On Sep 17, 2020, at 6:06 PM, greg.harmer38@... wrote:

?Hi all, I modified my left side throttle lever,? to allow for more leg room , works a treat ?

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From: William Scully via groups.io

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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: [XAIR] Left side throttle lever modification

To all members : Does anyone have a solution to the low-mounted throttle position on the X-air Hawk.? I have a problem with accidentally? pushing the throttle lever rearward when entering the cockpit, enough to create “slack” in the cable & thereby allowing the carb to go “full power”? Really wish I could eliminate this possibility.
Possibly reverse the action of the throttle movement? ?
ALL possible solutions would be sincerely appreciated? Thank You.
Bill Scully

On 16 Oct 2020, at 20:36, Seamus O'Donnell <etronics@...> wrote:

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how does the carb go to full power when you are pushing the throttle lever rearward? you push forward on the throttle to go to full power??????????

?

----- Original Message -----

From: William Scully via groups.io

To: [email protected]

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: [XAIR] Left side throttle lever modification

To all members : Does anyone have a solution to the low-mounted throttle position on the X-air Hawk.? I have a problem with accidentally? pushing the throttle lever rearward when entering the cockpit, enough to create “slack” in the cable & thereby allowing the carb to go “full power”? Really wish I could eliminate this possibility.
Possibly reverse the action of the throttle movement? ?
ALL possible solutions would be sincerely appreciated? Thank You.
Bill Scully

On Oct 16, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Michael Coates <mcoates@...> wrote:

? You need to mount a throttle stop which will stop the throttle going backwards. This can either be by bolting something to the floor or I have seen a cable like what is used in a bicycle brake cable being attached around the throttle limiting its backward movement but these are pretty crude methods. There are many other ways this can be done which are a bit more professional

William Scully via groups.io wrote on 17/10/2020 5:09 am:

To all members : Does anyone have a solution to the low-mounted throttle position on the X-air Hawk.  I have a problem with accidentally  pushing the throttle lever rearward when entering the cockpit, enough to create “slack” in the cable & thereby allowing the carb to go “full power”  Really wish I could eliminate this possibility. 
Possibly reverse the action of the throttle movement  ?
ALL possible solutions would be sincerely appreciated  Thank You. 
Bill Scully

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Coates

To: [email protected]

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: [XAIR] Left side throttle lever modification

I thought the same thing but it might be that the springs on the carburettor are reversed because a lot of aircraft have their engine set up that if the throttle cable breaks the engine will go to full throttle. A few other aircraft have it set up that if the throttle cable breaks the engine goes to idle.

There are fors and against in each side of the argument, personally I think I would prefer full throttle because it means you can just climb to get up enough altitude to be able to glide to a safe landing whereas at idle you may not be able to reach the nearest safe landing point. There are also other things you could do to try and reduce full throttle power like turning off one of the ignition circuits or even using the choke to try and limit the power output from the engine by making it run rich. As I said there are arguments for both sides of which way is correct

Seamus O'Donnell wrote on 17/10/2020 5:36 am:

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how does the carb go to full power when you are pushing the throttle lever rearward? you push forward on the throttle to go to full power??????????

?

----- Original Message -----

From: William Scully via groups.io

To: [email protected]

Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: [XAIR] Left side throttle lever modification

To all members : Does anyone have a solution to the low-mounted throttle position on the X-air Hawk.? I have a problem with accidentally? pushing the throttle lever rearward when entering the cockpit, enough to create “slack” in the cable & thereby allowing the carb to go “full power”? Really wish I could eliminate this possibility.
Possibly reverse the action of the throttle movement? ?
ALL possible solutions would be sincerely appreciated? Thank You.
Bill Scully

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USA +1 213 984 1237


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On Oct 16, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Bill <billscully_99@...> wrote:

?Thanks - I do Ck for slack in cable (definitely a no fly) but am looking for a more positive fix.?

Carb placement makes it difficult to come up with an easy fix on Jab eng.?

I’ll try contacting the factory- I’m sure It’s not the first time this question has come up. ?

