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Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again. So where
is the upper limit?
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Hi Nige, on my bike there are no visible marks at the front edge of the sight window, you have to swing the footpeg out of the way and look at the rear side of it. Here's an attached diagram from my manual showing marks at each edge, which does not reflect the reality...
I kick identical blocks (melamine cupboard shelves, about 5/8"), under each tire in the garage after putting it on the centrestand to keep it level.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: [W650riders] Oil level... Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again. So where
is the upper limit?
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Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If it is overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
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Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high level? my
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fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again. So where
is the upper limit?
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I checked the bike off the stand, with the missus sitting on it, and the oil sight window is full, although I am pretty certain that the oil is only just over the top of the sight window. --- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If it is
overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the
airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again. So where
is the upper limit?
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I don't think it is required to have a rider on. I suppose that's OK if it sags the same amount front and rear...
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I checked the bike off the stand, with the missus sitting on it, and
the oil sight window is full, although I am pretty certain that the
oil is only just over the top of the sight window.
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wrote:
Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If it is
overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the
airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again. So where
is the upper limit?
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Oops...LOL...yeah your right I checked the chain with her sitting on it, with her moaning, and checked the oil with her holding one side of the bike, with her moaning. But yeah the bike was off the stand, on our garage floor and upright. it is a bit over so I am going to try and get some out using a syringe and tubing. --- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
I don't think it is required to have a rider on. I suppose that's OK
if it sags the same amount front and rear...
I checked the bike off the stand, with the missus sitting on it, and
the oil sight window is full, although I am pretty certain that the
oil is only just over the top of the sight window.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
wrote:
Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If
it is overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the
airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high
level? my oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again.
So where is the upper limit?
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It's not that big a deal....Mine is too the top of the window. It hasn't used any and it doesn't seem to blow any out. I think it might have to be well above before you get problems.
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Oops...LOL...yeah your right I checked the chain with her sitting on
it, with her moaning, and checked the oil with her holding one side of
the bike, with her moaning. But yeah the bike was off the stand, on
our garage floor and upright.
it is a bit over so I am going to try and get some out using a syringe
and tubing.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
wrote:
I don't think it is required to have a rider on. I suppose that's OK
if it
sags the same amount front and rear...
I checked the bike off the stand, with the missus sitting on it, and
the oil sight window is full, although I am pretty certain that the
oil is only just over the top of the sight window.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
wrote:
Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If
it is
overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the
airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high
level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again.
So where
is the upper limit?
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Yeah, Nige, why don't you pop off the right side cover, pull out the air filter, and have a keek into the right airbox with a torch to see if there's any oil coating the inside? Also pull out the little plug at the bottom of the rubber tube leading off the airbox, to see if any oil drips out, should give you some idea if you're getting too much up in there... I would encourage you to put the bike on the centrestand on a level surface with 16.5-17 mm. (11/16") thick chocks (bits of plank) under the tires, and wait 'til it's cold, for accurate checking of the oil level. Trying to do it off the stand or with a rider on is fraught with difficulties (as well as moaning!) The slightest bit off-centre gives a false read. As well, trying to check while the oil's hot after a run is hopeless, it expands into the wrong chamber and gives a "too full" false reading. I leave the bike on their chocks so when it is cold the next day I check before starting off. Ruari --- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
It's not that big a deal....Mine is too the top of the window. It
hasn't used any and it doesn't seem to blow any out. I think it might have to be well above before you get problems.
Oops...LOL...yeah your right I checked the chain with her sitting on it, with her moaning, and checked the oil with her holding one
side of the bike, with her moaning. But yeah the bike was off the stand,
on our garage floor and upright.
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Nige,
What sort of oil are you using? A few years ago whilst on holiday in Italy I gave the W a day long thrash, in company with a 900 Ninja. We sat for 450 miles, at 90/100 stopping only for petrol (Autostrada from Frejuce(sp?) to Anconna). Temp was 40 + C. I was using mineral oil and had checked the level the day before. The oil went from the top of the sight glass to below the minimum, gulp. Topped her up, and no harm done apparently. I have since changed to synthetic, and she hasn't used any oil since...I wouldn't worry about being a jot over, just take her out and cane her, good & proper....
Mark,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "nige_1959" <nigel.denton1@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: [W650riders] Re: Oil level... Oops...LOL...yeah your right I checked the chain with her sitting on
it, with her moaning, and checked the oil with her holding one side of
the bike, with her moaning. But yeah the bike was off the stand, on
our garage floor and upright.
it is a bit over so I am going to try and get some out using a syringe
and tubing.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
wrote:
I don't think it is required to have a rider on. I suppose that's OK
if it
sags the same amount front and rear...
I checked the bike off the stand, with the missus sitting on it, and
the oil sight window is full, although I am pretty certain that the
oil is only just over the top of the sight window.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
wrote:
Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If
it is
overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the
airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a little
mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high
level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning the bike
and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again.
So where
is the upper limit?
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The hanging down pipes are the thing. Any oil will dribble from there. A light coating on the inside of the plastic airbox won't touch anything, and I suppose if a serios quantity runs from the drain pipe I would slide out the filters and wash them, but otherwise probably not bother. The weather is so shit at the moment one feels very unmotivated re bike stuff...
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Yeah, Nige, why don't you pop off the right side cover, pull out the
air filter, and have a keek into the right airbox with a torch to see
if there's any oil coating the inside? Also pull out the little
plug at the bottom of the rubber tube leading off the airbox, to see
if any oil drips out, should give you some idea if you're getting too
much up in there...
