tile
Charles,
Attached are some shots of a piece of Indian pottery I had here and a clay pot showing the full energy range and then the zoomed lower end detail.
I see pretty much the same elements
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Re: Xrf meteorite
Looks good Taray. I was surprised when I measured a "stoney" meteorite and still found so much iron + nickel!Geo
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Re: Xrf meteorite
I meant ferromagnetic .
The pic show rock attracted to Nd magnet
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Xrf meteorite
Hi guys
Here I have a meteorite specimen I bought from eBay more than 5 years ago .It was sold as a Zag meteorite which hit Moroccan Sahara in 1998.
Apparently there many episodes of meteorite falls
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taray singh <sukhjez@...>
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Re: [GammaSpectroscopy] Terracotta Floor Tile
The log base is just one of the many options that Theremino offers. I had
not paid much attention to it until you brought it up. The log scale for
energy is nice for me because I tend to be more
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Charles David Young
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Re: [GammaSpectroscopy] Terracotta Floor Tile
Charles,
Interesting Am Au interference, I didn¡¯t know they had gold in there.
I missed your log space in the png as I was looking at your .mca file after looking at Mike¡¯s and Taray¡¯s with
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Dude
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Re: [GammaSpectroscopy] Terracotta Floor Tile
Charles,
Looks good. Note that the Au ¡°peak¡± is really just noise(4 counts). Its good to have the Am and Np tags turned on to save time when doing energy ID¡¯s.
You don¡¯t need to scale up
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Re: Parallel growth of columbite-(Fe) and samarskite-(Y)
I've seen some of your microprobe reports, and they are amazing. If I was still a kid I would be on my way to U of NM right now......but alas, I'll have to be satisfied with the reactor operators
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Re: Parallel growth of columbite-(Fe) and samarskite-(Y)
Yes, that's true, but I'm having fun in the same way, running down Trinitite peaks as reported from some of the best gamma spectroscopists in the world. I don't expect to add anything to their work,
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Re: Parallel growth of columbite-(Fe) and samarskite-(Y)
These types of associations are fairly common; attached are a couple of pictures of columbite associated with monazite - a Nb-Ta oxide intergrown with a REE-Th-phosphate. Pretty easy to tell these
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WILLIAM S Dubyk
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