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What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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I agree with Bernhard. ? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. ? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. ?With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. ? ?The Jabiru is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. ? ?It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. ?The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. ? ?In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it to Tennessee. ? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. ? ?The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. ? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque. ? The dealer network is more numerous in N America. ?
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. ? ? Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario?
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On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
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I agree with Bernhard. ? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. ? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. ?With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. ? ?The Jabiru
is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. ? ?It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. ?The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. ? ?In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option
was to ship it to Tennessee. ? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. ? ?The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. ? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.
? The dealer network is more numerous in N America. ?
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. ? ?
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario?
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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My motor was 2007. ? Don’t recall serial number. ? It had hydraulic lifters . ? ?
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.?
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well. ? Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario?
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On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
I agree with Bernhard. ? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. ? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. ?With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. ? ?The Jabiru
is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. ? ?It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. ?The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. ? ?In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option
was to ship it to Tennessee. ? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. ? ?The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. ? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.
? The dealer network is more numerous in N America. ?
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. ? ?
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario?
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
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My motor was 2007. ? Don’t recall serial number. ? It had hydraulic lifters . ? ?
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.?
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well. ?
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario?
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
I agree with Bernhard. ? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. ? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. ?With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. ? ?The Jabiru
is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. ? ?It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. ?The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. ? ?In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option
was to ship it to Tennessee. ? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. ? ?The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. ? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.
? The dealer network is more numerous in N America. ?
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. ? ?
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario?
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Hi Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct) If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase. If not do not buy it. All required service bulletin updates for the engine should be recorded in the engine maintenance book. Service bulletin info for Jabiru: Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate attached on the engine. ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru. How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins? Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty? Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts? I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number? How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability My motor was 2007. Don’t recall serial number. It had hydraulic lifters . If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info. Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well. Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote: ? What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall? What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters? Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability I agree with Bernhard. My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. The Jabiru is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it to Tennessee. This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque. The dealer network is more numerous in N America. Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote: ?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors? How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200? I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Ok thanks.
It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
What oil filter make and model to use?
What oil grade and viscosity to use?
Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
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Hi
Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
If not do not buy it.
All required service bulletin updates for the engine
should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
attached on the engine.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
My motor was 2007.?? Don’t recall serial number.?? It had hydraulic lifters .
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
I agree with Bernhard.?? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it.?? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir.? With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance.??? The Jabiru is very simple and
straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with.??? It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth.? The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America.??? In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it
to Tennessee.?? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming.??? The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc.?? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.?? The dealer
network is more numerous in N America.
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Hi Oil filter : Rayco Z386 or equivalent. Sparkplug: NGK DR9EA Sparkplug socket: 18mm Oil : Aero Oil W Multigrade 15W-50, or equivalent ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:09:22 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Ok thanks. It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless. I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size? What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying? What oil filter make and model to use? What oil grade and viscosity to use? Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman. ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:04:45 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Hi Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct) If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase. If not do not buy it. All required service bulletin updates for the engine should be recorded in the engine maintenance book. Service bulletin info for Jabiru: Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate attached on the engine. ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru. How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins? Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty? Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts? I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number? How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability My motor was 2007. Don’t recall serial number. It had hydraulic lifters . If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info. Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well. Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote: ? What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall? What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters? Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability I agree with Bernhard. My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. The Jabiru is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it to Tennessee. This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque. The dealer network is more numerous in N America. Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote: ?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors? How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200? I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Spark plug is NGK available at CDN Tire. ? Think 18 mm.?
Recommend annual compression check. ?
NAPA Gold oil filter. ??
Engine oil for Canada weather - 15W50. ?
Caution: ? ?Not aware of any dealer or maintenance network in Canada for Jabiru ? Only dealer left was in Tennessee- no idea if still active. So if you’re not mechanically astute it may be a challenge as no one to farm out the tougher stuff to. If you need parts you’ll have to likely get via Australia ? ?This is why I sold my XAir - Ontario dealer left and Montreal area dealer had retired. ? ? No easy way to get major service done. ? This should be an important consideration in your thinking. ? Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario?