Appreciate the response ?Bill

On Oct 16, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Michael Coates <mcoates@...> wrote:

? You need to mount a throttle stop which will stop the throttle going backwards. This can either be by bolting something to the floor or I have seen a cable like what is used in a bicycle brake cable being attached around the throttle limiting its backward movement but these are pretty crude methods. There are many other ways this can be done which are a bit more professional

William Scully via groups.io wrote on 17/10/2020 5:09 am:

To all members : Does anyone have a solution to the low-mounted throttle position on the X-air Hawk.  I have a problem with accidentally  pushing the throttle lever rearward when entering the cockpit, enough to create “slack” in the cable & thereby allowing the carb to go “full power”  Really wish I could eliminate this possibility. 
Possibly reverse the action of the throttle movement  ?
ALL possible solutions would be sincerely appreciated  Thank You. 
Bill Scully

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With regards,    Michael Coates

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USA +1 213 984 1237


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Winner of the EAA August Raspet Award 2012
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On Oct 20, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> wrote:

?William:

I owned and flew an XAir H for 8 years. ? ?Mine came with throttle stops mounted on the left side and secured to the horizontal door frame (lower). ?See attached photos. ?You can see the pilot side throttle lever with the white plastic stops located fore and aft. ?They are quite simple and worked perfectly for the duration of aircraft ownership. ?The throttle cable can be fine-tuned to get the best idle setting when at the aft stop. ? I assumed this was the standard design for the XAir so puzzled that you don’t have it…? ? ?Could you not order the parts from XAir (unless it is no longer in business?). ? ?

Anyway, I may be misunderstanding your need so if this is off the mark just ignore and my apologies.

Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD

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On Oct 21, 2020, at 1:28 PM, William Scully via groups.io <billscully_99@...> wrote:

?Hi Geof , no U understand the problem perfectly & thank U v much. Stops R one of the suggested fixes obtained from this site. I wasn’t aware that factory stops were an option- I’m in touch with factory now - have a new set of sails & control surfaces on order- I will ask about the stops.?

Thanks again for your response.?

Sincerely ;

?Bill Scully.?

Please keep in touch, as U R the only person I know with yrs of experience with X-air (H) ??

On Oct 20, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> wrote:

?William:

I owned and flew an XAir H for 8 years. ? ?Mine came with throttle stops mounted on the left side and secured to the horizontal door frame (lower). ?See attached photos. ?You can see the pilot side throttle lever with the white plastic stops located fore and aft. ?They are quite simple and worked perfectly for the duration of aircraft ownership. ?The throttle cable can be fine-tuned to get the best idle setting when at the aft stop. ? I assumed this was the standard design for the XAir so puzzled that you don’t have it…? ? ?Could you not order the parts from XAir (unless it is no longer in business?). ? ?

Anyway, I may be misunderstanding your need so if this is off the mark just ignore and my apologies.

Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD

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On Oct 21, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> wrote:

?Hi Bill.?

Hapoy to stay in touch. ?I have over 500 hours on the XAir H so feel pretty comfortable with it. ? Wonderful plane to fly. ? Took it on some long trips (several hundred miles), ?took it up to 8000 ft asl for over water segments (Lake Erie, Georgian Bay) and out of province as well (to Quebec). ?Good with bigger loads and passengers, very docile stall, no bad habits. ? Fantastic visibility for photos, especially Go Pro. ? ?You can check out my You Tube site for some posted XAir flights. ? ?Search Geoff .G YouTube .......

Regards?

Geoff Gartshore

Zenith CH200 GCUD

Waterloo, Ontario?

On Oct 21, 2020, at 1:28 PM, William Scully via groups.io <billscully_99@...> wrote:

?Hi Geof , no U understand the problem perfectly & thank U v much. Stops R one of the suggested fixes obtained from this site. I wasn’t aware that factory stops were an option- I’m in touch with factory now - have a new set of sails & control surfaces on order- I will ask about the stops.?

Thanks again for your response.?

Sincerely ;

?Bill Scully.?

Please keep in touch, as U R the only person I know with yrs of experience with X-air (H) ??

On Oct 20, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> wrote:

?William:

I owned and flew an XAir H for 8 years. ? ?Mine came with throttle stops mounted on the left side and secured to the horizontal door frame (lower). ?See attached photos. ?You can see the pilot side throttle lever with the white plastic stops located fore and aft. ?They are quite simple and worked perfectly for the duration of aircraft ownership. ?The throttle cable can be fine-tuned to get the best idle setting when at the aft stop. ? I assumed this was the standard design for the XAir so puzzled that you don’t have it…? ? ?Could you not order the parts from XAir (unless it is no longer in business?). ? ?

Anyway, I may be misunderstanding your need so if this is off the mark just ignore and my apologies.

Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD

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On Oct 22, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Marlin Jones <mljones@...> wrote:

?I've owned and flown an X-Air Light Sport (H Model) for the last 10 years. Here are a couple of photos of how mine came from the factory showing the throttle stops.

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On Oct 29, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Ian Wilson <ianwilson2@...> wrote:

? Managed to finally get to my plane today and here’s a picture of my standard setup. My Jabiru 2200 will go to full throttle before I hit the forward stop. ?The forward stop just stops me going to afterburner!!

Ian Wilson

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