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Derustification II: Rust Never Sleeps.


 
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Underside of the frame with the center stand mounts.?



Probably 90% of that rust was hidden under the paint and some of the paint was hidden under grime. This is probably not a part of the bike that gets a frequent thorough wash and wax job. The paint is subjected to the elements and this part of the bike gets some pretty harsh elements. Road grit that's like sandblasting, road salt, dust, high temperature because it's right up next to the engine, etc. Plenty of crannies where water can sit a while too.?

Interesting thing on the frame I'd never noticed before, drain holes for those frame tubes.?



I figure there's going to be rust inside the tube around those holes. It's going to be difficult to get liquid rust converter up in there and I'm not sure how far inside spray can deruster is going to get either. It'd be easy using a rotisserie but I don't have one of those, and I'm not crazy about turning the whole bike upside down, but my tired brain at the moment has limited ability to ponder the situation.?

I am encouraged by the work I've done so far. I zapped a lot of small rust spots and put a new coat of paint on the back end of the frame. Fortunately the chrome on the shocks is still in good shape and only needed a good cleaning and polishing to get that to look new. The upper part of the shocks had weary paint so I redid them.?





I'm also planning on getting all the clear coat off the engine casings and clean polish them to eliminate the corrosion. Unfortunately the camshaft tube chrome has long since worn off and being immensely difficult to replace, if I can't get the steel polished so it look I might paint it black. I'm thinking that's what Triumph or BSA would have done to save a few pence on the chrome plating costs.?

This is all a lot easier with the mufflers off so you can get to those parts of the frame that are hidden behind


 

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Big job(s), good work!

Ruari


On May 11, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Tom Herling <thomasjherling@...> wrote:

?Underside of the frame with the center stand mounts.?

AEFB0A4B-F0A6-4FD2-9C44-EBD092AF82D8.jpeg

Probably 90% of that rust was hidden under the paint and some of the paint was hidden under grime. This is probably not a part of the bike that gets a frequent thorough wash and wax job. The paint is subjected to the elements and this part of the bike gets some pretty harsh elements. Road grit that's like sandblasting, road salt, dust, high temperature because it's right up next to the engine, etc. Plenty of crannies where water can sit a while too.?

Interesting thing on the frame I'd never noticed before, drain holes for those frame tubes.?

8DD7E655-CC24-4E9C-BB03-9F9E56236E6A.jpeg

I figure there's going to be rust inside the tube around those holes. It's going to be difficult to get liquid rust converter up in there and I'm not sure how far inside spray can deruster is going to get either. It'd be easy using a rotisserie but I don't have one of those, and I'm not crazy about turning the whole bike upside down, but my tired brain at the moment has limited ability to ponder the situation.?

I am encouraged by the work I've done so far. I zapped a lot of small rust spots and put a new coat of paint on the back end of the frame. Fortunately the chrome on the shocks is still in good shape and only needed a good cleaning and polishing to get that to look new. The upper part of the shocks had weary paint so I redid them.?

82214FCD-F468-4B33-ABB1-20B93B64898C.jpeg

3F272E66-6050-48D2-8646-FBD9CA0A5FC0.jpeg

I'm also planning on getting all the clear coat off the engine casings and clean polish them to eliminate the corrosion. Unfortunately the camshaft tube chrome has long since worn off and being immensely difficult to replace, if I can't get the steel polished so it look I might paint it black. I'm thinking that's what Triumph or BSA would have done to save a few pence on the chrome plating costs.?

This is all a lot easier with the mufflers off so you can get to those parts of the frame that are hidden behind?


 

Nice work!


On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ruari McLennan <ruari.mclennan@...> wrote:
Big job(s), good work!

Ruari


On May 11, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Tom Herling <thomasjherling@...> wrote:

?Underside of the frame with the center stand mounts.?

AEFB0A4B-F0A6-4FD2-9C44-EBD092AF82D8.jpeg

Probably 90% of that rust was hidden under the paint and some of the paint was hidden under grime. This is probably not a part of the bike that gets a frequent thorough wash and wax job. The paint is subjected to the elements and this part of the bike gets some pretty harsh elements. Road grit that's like sandblasting, road salt, dust, high temperature because it's right up next to the engine, etc. Plenty of crannies where water can sit a while too.?

Interesting thing on the frame I'd never noticed before, drain holes for those frame tubes.?

8DD7E655-CC24-4E9C-BB03-9F9E56236E6A.jpeg

I figure there's going to be rust inside the tube around those holes. It's going to be difficult to get liquid rust converter up in there and I'm not sure how far inside spray can deruster is going to get either. It'd be easy using a rotisserie but I don't have one of those, and I'm not crazy about turning the whole bike upside down, but my tired brain at the moment has limited ability to ponder the situation.?

I am encouraged by the work I've done so far. I zapped a lot of small rust spots and put a new coat of paint on the back end of the frame. Fortunately the chrome on the shocks is still in good shape and only needed a good cleaning and polishing to get that to look new. The upper part of the shocks had weary paint so I redid them.?

82214FCD-F468-4B33-ABB1-20B93B64898C.jpeg

3F272E66-6050-48D2-8646-FBD9CA0A5FC0.jpeg

I'm also planning on getting all the clear coat off the engine casings and clean polish them to eliminate the corrosion. Unfortunately the camshaft tube chrome has long since worn off and being immensely difficult to replace, if I can't get the steel polished so it look I might paint it black. I'm thinking that's what Triumph or BSA would have done to save a few pence on the chrome plating costs.?