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On Oct 14, 2021, at 10:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
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Ok thanks.
It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
What oil filter make and model to use?
What oil grade and viscosity to use?
Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
Hi
Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
If not do not buy it.
All required service bulletin updates for the engine
should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
attached on the engine.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
My motor was 2007.?? Don’t recall serial number.?? It had hydraulic lifters .
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
I agree with Bernhard.?? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it.?? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir.? With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance.??? The Jabiru is very simple and
straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with.??? It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth.? The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America.??? In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it
to Tennessee.?? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming.??? The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc.?? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.?? The dealer
network is more numerous in N America.
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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I can't seem to find the specific oil filter here in Canada. Any other oil and air filter make and models?
Also, how about aeroshell w100 for motor oil?
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Hi
Oil filter :? Rayco Z386 or equivalent.
Sparkplug: NGK DR9EA
Sparkplug socket: 18mm
Oil : Aero Oil W Multigrade 15W-50, or equivalent
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Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:09:22 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok thanks.
It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
What oil filter make and model to use?
What oil grade and viscosity to use?
Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:04:45 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Hi
Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
If not do not buy it.
All required service bulletin updates for the engine
should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
attached on the engine.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
My motor was 2007.?? Don’t recall serial number.?? It had hydraulic lifters .
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
I agree with Bernhard.?? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it.?? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir.? With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance.??? The Jabiru is very simple and
straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with.??? It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth.? The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America.??? In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it
to Tennessee.?? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming.??? The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc.?? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.?? The dealer
network is more numerous in N America.
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Easy to find. ? ?Oil filter at NAPA or CDN tire. ? Air Filter is K and N. (CDN Tire). ? ?Aero shell oil 15w50 at Aircraft Spruce (Brantford).? Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario?
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On Oct 14, 2021, at 11:02 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
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I can't seem to find the specific oil filter here in Canada. Any other oil and air filter make and models?
Also, how about aeroshell w100 for motor oil?
Hi
Oil filter :? Rayco Z386 or equivalent.
Sparkplug: NGK DR9EA
Sparkplug socket: 18mm
Oil : Aero Oil W Multigrade 15W-50, or equivalent
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Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:09:22 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok thanks.
It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
What oil filter make and model to use?
What oil grade and viscosity to use?
Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:04:45 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Hi
Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
If not do not buy it.
All required service bulletin updates for the engine
should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
attached on the engine.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
My motor was 2007.?? Don’t recall serial number.?? It had hydraulic lifters .
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
I agree with Bernhard.?? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it.?? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir.? With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance.??? The Jabiru is very simple and
straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with.??? It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth.? The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America.??? In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it
to Tennessee.?? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming.??? The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc.?? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.?? The dealer
network is more numerous in N America.
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
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Hi Oil filter which I use is a "Toyota short size " - let me check the correct manufact. number. I have got most of the Jabiru spare parts (hardware) from UK via ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 03:02:16 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability I can't seem to find the specific oil filter here in Canada. Any other oil and air filter make and models? Also, how about aeroshell w100 for motor oil? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:55:54 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Hi Oil filter : Rayco Z386 or equivalent. Sparkplug: NGK DR9EA Sparkplug socket: 18mm Oil : Aero Oil W Multigrade 15W-50, or equivalent ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 02:09:22 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Ok thanks. It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless. I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size? What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying? What oil filter make and model to use? What oil grade and viscosity to use? Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman. ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:04:45 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Hi Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct) If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase. If not do not buy it. All required service bulletin updates for the engine should be recorded in the engine maintenance book. Service bulletin info for Jabiru: Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate attached on the engine. ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru. How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins? Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty? Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts? I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number? How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability My motor was 2007. Don’t recall serial number. It had hydraulic lifters . If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info. Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well. Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote: ? What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall? What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters? Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation? ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability I agree with Bernhard. My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. The Jabiru is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it to Tennessee. This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque. The dealer network is more numerous in N America. Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters. Geoff Gartshore Zenith CH200 GCUD Waterloo, Ontario On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote: ?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors? How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200? I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
|
It seems that Jab power plants in (damp climates) have problems, unlike Rotax. ?The last time I checked a the cylinders unlike Rotax are not Nikasil lined. ?That in my opinion would be a good start. Next the points, replace with an electronic system. Then twin carbs to increase reliability.
