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Re: Hi. Thank you for letting me into your group
I have created a photo file "Brake on D9 coffin top", with two photos.? Remove the top right hand drawer of your treadle cabinet to view the brake...you might have one that? is just out of position or stuck.? The wooden brake is free to swing upon the round headed screw.
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MY SERISL On Dec 9, 2019 8:48 AM, JohnM <jmh54738@...> wrote: ny serial number is? no 2999567 w9. It's folds down in a table.? Could you send me a picture of the brakePaddydog, enjoy your D9, a great machine to use. ?Maybe I can rig something to replace it ? Thank you.? Your unit sounds great |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhen I introduced myself, I didn't tell you where I am from. My name is belinda and I am in california My mom sewed on a treddle singer And as a? teen I wasn't interested in it ? But now in my 70s I want to learn.? I am so glad I found you!! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone |
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Hi & Welcome Paddydog; The only W&W?machines?I am aware of with this Brake is the later D-9 models in drop head cabinets.? The drophead cabinets have the large bandwheel inside the leg of the cabinet while those with a covered top have it?outside the leg. I have never seen a cabinet with the outside wheel which had the brake. Do tell us more about your machine.? Miller/TN |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI was looking for a treddle with a good? table. I finally found my ww9.? Now I need to learn all the things my mom never got the time to show me. I saw a post about a brake on the wheel to prevent it from going backwards. Do you know about this? I'd like to get one.? ?Thanks for having me. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone |
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Hi We could if you wanted start a google account for you or others to manage, this would give us 16gig or free storage for documents and pictures, we would have to experiment with people sharing a photo so we can copy it to an album to manage them per machine / user again there is need for a discussion and trial before we use this slightly awkward method. I am uncertain if it will be a usable solution.?? Another test for you I just added some text to the bottom right you need to get rid of the action sidebar if it is there and move the mouse over the image and the txt should be in the bottom left. Extra chat fee free to ignore The ELSA machine info is here? scroll down past the WW8 machine down to the ELSA, it takes the longer needle so have to trap an ordinary shorter needle and leave a gap at the top. Miller I would like to have a chat with you about using part of a needle as a spacer for the WW and ELSA machines I did spend some time fining a modern needle for a Jones machine,,,,, anyway there is a bit to chat about if you have time; it may help people in the future. The ELSA need the long scarf on the right as you may guess. I recently figured out why some needles have a small scarf on the hook side for clearance. all the best John? On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 04:05, Miller Fulks <miller@...> wrote:
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Hi? John; The picture came through fine, nice looking machine. I am not familiar with the Elsa name, is this an English made machine? Miller/TN On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 1:45 PM John Harrison <jdhtyler@...> wrote:
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Wave Lesley and I might see you across the Bristol Channel. I did not even haggle the ?50 cost for the machine, its condition is stunning so it must have been bust a long time and left in a cupboard.? https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jv4VXPkzn5yNzk7s6 ? all the best John |
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Thanks for welcoming me to the group! My husband & I live in Cornwall PA. We collect old sewing machines - treadles, handcranks, old electrics - and finally acquired a Wheeler & Wilson #9 treadle in working condition, with extra bobbins & a few attachments, and I'm hoping to learn more about it. I'll post pix when I can unearth it from the pile of my husband's bubble wrap stash (eBay packaging)!
Kathy R |
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On Nov 28, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Miller Fulks <miller@...> wrote: Hi & welcome?to you? both; I got into lod sewing machines? also through my Wife's quilting, but not near so early in life. In fact I was 67 years old &?retired when I started.? I too became infatuated with the W&W as Allen Wilson had invented?both the rotary hook & the four motion feed.? I believe my current count of W&W? machines stands at 14, though some of them are the machines only without cabinet or case. My oldest is an 1860? 31 curved needle machine only. Have an 1870 #3 in half case treadle. Have 2 handcranks, a #9 & a D-9 with different types of crank assemblies.. All of these are pictured in our photo library. Additional treadles are a #8, #9 & a D-9 drop head. Also have one?old D-9 electric conversion & one Singer 9W7.? Miller/TN |
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Re: Pollack & Schmidt la silencieuuse won't pick up the lower thread
The upper tension on all family machines, except for a few very early ones, is applied by a wheel or pulley?tension rather than disc tension. On a disc ension, such as Singer, the thread is pulled down between the discs which grip the thread. On the wheel tension the thread cannot pull down inside as the wheel?is constructed to be solid. The wheel is sandwiched between two felt washers which act as brake pads to control the tension. If that turn of thread is not taken around the wheel then it will not be rotated & the thread will simply slide along the wheel with no tension applied.The wheel must be rotated by the thread to apply the tension.? If you look closely at the hook you will see a point in its outer edge where its diameter is reduced. When the hook picks the upper thread from the needle & brings it around the hook it is caught & held by the brush until that reduced diameter area is encountered, when it is released. The brush should be set just tight enough against the hook to hold the thread until that point is reached. It should not be?pressed down any tighter than just enough to hold the thread. This will normally be just firm against the hook without compression of the bristles. This of course is set in an area where the hook is of its full diameter.? There actually is no adjustment on the lower thread tension, it is all dependant on the brush, which is not truly adjustable. With it functioning correctly the upper thread should?be picked up regardless if its tension. You will have to begin making a seam in order to set the upper thread's tension to balance the stitch. You? can pull?on the thread by hand in order to ensure there is some tension, but not overly tight. Miller/TN? |