This is all a lot easier with the mufflers off so you can get to those parts of the frame that are hidden behind?


 

Crazy to think these are old enough to have rust issue's! I guess its about where you live, you cold country dwellers have to contend with salted roads and slush, here in the Tropic's, the humidity play's Hell with all the shiny bits I've had my 2000 for 22 years now and always thought of the W as a Classic, well worth the care. Here's me and my W when it was New (Me, not so much)
Alohapaul

On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 12:45:55 AM HST, Sal Emma <bikewriter@...> wrote:


Nice work!


On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ruari McLennan <ruari.mclennan@...> wrote:
Big job(s), good work!

Ruari




 

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It helps to be a little older.? Seems I park my W out of the sun and rain these days. I didn't with my W2 and at 30 years it showed. First photo is W2 @ 30 years. Second photo is W2 at 55 years old. Third is the W at 22 years.



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Paul via groups.io" <baillieandsons@...>
Date: 5/12/22 4:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [W650Riders] Derustification II: Rust Never Sleeps.

Crazy to think these are old enough to have rust issue's! I guess its about where you live, you cold country dwellers have to contend with salted roads and slush, here in the Tropic's, the humidity play's Hell with all the shiny bits I've had my 2000 for 22 years now and always thought of the W as a Classic, well worth the care. Here's me and my W when it was New (Me, not so much)
Alohapaul

On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 12:45:55 AM HST, Sal Emma <bikewriter@...> wrote:


Nice work!

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ruari McLennan <ruari.mclennan@...> wrote:
Big job(s), good work!

Ruari




 

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So if you just wait 33 more years, the W will look like your W2! Such a gorgeous bike, in all 3 pictures.

Jake in Argyle

On 5/12/2022 3:53 PM, PatH via groups.io wrote:

It helps to be a little older.? Seems I park my W out of the sun and rain these days. I didn't with my W2 and at 30 years it showed. First photo is W2 @ 30 years. Second photo is W2 at 55 years old. Third is the W at 22 years.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Paul via groups.io" <baillieandsons@...>
Date: 5/12/22 4:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [W650Riders] Derustification II: Rust Never Sleeps.

Crazy to think these are old enough to have rust issue's! I guess its about where you live, you cold country dwellers have to contend with salted roads and slush, here in the Tropic's, the humidity play's Hell with all the shiny bits I've had my 2000 for 22 years now and always thought of the W as a Classic, well worth the care. Here's me and my W when it was New (Me, not so much)
Alohapaul

On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 12:45:55 AM HST, Sal Emma <bikewriter@...> wrote:


Nice work!

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ruari McLennan <ruari.mclennan@...> wrote:
Big job(s), good work!

Ruari





 

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Yep, that's what AlohaPaul looks like, I remember. Are you saying you look different now?

On 5/12/2022 3:40 PM, Paul via groups.io wrote:

Crazy to think these are old enough to have rust issue's! I guess its about where you live, you cold country dwellers have to contend with salted roads and slush, here in the Tropic's, the humidity play's Hell with all the shiny bits I've had my 2000 for 22 years now and always thought of the W as a Classic, well worth the care. Here's me and my W when it was New (Me, not so much)
Alohapaul

On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 12:45:55 AM HST, Sal Emma <bikewriter@...> wrote:


Nice work!

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ruari McLennan <ruari.mclennan@...> wrote:
Big job(s), good work!

Ruari





 

Only about 22 years older! lost a little weight Here's some pictures of my 2001 that I bought from Ed Simmer heading South down the West coast in 2018
Alohapaul

On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 12:11:42 PM HST, Captain Jake <jake@...> wrote:


Yep, that's what AlohaPaul looks like, I remember. Are you saying you look different now?

On 5/12/2022 3:40 PM, Paul via groups.io wrote:
Crazy to think these are old enough to have rust issue's! I guess its about where you live, you cold country dwellers have to contend with salted roads and slush, here in the Tropic's, the humidity play's Hell with all the shiny bits I've had my 2000 for 22 years now and always thought of the W as a Classic, well worth the care. Here's me and my W when it was New (Me, not so much)
Alohapaul

On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 12:45:55 AM HST, Sal Emma <bikewriter@...> wrote:


Nice work!

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:43 PM Ruari McLennan <ruari.mclennan@...> wrote:

Big job(s), good work!

Ruari





 

Hi w650 riders
On the 2005 machine that I have, there have been made a few improvements.
In the front forks. There have been put top spacers that are one inch longer than the original. Known as poor man,s progressive springs. Bit stiffer suspension that stops a dive on bumps or bottoming. Made them myself. Put grease nipples on the swingarm?at the center and foot brake axel on the frame. Rather than the standard size tires, I use 140x80x18 rear and 110x90x19 front. they are slightly larger. Replaced the airbox with pods and exhaust with imported Posh exhausts from web bike Japan. Carbs have to be slightly up jetted and needles given a shim, a tiny holed washer will do. Put a toggle?switch on the front light side holder to be able to manually switch on and off the front lights. Put a smear of copper grease on all nuts and bolts and add a washer if none originally. Always kick it over to start.
Safe riding,? Peter


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