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Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
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Hi Anita,
I think you will find that they are all pretty much like that, if adjusted as per the manual.You quickly get used to it though, and the adjustment doesn't drift....the W always feels a bit weird, clutch wise, for a few miles after I have been riding something else...
Mark,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita" <anita_reid@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
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Thank You Mark,
My husband tried to adjust it, but like I said there isn't any description in the manual on how to do it. Overall I love the bike, most people here in the US mistake it for a Triumph.
Anita
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Hi Anita, I think you will find that they are all pretty much like that, if adjusted as per the manual.You quickly get used to it though, and the adjustment doesn't drift....the W always feels a bit weird, clutch wise, for a few miles after I have been
riding something else... Mark, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita" < anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> To: < W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment > Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650 > used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My > husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on > how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out > there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks > > > > Go to temporary photos site - :: > Send an email to W650riders-nomail@yahoogroups.com to stop email delivery. > :: > Send an email to W650riders-normal@yahoogroups.com to resume email > delivery. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Sal,
Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)
Anita
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The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.
Hi, Anita.
First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large
thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.
The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.
-Sal
On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net>
wrote: Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
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Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab
quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the
clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with
some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get
used to.
?
Ruari McLennan
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch
Adjustment
Sal,
Thank you very much this is very helpful. My
husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we
figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how
the previous riders rode this bike :)
Anita
Salvyrider
<salvyrider@...>
wrote:
The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust
for wear like you could in the old days.
Hi, Anita.
First
adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then
unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is
loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle
meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot.
If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on
the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go
this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all
different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment
will be enough with only 12K miles.
The W's clutch tends to be a bit
grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very
narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike,
IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.
-Sal
On 7/3/07, Anita
<anita_reid@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my
W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch.
My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description
on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else
out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help.
Thanks
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Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita
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Yes, Anita, they
are all like that, they grab quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get used to. ? Ruari McLennan ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Sal,
Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)
Anita
Salvyrider <salvyrider@gmail.com> wrote: The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.
Hi, Anita.
First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and
replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.
The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.
-Sal
On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
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Anita
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Weaknesses on the W are a cracking rear fender, poor front
tire if you still have the original Accolade ribbed tire, and if you have some
miles on it the front sprocket may hook. All stuff you can inspect and take care
of if needed before a long ride. Other than that, no problems.
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Dennis
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch
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Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks
to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really
appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband
nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is
different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the
W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita
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Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket, it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.
Anita
"Dennis J. Guggemos" wrote:
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Anita ? Weaknesses on the W are a cracking rear fender, poor front tire if you still have the
original Accolade ribbed tire, and if you have some miles on it the front sprocket may hook. All stuff you can inspect and take care of if needed before a long ride. Other than that, no problems. ? Dennis ? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip
planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita .
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Okie dokie, have fun on your run.
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Oh, even if hubby finds the sprocket as ok, there may be a
fair amount? of old chain lube and road grit built up in the cavity. Turns
into something like hard tarmac, should be cleaned out every so often. He'll see
it if he pops the cover off. If you do replace the sprocket, don't get an
original Kawasaki part, it's soft steel, get one from ?.
Of course, if it is visibly hooked, probably time for a chain and rear sprocket
too.
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Dennis
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:13
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch
Adjustment
Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the
tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the
W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket,
it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.
Anita
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Dennis,
Thanks!!! Yeah he knows about that. We are stoked about the ride it'll be my first long ride. Going from LA to Monterey, its a great ride along Big Sur. He rides a 04 Triumph Thruxton. Of course when we ride up together to any place everyone thinks the W is a brit bike. I just love bursting their bubble. :)
Anita
"Dennis J. Guggemos" wrote:
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Okie dokie, have fun on your run. ? Oh, even if hubby
finds the sprocket as ok, there may be a fair amount? of old chain lube and road grit built up in the cavity. Turns into something like hard tarmac, should be cleaned out every so often. He'll see it if he pops the cover off. If you do replace the sprocket, don't get an original Kawasaki part, it's soft steel, get one from ?. Of course, if it is visibly hooked, probably time for a chain and rear sprocket too. ? Dennis ? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket, it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.
Anita .
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Anita:? I can't really tell you about other
bikes, the W650 is my first (at least my first in 30 years).? But, I hear
that like me, most have to get used to a firm flip up into second gear, or it
may stay in neutral occasionally.? I still rev her in neutral once in a
while.? Also, a slow "tick, tick" sound on idling is normal.? Look out
for cracks starting on the rear fender at the edge near the top of the tailligh
bracket.??? Keep the oil at 1/2 way up the sight window when
cold, not at the top, or it overflows into the airbox.? Test for weave or
wobble by taking your hands off and decelerating at 45-50 mph.? No, don't
differentiate between the two (W or W), or we'll get a hundred e-mails
explaining the difference ad nauseum.?? I will remember the other
foibles tomorrow when I get on her.??
Send a pic when your "ride is pimped."? Paul
on Vancouver Island here has a nice cafe style W.? I am trying for a 50s
standard Britbike look, with lapses like 60s grips & the?later Lucas
turn signals and round mirrors.? Look is half the fun with this bike.?
I have a theory that the 1999-2000 model is closer to a 1959 T120? first year Triumph "Bonneville" in appearance than any
other year, especially the seat, despite all the writers who say it's like a
1968.? Click?Google Images and see if you agree.
?
