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X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard

Aziz Musa
 

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Replaced from Rand Kar in France last year approximately 3500 usd.


On Aug 27, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Harish Jadeja write2harish@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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Hello group,
I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard. Where can I get these from and what material is being used - Dacron?.
I would appreciate any information group members can provide.
Thank you,
Harish Jadeja
Ontario, Canada

Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!
 

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On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM


?Raj Hamsa is still active. I recently bought parts from them and had good experience. You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards. Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it. Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>

Byron Jones









I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from
some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa
India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would
recommend them if they are still active. ?

Geoff G
On Aug 27,
2018, at 8:39 AM, Billy Montes bmpmo@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
















?






Ultralightsails.com.?
? They are located in Canada.

Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Harish Jadeja write2harish@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
?









Hello group,

I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard.
Where can I get these from and what material is being used -
Dacron?.

I would appreciate any information group members can
provide.

Thank you,

Harish Jadeja

Ontario, Canada



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!



































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On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM


?Raj Hamsa is still active. I recently bought parts from them and had good experience. You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards. Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it. Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>

Byron Jones









I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from
some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa
India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would
recommend them if they are still active. ?

Geoff G
On Aug 27,
2018, at 8:39 AM, Billy Montes bmpmo@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
















?






Ultralightsails.com.?
? They are located in Canada.

Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Harish Jadeja write2harish@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
?









Hello group,

I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard.
Where can I get these from and what material is being used -
Dacron?.

I would appreciate any information group members can
provide.

Thank you,

Harish Jadeja

Ontario, Canada



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!



































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Billy, Aziz, Geoff and Byron - Thank you for your responses which I greatly appreciate.

Aziz and Geoff - what is the material used for the sails you bought from France and India respectively. ?Is it Dacron or something better and move UV resistant?

Thank you,
Harish Jadeja



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, melanie jones byronmelaniej@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM


?Raj Hamsa is still active. I recently bought parts from them and had good experience. You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards. Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it. Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>

Byron Jones









I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from
some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa
India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would
recommend them if they are still active. ?

Geoff G
On Aug 27,
2018, at 8:39 AM, Billy Montes bmpmo@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
















?






.?
? They are located in Canada.

Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Harish Jadeja write2harish@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
?









Hello group,

I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard.
Where can I get these from and what material is being used -
Dacron?.

I would appreciate any information group members can
provide.

Thank you,

Harish Jadeja

Ontario, Canada



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!



































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Be careful about the Ultralam from India, I have one plane from India that has never flown or been out of the hangar, no sun light, that has delaminated somewhat. RandKar has made no attempt to cover it in warranty and I've been a dealer for them for years.


-----Original Message-----
From: Harish Jadeja write2harish@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft
Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard

?
Billy, Aziz, Geoff and Byron - Thank you for your responses which I greatly appreciate.

Aziz and Geoff - what is the material used for the sails you bought from France and India respectively. ?Is it Dacron or something better and move UV resistant?

Thank you,
Harish Jadeja



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, melanie jones byronmelaniej@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

?

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM


?Raj Hamsa is still active. I recently bought parts from them and had good experience. You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards. Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it. Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>

Byron Jones









I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from
some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa
India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would
recommend them if they are still active. ?

Geoff G
On Aug 27,
2018, at 8:39 AM, Billy Montes bmpmo@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
















?






.?
? They are located in Canada.

Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Harish Jadeja write2harish@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
?









Hello group,

I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard.
Where can I get these from and what material is being used -
Dacron?.

I would appreciate any information group members can
provide.

Thank you,

Harish Jadeja

Ontario, Canada



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!



































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开云体育

Hello,

If I could add my 2 cents worth here…

The fabric often referred to as “Ultralam” on X-Airs is not Ultralam at all. The shiny material on X-Airs is Dimension Polyant 180LL - a simple mylar/dacron laminate made in Germany that has no special properties. It was developed for the windsurfing market in the 1980’s and was relatively cheap.

True Ultralam was made in the the UK by a company (GTS) that has since folded - so the fabric is no longer available. This was a a laminate using Tedlar instead of mylar, which made the cloth virtually UV proof and was rated good for 15 years of sun exposure. This was used extensively on Thrusters in the UK and was certified there for that use. It was an incredibly expensive fabric at the time but represented great value.
There is no similarity between these two fabrics other than a shiny finish.

We’ve seen many problems with X-Air skins made form 180LL. The lamination can fail under loads where the forces are applied unevenly (eg where a line of stitching is not as straight as it should be) which weakens the cloth alarmingly. The mylar outer coating also becomes brittle over time and can crack. For these reasons we refuse to use 180LL in any of the skins we make at Wingtech. Our hard won reputation for good work is too valuable.

We now make X-Air skins only in Dacron. It is hard wearing, comes in a great range of colours and results in really nice looking skins.??

I won’t comment on the quality of skins made by other manufacturers but can say that after 30 years in the industry, our skins for X-Airs, Thrusters & Drifters are as good as you will find anywhere.

Sorry to rant but these things are important to me. I hate the idea of pilots getting skins that are anything less than 100% in quality, workmanship or finish. We’re talking about aviation here… not billy-carts after all.?

Cheers

Alan Daniel
WINGTECH

On 28 Aug 2018, at 7:13 am, John palmettoe@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Be careful about the Ultralam from India, I have one plane from India that has never flown or been out of the hangar, no sun light, that has delaminated somewhat. RandKar has made no attempt to cover it in warranty and I've been a dealer for them for years.