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On 15 Oct 2021, at 03:09, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
Ok thanks.
It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
What oil filter make and model to use?
What oil grade and viscosity to use?
Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
Hi
Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
If not do not buy it.
All required service bulletin updates for the engine
should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
attached on the engine.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
My motor was 2007.?? Don’t recall serial number.?? It had hydraulic lifters .
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
________________________________
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
I agree with Bernhard.?? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it.?? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir.? With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance.??? The Jabiru is very simple and
straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with.??? It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth.? The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America.??? In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it
to Tennessee.?? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming.??? The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc.?? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.?? The dealer
network is more numerous in N America.
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
|
It is misunderstanding that twin carbs do increase realibility as in Rotax - it does NOT - this more prone to problems such as if carbs are out sync. Rotax did not put twin carbs in their 4 engie cyl. engine to increase realibility. ----- Upprunalegt skeyti ----- Frá: Brian Ellis via groups.io <bellis2uk@...> Til: [email protected]Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 08:07:45 -0000 (GMT) Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability It seems that Jab power plants in (damp climates) have problems, unlike Rotax. The last time I checked a the cylinders unlike Rotax are not Nikasil lined. That in my opinion would be a good start. Next the points, replace with an electronic system. Then twin carbs to increase reliability.
On 15 Oct 2021, at 03:09, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
Ok thanks.
It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
What oil filter make and model to use?
What oil grade and viscosity to use?
Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:04:45 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Hi
Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
If not do not buy it.
All required service bulletin updates for the engine
should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
attached on the engine.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
My motor was 2007. Don’t recall serial number. It had hydraulic lifters .
If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?
What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
I agree with Bernhard. My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it. I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir. With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance. The Jabiru is very simple and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with. It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth. The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America. In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship it to Tennessee. This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming. The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc. it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque. The dealer network is more numerous in N America.
Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
Geoff Gartshore
Zenith CH200 GCUD
Waterloo, Ontario
On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
|
On a seperate note: it is my understanding that the low lead content in 100 octane aviation fuel tries to dissipate and reduce heat more so than using 91 or 93 octane mogas.
Is this statement correct? My concern aside from the fact that aviation 100 octane low lead is considerably more expensive is that the lead content may in fact increase susceptibility for valve residue and carbon buildup, ultimately equating to improper engine
operation as well as higher temperatures?
Perhaps using a can of seafoam inside the fuel tank of 100 octane low lead or mixing 91 or 93 octane mogas with no ethanol and 100 octane low lead aviation fuel is best?
Also, using some kind of oil detergent additive inside the crankcase about two or three ounces may also help move the oil around in generation 2 and Generation 3 models?
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It is misunderstanding that twin carbs do increase realibility as in Rotax - it does NOT - this more prone to problems such as if carbs are out sync. Rotax did not put twin carbs in their 4 engie cyl. engine to increase realibility.
----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
Frá: Brian Ellis via groups.io <bellis2uk@...>
Til: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 08:07:45 -0000 (GMT)
Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
It seems that Jab power plants in (damp climates) have problems, unlike Rotax.? The last time I checked a the cylinders unlike Rotax are not Nikasil lined.? That in my opinion would be a good start.
Next the points, replace with an electronic system.
Then twin carbs to increase reliability.
> On 15 Oct 2021, at 03:09, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
>
> ?
> Ok thanks.