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Re: Pollack & Schmidt la silencieuuse won't pick up the lower thread
thank you Miller, yesterday I? was so sleepy: I read instructions many times,? always one learns something.? ?sometime? one produces new doubts. for example I learned the number of needles, I didn't knew it, so now I have three 18, huge, and the original of the machine, perhaps 12,( difficult for me to read). Really? I? have a wheeler wilson; but it is not here.? broken needle, and no treadle
My imrression is that they are nearly identical? ?perhaps the pollack want the needle a little lower However I am not sure I understood you about the tension? ?you write? about rotation of the upper tension. you want say during the sewing it must rotate?? if it is a little oxidate it does not turn? and the machine can't sew?? another question about the little brush. if it is a little worn?? and, at least when one pick up the lower thread, or try to pick it, how must be the tension?? arrivederci, grazie |
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Re: Introduction
Hi & welcome?to you? both; I got into lod sewing machines? also through my Wife's quilting, but not near so early in life. In fact I was 67 years old &?retired when I started.? I too became infatuated with the W&W as Allen Wilson had invented?both the rotary hook & the four motion feed.? I believe my current count of W&W? machines stands at 14, though some of them are the machines only without cabinet or case. My oldest is an 1860? 31 curved needle machine only. Have an 1870 #3 in half case treadle. Have 2 handcranks, a #9 & a D-9 with different types of crank assemblies.. All of these are pictured in our photo library. Additional treadles are a #8, #9 & a D-9 drop head. Also have one?old D-9 electric conversion & one Singer 9W7.? Miller/TN |
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Hi, all. My name is Marty and I am delighted, at Miller's suggestion, to join this group of Wheeler and Wilson sewing machine enthousiasts. I live in South Louisiana and my wife has been quilting since junior high. About 20 years ago, as a result of visiting numerous quilt shops, I became a vintage sewing machine collector. My wife has put up with this hobby, provided I assist her with quilting, which I have been happy to do. It wasn't long after I started my new collection that? I became fascinated with the early technological superiority of the rotating hook of the various Wheeler and Wilson sewing machines. Today I have about 10 of these machines, including a no. 8 hand crank in wooden carrying case, 2 no. 9 hand cranks in wooden carrying cases, a no. 9 short arm hand crank, 2 or 3 electrified no. 9s, a no. 12 industrial, a no. 15 industrial, 2 or 3 Singer 9Ws, and a Jones Spool W&W clone.? ? ?After I have become more familiar with this group and its photo archives, I will dig out some of my W&W machines and try to post pictures and serial numbers. If any members are particularly interested in any of the above-mentioned? machines, let me know and I will try to answer the question or post a responsive photo. I do not have many W&W attachments, but I do have a metal W&W attachment box and a fancy wooden W&W needle tube. Regards, Marty |
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Re: Pollack & Schmidt la silencieuuse won't pick up the lower thread
Hi;? Here are a couple of copies of manuals for the W&W curved needle machines from different?points in time. Both show how to set the needle & place the bobbin in the correct orientation & to thread the machine. Do note the way the upper tension?works on a W&W it is an absolute necessity to take that turn around the tension wheel. The tensin wheel must rotate to provide the upper tension. ? ? I am not familiar with your German-made machine but if it is indeed from around 1880? it may be more like the needlebar manual whether low or high bed. The basics of both are the same, with some minor differences from different time frames. The two-hole (Fig 8) insert is the braiding foot, the standard insert has only one hole. From memory,?I believe the bottom of the braiding foot will work for ordinary seaming without the braid.? Hopefully, your machine is a near enough?copy these manuals will be useful to you. If you have further questions feel free to ask.? Miller/TN |
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Pollack & Schmidt la silencieuuse won't pick up the lower thread
do you know this machine.?
it seems it is a german, european, clone of a wheeler and wilson 3 that is very rare in italy.? circa 1880, 82, it seems to me. I found that in a flea market, no instructions, although amazon(!) sell them, some years ago.? However, it seems nearly identical to the ww #3.? I want see if someone can help me.? ?my problem is that:? this lady won't pickup the lower thread, It seems complete, no broken or missing parts, and I searched to clean it from its old dirtyness in best way. It runs freely ? ?Yesterday I saw that someone here said that the needle might be too low. I looked at my needle, and in effest only a little piece, 2, 3mm. of its 'head'came out from the needle holder and I picked up that circa 3 mm: I tried many times, 2,5 3, 3,5, 4 mm. nothing!? but only the first time the upper thread was nearly up.. all entangled into the bobbin case Many times both thread? entangle, sometime the upper one went out all alone from the hole.? the shape of the needle-hole is identical than ww3 one it has the shape of number 8. (why this curious shape?) the bobbin case is very similar to that of ww 3.... the tension seems intactis.Is the tension very important for picking up the upper thread? Who put my needle so low, when and why.? it seemed in that position from many? many years. tonight I have only a photo.? I search to post it, I wait for your thoughts |
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On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Kathy Liv via Groups.Io <kmliving@...> wrote:
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