-----Original Message-----
From: Harish Jadeja?write2harish@...?[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard

?
Billy, Aziz, Geoff and Byron - Thank you for your responses which I greatly appreciate.

Aziz and Geoff - what is the material used for the sails you bought from France and India respectively. ?Is it Dacron or something better and move UV resistant?

Thank you,
Harish Jadeja



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, melanie jones?byronmelaniej@...?[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

?

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore?gbgartshore@...?[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard
To:?X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM


?Raj Hamsa is still active. I recently bought parts from them and had good experience. You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards. Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it. Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>

Byron Jones









I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from
some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa
India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would
recommend them if they are still active. ?

Geoff G
On Aug 27,
2018, at 8:39 AM, Billy Montes?bmpmo@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
















?






.?
? They are located in Canada.

Sent
from Yahoo Mail on Android?


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Harish Jadeja?write2harish@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:??
?









Hello group,

I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard.?
Where can I get these from and what material is being used -
Dacron?.??

I would appreciate any information group members can
provide.

Thank you,

Harish Jadeja

Ontario, Canada?



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!



































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We have a client with a complete set of X'Air Standard Skins (BRAND NEW) FOR SALE in UK.
 

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The Ultralam they are using is basically a clear lamination applied to normal Dacron. As mentioned by John, it seems to have a mind of its own and will without warning just peel off. What is worse and I think this happened in Ireland was it trapped moisture underneath and started to rot the fabric.

Alan Daniels ??? is the fabric expert, perhaps you should email him because he is work with nothing but these fabrics are probably 30 years or more


John palmettoe@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 28/08/2018 7:13 AM:
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Be careful about the Ultralam from India, I have one plane from India that has never flown or been out of the hangar, no sun light, that has delaminated somewhat. RandKar has made no attempt to cover it in warranty and I've been a dealer for them for years.


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To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft
Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2018 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard

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Billy, Aziz, Geoff and Byron - Thank you for your responses which I greatly appreciate.

Aziz and Geoff - what is the material used for the sails you bought from France and India respectively. ?Is it Dacron or something better and move UV resistant?

Thank you,
Harish Jadeja



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, melanie jones byronmelaniej@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM


?Raj Hamsa is still active. I recently bought parts from them and had good experience. You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards. Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it. Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>

Byron Jones









I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from
some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa
India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would
recommend them if they are still active. ?

Geoff G
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2018, at 8:39 AM, Billy Montes bmpmo@...
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wrote:
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Hello group,

I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard.
Where can I get these from and what material is being used -
Dacron?.

I would appreciate any information group members can
provide.

Thank you,

Harish Jadeja

Ontario, Canada



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Was getting pricing for Dacron sails from India. ? They were good to work with. ? Ended up selling plane before purchase so can’t comment on ?sail transaction. ??

Geoff G

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Billy, Aziz, Geoff and Byron - Thank you for your responses which I greatly appreciate.

Aziz and Geoff - what is the material used for the sails you bought from France and India respectively. ?Is it Dacron or something better and move UV resistant?

Thank you,
Harish Jadeja



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, melanie jones byronmelaniej@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:
















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On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard

 To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...

 Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM

 

 

 ?Raj Hamsa is still active.  I recently bought parts from them and had good experience.  You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards.  Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it.  Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>



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On Aug 27, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Harish Jadeja write2harish@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:


				
					
					

					

















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Billy, Aziz, Geoff and Byron - Thank you for your responses which I greatly appreciate.

Aziz and Geoff - what is the material used for the sails you bought from France and India respectively. ?Is it Dacron or something better and move UV resistant?

Thank you,
Harish Jadeja



Blue Skies and Tail Winds!!

On Aug 27, 2018, at 11:05 AM, melanie jones byronmelaniej@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:
















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On Mon, 8/27/18, Gartshore gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:



Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Complete Sails for X-Air Standard

 To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...

 Date: Monday, August 27, 2018, 8:01 AM

 

 

 ?Raj Hamsa is still active.  I recently bought parts from them and had good experience.  You have to use international money wires for purchases as they do not take credit cards.  Your local bank can walk you through the process if you are not familiar with it.  Email addresses is: <rajhamsa.in@...>



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       I have heard of issues with Sail fit with them from

 some customers. ? ?I was dealing directly with Raj Hamsa

 India for sail replacement before I sold my X Air H - would

 recommend them if they are still active. ?

 

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       Hello group,

 

 I am looking to replace all the fabric on my Standard. 

 Where can I get these from and what material is being used -

 Dacron?.  

 

 I would appreciate any information group members can

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 Thank you,

 

 Harish Jadeja

 

 Ontario, Canada 

 

 

 

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The price for this brand new set is ?1700 + postage to wherever you are.

				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



			
		
			
				
	

		
			

			
			

			
			
			

				

					


						
							

								
								
							

						
					

					

						
							


						
						 
						
							
							
						
						
					

				

			

			

			

				
The skins available at ?1700 are DACRON..( They cost us ?2200 ) so a bargain for anyone who needs a set.

They are grey with yellow leading edges on the wing skins.


				
				
				
			

			
			

	

	
			

			

				
					

				
				
			

			

				

					

				

			

			
			
			

			


				
	



			
		
	

	
	
	
	


	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	

		
		
		
		
		
	

	
	

		
		
		
		
	



	

		
		
		
		
		
		
	

	

	

		

	

		

			
	
		

			
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