I would encourage you to put the bike on the centrestand on a level
surface with 16.5-17 mm. (11/16") thick chocks (bits of plank) under
the tires, and wait 'til it's cold, for accurate checking of the oil
level. Trying to do it off the stand or with a rider on is fraught
with difficulties (as well as moaning!) The slightest bit off-centre
gives a false read. As well, trying to check while the oil's hot
after a run is hopeless, it expands into the wrong chamber and gives
a "too full" false reading. I leave the bike on their chocks so when
it is cold the next day I check before starting off.
Ruari
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
wrote:
It's not that big a deal....Mine is too the top of the window. It
hasn't
used any and it doesn't seem to blow any out. I think it might have to be
well above before you get problems.
Oops...LOL...yeah your right I checked the chain with her sitting on
it, with her moaning, and checked the oil with her holding one
side of
the bike, with her moaning. But yeah the bike was off the stand,
on
our garage floor and upright.
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I'm using Mobil 1 4T At the moment I am using my RZ250, as the weather is so poor, the RZ being a hack and the W being nice and shiney. So the RZ is getting caned....and I mean caned! So much so that I have decided to get a hack with a bit more performance, although I do have a 350 topend that could go on the RZ...decisions...decisions... --- In W650riders@..., "Mark Campbell" <scrubby64@...> wrote:
Nige,
What sort of oil are you using? A few years ago whilst on holiday in
Italy I gave the W a day long thrash, in company with a 900 Ninja. We sat for 450 miles, at 90/100 stopping only for petrol (Autostrada from Frejuce(sp?) to Anconna). Temp was 40 + C. I was using mineral oil and had checked the level the day before. The oil went from the top of the sight glass to below the minimum, gulp. Topped her up, and no harm done apparently. I have since
changed to synthetic, and she hasn't used any oil since...I wouldn't worry about being a jot over, just take her out and cane her, good & proper....
Mark,
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To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:02 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Oil level...
Oops...LOL...yeah your right I checked the chain with her sitting on
it, with her moaning, and checked the oil with her holding one side of
the bike, with her moaning. But yeah the bike was off the stand, on
our garage floor and upright.
it is a bit over so I am going to try and get some out using a syringe
and tubing.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
wrote:
I don't think it is required to have a rider on. I suppose that's OK
if it
sags the same amount front and rear...
I checked the bike off the stand, with the missus sitting on it, and
the oil sight window is full, although I am pretty certain that the
oil is only just over the top of the sight window.
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
wrote:
Halfway up the window when the bike is dead level and upright. If
it is
overfull and you run at high speed it can blow oil vapour into the
airbox....but only a bit.
Mine doesn't seem to care!
Jon
Checked the oil level last night, I can see where there is a
little mark showing 'low' level, but where is the mark to show high
level? my
oil fills the sight window, although it appears to be just
fractionally above the top of the window...seen by leaning
the bike and then watching the window as I put the bike upright again.
So where
is the upper limit?
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The chocks sound like a good idea. Next question how do I remove oil without removing the sump plug? I thought about using a syringe and a bit of flexy pipe... --- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
Yeah, Nige, why don't you pop off the right side cover, pull out the
air filter, and have a keek into the right airbox with a torch to see
if there's any oil coating the inside? Also pull out the little
plug at the bottom of the rubber tube leading off the airbox, to see
if any oil drips out, should give you some idea if you're getting too
much up in there...
I would encourage you to put the bike on the centrestand on a level
surface with 16.5-17 mm. (11/16") thick chocks (bits of plank) under
the tires, and wait 'til it's cold, for accurate checking of the oil
level. Trying to do it off the stand or with a rider on is fraught
with difficulties (as well as moaning!) The slightest bit off-centre
gives a false read. As well, trying to check while the oil's hot
after a run is hopeless, it expands into the wrong chamber and gives
a "too full" false reading. I leave the bike on their chocks so when
it is cold the next day I check before starting off.
Ruari
--- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@" <jonhaddock@>
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If there's absolutely no air visible at the top of the sight window when level, go for the syringe. Maybe a turkey baster and rubber hose would work. I have only a 50% successs rate trying to remove oil via the drain plug, once i managed it but the other time it only dripped slowly then gushed out together with the damn plug.
Ruari
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Next question how do I remove oil without removing the sump plug? I
thought about using a syringe and a bit of flexy pipe...
--- In W650riders@..., "Ruari McLennan" <r.mclennan@...>
wrote:
Yeah, Nige, why don't you pop off the right side cover, pull out the
air filter, and have a keek into the right airbox with a torch to see
if there's any oil coating the inside? Also pull out the little
plug at the bottom of the rubber tube leading off the airbox, to see
if any oil drips out, should give you some idea if you're getting too
much up in there...
I would encourage you to put the bike on the centrestand on a level
surface with 16.5-17 mm. (11/16") thick chocks (bits of plank) under
the tires, and wait 'til it's cold, for accurate checking of the oil
level. Trying to do it off the stand or with a rider on is fraught
with difficulties (as well as moaning!) The slightest bit off-centre
gives a false read. As well, trying to check while the oil's hot
after a run is hopeless, it expands into the wrong chamber and gives
a "too full" false reading. I leave the bike on their chocks so when
it is cold the next day I check before starting off.
Ruari
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