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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
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I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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Ouch! I hate to hear that but thanks, I was getting ready to buy from him I was a little curious when his site showed all these colors of fabric and stock I was disapointed when he said he was out of stock of the ?red, blue, and one other.?
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I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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Yes. He said he has made several with no problem. Mine were crap. Either they were made wrong or my plane is miss shaped. All i know is that when we layed them out with the old ones they were smaller and holes were in the wrong place.?
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
Geoff G
?
I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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Mark. ?
Good to know. Sorry you had a rough experience.?
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Yes. He said he has made several with no problem. Mine were crap. Either they were made wrong or my plane is miss shaped. All i know is that when we layed them out with the old ones they were smaller and holes were in the wrong place.?
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
Geoff G
?
I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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So is there a certian class or drade of nylock nuts i should be looking for?
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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Well took a while and alot of pulling and sweat but other than the new prop im ready to go in the spring
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Mark. ?
Good to know. Sorry you had a rough experience.?
Geoff G
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Yes. He said he has made several with no problem. Mine were crap. Either they were made wrong or my plane is miss shaped. All i know is that when we layed them out with the old ones they were smaller and holes were in the wrong place.?
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2017-01-14 7:53 PM (GMT-04:00) Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
Geoff G
?
I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
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Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
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So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
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I am sorry Mark that you had these problems.
We cannot speak highly enough of Wingtech in Australia who are making
replacement fabric that fits better than original. I believe
they have exported several sets already the US without any issues at all.??
?
Yes. He said he has made several with no problem. Mine
were crap. Either they were made wrong or my plane is miss
shaped. All i know is that when we layed them out with the
old ones they were smaller and holes were in the wrong
place.?
"Support your local bank by an
airplane."
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Date: 2017-01-14 7:53 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
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Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
Geoff G
?
I did get them installed. ? Had to send them
back to get new holes as they were in the wrong
place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to
add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit
at all.
"Support your local
bank by an airplane."
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Date: 2017-01-14 7:24 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
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Mark,
yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the
way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair
installed, and if so were you satisfied withe
the results? Thanks, John
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Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
?
So im installing a new prop on
my jabiru 2200 on my X Air
Hahneman. However I lost the old
nuts for the bolts. I was
wondering what type of nuts I need
to get for replacements is there a
special grade or type?
--
With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
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Michael?
I reviewed the Wingtech site- they don't seem to cover the X Air Hanuman in their listing ? ? Is that the case?
Geoff G
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I am sorry Mark that you had these problems.
We cannot speak highly enough of Wingtech in Australia who are making
replacement fabric that fits better than original. I believe
they have exported several sets already the US without any issues at all.??
?
Yes. He said he has made several with no problem. Mine
were crap. Either they were made wrong or my plane is miss
shaped. All i know is that when we layed them out with the
old ones they were smaller and holes were in the wrong
place.?
"Support your local bank by an
airplane."
?
Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
Geoff G
?
I did get them installed. ? Had to send them
back to get new holes as they were in the wrong
place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to
add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit
at all.
"Support your local
bank by an airplane."
-------- Original message --------
Date: 2017-01-14 7:24 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
Nynuts?
?
Mark,
yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the
way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair
installed, and if so were you satisfied withe
the results? Thanks, John
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To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2017 4:02 pm
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
?
So im installing a new prop on
my jabiru 2200 on my X Air
Hahneman. However I lost the old
nuts for the bolts. I was
wondering what type of nuts I need
to get for replacements is there a
special grade or type?
--
With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
Slovenia +386 3041 6470
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
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Hi Geoff,
It’s true that we don’t yet supply skins for the Hanumans.? If someone sends us an old set we can pattern up from them, but so far we haven’t had any call for these. If anyone has a set, or is thinking of re-skinning, by all means get in touch and we’ll make it happen.
Cheers Alan Daniel WINGTECH
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Michael?
I reviewed the Wingtech site- they don't seem to cover the X Air Hanuman in their listing ? ? Is that the case?
Geoff G ?
I am sorry Mark that you had these problems. We cannot speak highly enough of Wingtech?in Australia who are making replacement fabric that fits better than original. I believe they have exported several sets already the US without?any issues at all.???
?Yes. He said he has made several with no problem. Mine were crap. Either they were made wrong or my plane is miss shaped. All i know is that when we layed them out with the old ones they were smaller and holes were in the wrong place.?
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2017-01-14 7:53 PM (GMT-04:00) Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
Where did you get your sails?Ultralight sails Canada?
Geoff G ?I did get them installed. ? Had to send them back to get new holes as they were in the wrong place and the still were not a good fit. ?Had to add a piece under it. Not happy with the poor fit at all.
"Support your local bank by an airplane."
-------- Original message -------- Date: 2017-01-14 7:24 PM (GMT-04:00) Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
Mark, yes, and they are called nylocks, lol. By the way, did you ever get the sails for the H xair installed, and if so were you satisfied withe the results? Thanks, John
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Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2017 4:02 pm
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Nynuts?
?So im installing a new prop on my jabiru 2200 on my X Air Hahneman. However I lost the old nuts for the bolts. I was wondering what type of nuts I need to get for replacements is there a special grade or type?
--
With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
Slovenia +386 3041 6470
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
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I purchased a X-Air Standard about a year and a half ago. The previous owner had recently replaced the sails with ones he purchased from the Ultralight Store in Hemet CA (). He never mentioned any problems; they appear to fit well; and they look nice. Just thought I would share this information for those looking for a source for sails in the US.
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To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Date: Saturday, January 14, 2017, 7:35 PM
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I am sorry Mark that you had
these problems.
We cannot speak highly enough of Wingtech in Australia
who are making
replacement fabric that fits better than original.
I believe
they have exported several sets already the US
without any issues at all.??
Mark C wannagoflying@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote on 15/01/2017 10:55
AM:
?
Yes. He said he has made several with no
problem. Mine
were crap. Either they were made wrong or my
plane is miss
shaped. All i know is that when we layed them
out with the
old ones they were smaller and holes were in
the wrong
place.?
"Support your
local bank by an
airplane."
-------- Original message --------
From: "Geoffrey gbgartshore@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"
<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
Date: 2017-01-14 7:53 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
Nynuts?
?
Where did you get your sails?Ultralight
sails Canada?
Geoff G
On Jan 14, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Mark C wannagoflying@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
wrote:
?
I did get them installed. ? Had to
send them
back to get new holes as they were in
the wrong
place and the still were not a good
fit. ?Had to
add a piece under it. Not happy with
the poor fit
at all.
"Support your
local
bank by an airplane."
-------- Original message
--------
From: "John palmettoe@...
[X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"
<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
Date: 2017-01-14 7:24 PM
(GMT-04:00)
To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...
Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight
Aircraft
Nynuts?
?
Mark,
yes, and they are called nylocks,
lol. By the
way, did you ever get the sails
for the H xair
installed, and if so were you
satisfied withe
the results? Thanks, John
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To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft
<X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...>
Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2017 4:02 pm
Subject: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft
Nynuts?
?
So im installing a
new prop on
my jabiru 2200 on my X
Air
Hahneman. However I
lost the old
nuts for the bolts. I
was
wondering what type of
nuts I need
to get for
replacements is there a
special grade or
type?
--
With regards, Michael Coates
Company Director X-Air Australia
Gold Coast, Australia.
AU +61 7 5522 0583
USA +1 213 984 1237
Slovenia +386 3041 6470
PIPISTREL AIRCRAFT DEALER OF THE YEAR 2012
Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
mailto:mcoates@...
skype name: xcomavionics
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