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Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry


Ruari McLennan
 

Congratulations! I think you're just too used to modern bikes. It's part of the charm. The W's engine design is like that of the old Triumphs etc., and the counterbalancer is designed only to kick in after about 4500 RPM. My mirrors shake between 2500-3500 revs. and I feel a handlebar buzz. But, you should check the carb synchronization, it could be out a bit - this causes some increased vibration. Other thoughts include tires, wheel trueness, tire air pressure etc.

Ruari McLennan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry" <klmyself@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Vibration


Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry



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john gary simpson
 

Does the engine show any signs of havin been disassembled?

Larry wrote:
Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry



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--- In W650riders@..., john gary simpson <eustisgary@...>
wrote:

Does the engine show any signs of havin been disassembled?

Larry <klmyself@...> wrote: Hi. I just got a pristine (3300
miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry






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No sign of anything having been disassembled. Not burred screw or
bolt heads, not a scratch on any part anywhere. Tires show their 3300
miles, and that's about it. Perhaps like the old Triumphs I just got
one with balance factor not as good as it could be.
Larry


 

I think that carb sync is about the only thing I haven't gone over.
It runs so smooth, and wild idle down to 500 rpm smoothly without
missing a beat, so I guessed it was pretty close. I may do that check
anyway. Won't take but a minute.

Thanks,
Larry






--- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:

Congratulations! I think you're just too used to modern bikes.
It's part
of the charm. The W's engine design is like that of the old
Triumphs etc.,
and the counterbalancer is designed only to kick in after about 4500
RPM.
My mirrors shake between 2500-3500 revs. and I feel a handlebar
buzz. But,
you should check the carb synchronization, it could be out a bit - this
causes some increased vibration. Other thoughts include tires, wheel
trueness, tire air pressure etc.

Ruari McLennan


----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry" <klmyself@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Vibration


Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry



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john gary simpson
 

I think you're right on target.

Larry wrote:
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wrote:
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> Does the engine show any signs of havin been disassembled?
>
> Larry .> wrote: Hi. I just got a pristine (3300
miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
> new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
> surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
> counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
> vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
> peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
> I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
> perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
> at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
> modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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No sign of anything having been disassembled. Not burred screw or
bolt heads, not a scratch on any part anywhere. Tires show their 3300
miles, and that's about it. Perhaps like the old Triumphs I just got
one with balance factor not as good as it could be.
Larry



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Ray Nielsen
 

--- In W650riders@..., "Larry" <klmyself@...> wrote:

Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until
a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of
use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry
Watch the carburetors at an idle and you'll see the need to
periodically synchronize them. The rubber boots move quite a bit fore
and aft and that seems to knock them out of syncronization.

I could feel an increase in vibration as the miles accumulated, so did
the syncronization every oil change. It ALWAYS reduced the vibration
substantially.

Just my two bits worth.

Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and sitting out the rain today.


 

Balancing the carbs worked wonders for mine

Larry wrote:
Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry




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Well, I found a good answer. Yesterday I made a 5/8" x 5" steel slug
for each handlebar. I cut a groove in each end of the slugs for an O
ring (11/16" OD x 1/2" ID x 3/32" thick), put a little silicone seal
on each end and inserted in the handlebar until it was recessed 1/4"
in the grip area. Sealed the end good with silicon seal, and presto!
About 2/3rds of the vibration is gone. Just a enough low frequency
vibe to let you know there's a vertical twin in there. Much better
for someone with carpal tunnel problems.

Larry

--- In W650riders@..., "Larry" <klmyself@...> wrote:

Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry


john gary simpson
 

A section of heavy spring works well too.

Larry wrote:
Well, I found a good answer. Yesterday I made a 5/8" x 5" steel slug
for each handlebar. I cut a groove in each end of the slugs for an O
ring (11/16" OD x 1/2" ID x 3/32" thick), put a little silicone seal
on each end and inserted in the handlebar until it was recessed 1/4"
in the grip area. Sealed the end good with silicon seal, and presto!
About 2/3rds of the vibration is gone. Just a enough low frequency
vibe to let you know there's a vertical twin in there. Much better
for someone with carpal tunnel problems.

Larry

--- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" .> wrote:
>
> Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
> new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
> surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
> counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
> vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
> peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
> I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
> perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
> at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
> modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
>
> Larry
>



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rick j.
 

thanks for this tip, ray-- i have 2 w650's, and the one with 18,000
miles vibrates way more than the one with 10,000 miles. i never
thought it might need a carb synchronization, but i will give it a
shot and see if it tames it down a bit. rick

















--- In W650riders@..., "Ray Nielsen" <rnielse1@...> wrote:

--- In W650riders@..., "Larry" <klmyself@> wrote:

Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm
not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds
until
a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500
rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign
of
use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.

Larry
Watch the carburetors at an idle and you'll see the need to
periodically synchronize them. The rubber boots move quite a bit
fore
and aft and that seems to knock them out of syncronization.

I could feel an increase in vibration as the miles accumulated, so
did
the syncronization every oil change. It ALWAYS reduced the
vibration
substantially.

Just my two bits worth.

Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and sitting out the rain today.