>
> It also says I have to perform a leak down test every 25hours? It seems excessive, but I'll follow all protocols regardless.
>
> I am trying to find out the spark plug hole diameter? Is it a standard spark plug hole? I think my leak down tester has 10, 12, and 18mm socket threads. Am I ok or do I need some other size?
>
> What else to look for while inspecting the engine before buying?
>
> What oil filter make and model to use?
>
> What oil grade and viscosity to use?
>
> Engine has TT of 137hrs. Off a 2009 x air hanuman.
>
> From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bernhard Svavarsson <bern@...>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:04:45 PM
> To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
>?
> Hi
> Regarding the last question: (if I understand your question correct)
> If used engine (Jabiru) is bought then be sure you have
> the the engine maintenance records included in the purchase.
> If not do not buy it.
> All required service bulletin updates for the engine
> should be recorded in the engine maintenance book.
>
> Service bulletin info for Jabiru:
>
>
> Serial number for the Jabiru engine can be found on plate
> attached on the engine.
>
> ----- Upprunalegt skeyti -----
> Frá: Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...>
> Til: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 01:18:48 -0000 (GMT)
> Efni: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
>
> Ok so let's say, hypothetically my motor has not had service bulletin updates issued by Jabiru.
>
> How do I get these updates installed on my motor, based off of technical service bulletins?
>
> Is it like a car dealership - they issue a recall and I schedule my car to go in for service, all for free under warranty?
>
> Do you know of any AME within the GTA who knows Jabiru 2200 motors or know of anyone in Ontario with Jabiru sales and service and parts?
>
> I'm sure during your time with your Jabiru, did they give any technical service bulletins with your motor and serial number?
>
> How are Jabiru owners aware of any technical service bulletins, especially if they buy a used motor?
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:31:00 PM
> To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
>
> My motor was 2007.?? Don’t recall serial number.?? It had hydraulic lifters .
>
> If you Google Jabiru engines you should be able to get more info.
>
> Maintain and operate following Jabiru engine requirements and it should serve you well.
>
> Geoff Gartshore
> Zenith CH200 GCUD
> Waterloo, Ontario
>
> On Oct 14, 2021, at 8:09 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
>
> ?
> What year was your jabiru motor? And what was the serial number, if you recall?
>
> What would you do if my serial number motor does not have the hydraulic lifters?
>
> Lastly, what are you specifically referring to when you mentioned proper maintenance and operation?
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Geoffrey Gartshore <geoff.gartshore@...>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:33:49 PM
> To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XAIR] Jabiru 2200 reliability
>
> I agree with Bernhard.?? My Jabiru 2200 worked just fine for the 8 years I had it.?? I put at least 500 hours on it and it had lots of life when I sold my XAir.? With proper operation and maintenance it should go the distance.??? The Jabiru is very simple
and straightforward, with only a single carb to deal with.??? It runs at lower rpm’s, and is very smooth.? The only issue with it is the lack of a strong dealer network in North America.??? In 2017 when I sold the plane the only overhaul option was to ship
it to Tennessee.?? This was one of the reasons I decided to sell and go with Lycoming.??? The Rotax is a good engine but more complicated, with dual carbs that must be tuned, etc.?? it also runs at much higher rpm’s, which provides the good torque.?? The dealer
network is more numerous in N America.
>
> Check the serial number in the Jabiru in question - you want the version with hydraulic lifters.
>
> Geoff Gartshore
> Zenith CH200 GCUD
> Waterloo, Ontario
>
> On Oct 14, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Justin Gregoris <jgregoris789@...> wrote:
>
> ?What serial numbers of these Jabiru 2200 motors are the more problematic motors?
>
> How do I know which serial numbers belong to which generation of the jabiru 2200?
>
> I am assuming finding out the serial number of the motor will cross reference to what generation of motor it is - subsequently enabling me to find out what parts and service bulletins went out to maintain reliability?
>
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Geoffrey Gartshore