Ruari
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48
PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch
Adjustment
Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in
a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I
really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my
husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650
that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from
the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :)
Anita
Ruari McLennan wrote:
Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab
quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the
clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left
with some cable slackness.? Somethig to
just get used to.
?
Ruari McLennan
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Original Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject:
Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Sal,
Thank you very much this is very helpful. My
husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we
figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure
how the previous riders rode this bike
:)
Anita
Salvyrider <salvyrider@gmail.com>
wrote:
The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't
adjust for wear like you could in the old days.
Hi, Anita.
First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber
boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one
until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of
play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large
thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust
where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after
removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep
track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all
likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only
12K miles.
The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it
grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather
zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish
we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.
-Sal
On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my
W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much
clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a
description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be
someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be
able to help. Thanks
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Ruari,
Thank you so much!!! I certainly will post pic's once I'm done with it. It is my first big bike. I'm a german immigrant in the US and I used to ride in Germany small bikes (Zndapp and Kreidler mainly 50 cc's and dirt bikes), but when my daughter was born I stopped riding (25 years ago).? I enjoyed riding on the back of my husbands bikes, but when he was deployed to Afghanistan (1 1/2 yrs ago) I had to find something to do. I decided bike riding is something I truly enjoy and bought myself a 250 Honda Rebel, however I soon realized it was just not enough power for me on the freeways. I started looking for a used? newer Bonneville and came across a W650 and thought it was a much prettier bike. My husband could not believe I bought this bike while he was gone, he was proud of me, haha. He informed me it is a somewhat rare bike here in the US, they only sold 700 here in the US. And yes I agree with you it does look a lot closer to a Triumph 1959.
Anita
Ruari McLennan wrote:
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Anita:? I can't really tell you about other bikes, the W650 is my first (at least my first in 30 years).? But, I hear that like me, most have to get used to a firm flip up into second gear, or it may stay in neutral occasionally.? I still rev her in neutral once in a while.? Also, a slow "tick, tick" sound on idling is normal.? Look out for cracks starting on the rear fender at the edge near the top of the
tailligh bracket.??? Keep the oil at 1/2 way up the sight window when cold, not at the top, or it overflows into the airbox.? Test for weave or wobble by taking your hands off and decelerating at 45-50 mph.? No, don't differentiate between the two (W or W), or we'll get a hundred e-mails explaining the difference ad nauseum.?? I will remember the other foibles tomorrow when I get on her.?? Send a pic when your "ride is pimped."? Paul on Vancouver Island here has a nice cafe style W.? I am trying for a 50s standard Britbike look, with lapses like 60s grips & the?later Lucas turn signals and round mirrors.? Look is half the fun with this bike.? I have a theory that the 1999-2000 model is closer to a 1959 T120? first year Triumph "Bonneville" in appearance than any other year, especially the seat, despite all
the writers who say it's like a 1968.? Click?Google Images and see if you agree. ? Ruari ? ? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already
from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita
Ruari McLennan ca> wrote: Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get used to. ? Ruari McLennan ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Sal,
Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)
Anita
Salvyrider <salvyrider@gmail.com> wrote: The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.
Hi, Anita.
First
adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.
The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean
Streak.
-Sal
On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
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Hi Anita, here's a scan of my service manual clutch
adjustment instructions, I assume you won't need the next page going into what
to do at the other end if the lever doesn't have enough adjustment
leeway.
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Ruari?
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:38
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Thank You Mark,
My husband tried to adjust it, but like
I said there isn't any description in the manual on how to do it. Overall I
love the bike, most people here in the US mistake it for a
Triumph.
Anita
Mark Campbell <scrubby64@...> wrote:
Hi Anita, I think you will find that they are all pretty much
like that, if adjusted as per the manual.You quickly get used to it
though, and the adjustment doesn't drift....the W always feels a bit
weird, clutch wise, for a few miles after I have been riding something
else... Mark, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita"
< anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> To:
< W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [W650riders] Clutch
Adjustment > Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I
bought my W650 > used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't
much clutch. My > husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was
not a description on > how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might
be someone else out > there that experienced the same thing and might
be able to help. Thanks > > > > Go to temporary
photos site - :: >
Send an email to W650riders-nomail@yahoogroups.com
to stop email delivery. > :: > Send an email to W650riders-normal@yahoogroups.com
to resume email > delivery. > Yahoo! Groups
Links > > >
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Ruari,
Thanks! I'll keep it for future use. Hubby adjusted what could be adjusted.
Ruari McLennan wrote:
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Hi Anita, here's a scan of my service manual clutch adjustment instructions, I assume you won't need the next page going into what to do at the other end if the lever doesn't have enough adjustment leeway. ? Ruari? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment
Thank You Mark,
My husband tried to adjust it, but like I said there isn't any description in the manual on how to do it. Overall I love the bike, most people here in the US mistake it for a Triumph.
Anita
Mark Campbell <scrubby64@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Anita, I think you will find that they are all pretty much like that, if adjusted as per the manual.You quickly get used to it though, and the adjustment doesn't drift....the W always feels a bit weird, clutch wise, for a few miles after I have been riding something else... Mark, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita" < anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> To: < W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment > Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650 > used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My > husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a
description on > how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out > there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks > > > > Go to temporary photos site - :: > Send an email to W650riders-nomail@yahoogroups.com to stop email delivery. > :: > Send an email to W650riders-normal@yahoogroups.com to resume email > delivery. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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