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Low idle, uuah?


 

Hi all,

My Dub continues running like a champ (knock on wood) but the last day or two I noticed a change. After adhering to the usual starting protocol, once reaching operating temp and fully moving the enrichner slide back in my idle RPMs are uncomfortably low; 600-800 area. Didn't know it could idle that low!
So, no struggles at highway speeds nor stalling or any 'hunting' for idle but the correct idle on mine was always 900-1,000 like clockwork.

I know about the magic black idle speed knob but gently turning it clockwise to raise idle RPM has yielded nothing and it only turns very little. I did not see anything binding it and sprayed with lubricant. I don't wanna force it for fear of breaking it.

Bike easily kicks over and runs well and a 'quick fix' is simply leaving the enrichment slide out slightly to ensure no low RPM at idle, but we all know this solves nothing. Thoughts? We know not plugged pilot jets because of easy starts and it does idle and no stalling. Not main jets because it does it's normal routine in 3rd gear 4800rpm at 65mph I believe, no odd noises.?

Thanks everyone! Disclaimer; ridden daily but due to new area it has to hop right on the highway after a block, this not reaching full operating temp until I basically reach the destination of a mere 7+ miles one way!


 

That idle adjust knob can be very stiff. You can give it a good clockwise?twist and see if you can get it moving. I'd avoid counter/anti clockwise - you don't want to accidentally unmount it.??

Are you running with a fuel filter? That will catch extraneous particles that could cause a clog. Any old filter will do - mine was a lawnmower filter.

If you can get hold of a bottle of Chevron Techron, try running that (or, better yet, fill the carb bowls and leave it sit overnight.)

Others will chime in - but the other thing to consider is the -other- idle adjustment, the one that requires pulling the caps and using a small screwdriver on the bottom of the carbs. But I'd want to rule out either contamination or worn needles, first. Good luck.?

S

On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 9:50?AM <jseconds77@...> wrote:
Hi all,

My Dub continues running like a champ (knock on wood) but the last day or two I noticed a change. After adhering to the usual starting protocol, once reaching operating temp and fully moving the enrichner slide back in my idle RPMs are uncomfortably low; 600-800 area. Didn't know it could idle that low!
So, no struggles at highway speeds nor stalling or any 'hunting' for idle but the correct idle on mine was always 900-1,000 like clockwork.

I know about the magic black idle speed knob but gently turning it clockwise to raise idle RPM has yielded nothing and it only turns very little. I did not see anything binding it and sprayed with lubricant. I don't wanna force it for fear of breaking it.

Bike easily kicks over and runs well and a 'quick fix' is simply leaving the enrichment slide out slightly to ensure no low RPM at idle, but we all know this solves nothing. Thoughts? We know not plugged pilot jets because of easy starts and it does idle and no stalling. Not main jets because it does it's normal routine in 3rd gear 4800rpm at 65mph I believe, no odd noises.?

Thanks everyone! Disclaimer; ridden daily but due to new area it has to hop right on the highway after a block, this not reaching full operating temp until I basically reach the destination of a mere 7+ miles one way!


 

Thanks! I always use fresh gas, bike is ridden daily(never sits), and I top off with Star-Tron fuel treatment, which have been doing for years. This is the first 'issue' and it's minor considering it does everything it's supposed to be doing.

I know carb removal on W is a pain. I wanna avoid it and think this is possible. Will report back this week how subsequent rides go


 

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Looking for a cylinder head for my 2001 W650. Mine is cracked. Looked everywhere can’t find one. ?Thanks?

On Mar 13, 2024, at 2:32?PM, jseconds77 via groups.io <jseconds77@...> wrote:

?Thanks! I always use fresh gas, bike is ridden daily(never sits), and I top off with Star-Tron fuel treatment, which have been doing for years. This is the first 'issue' and it's minor considering it does everything it's supposed to be doing.

I know carb removal on W is a pain. I wanna avoid it and think this is possible. Will report back this week how subsequent rides go


 

Available for about $100 on IMPEX Japan --?



On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 12:47?PM Cory Campbell via <corym52=[email protected]> wrote:
Looking for a cylinder head for my 2001 W650. Mine is cracked. Looked everywhere can’t find one.? Thanks?

On Mar 13, 2024, at 2:32?PM, jseconds77 via <jseconds77=[email protected]> wrote:

?Thanks! I always use fresh gas, bike is ridden daily(never sits), and I top off with Star-Tron fuel treatment, which have been doing for years. This is the first 'issue' and it's minor considering it does everything it's supposed to be doing.

I know carb removal on W is a pain. I wanna avoid it and think this is possible. Will report back this week how subsequent rides go


 

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Noticed a complete engine on Ebay missing left cover. $600 if I recall correctly

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cory Campbell via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2024 2:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [W650Riders] Low idle, uuah?

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Looking for a cylinder head for my 2001 W650. Mine is cracked. Looked everywhere can’t find one. ?Thanks?



On Mar 13, 2024, at 2:32?PM, jseconds77 via groups.io <jseconds77@...> wrote:

?Thanks! I always use fresh gas, bike is ridden daily(never sits), and I top off with Star-Tron fuel treatment, which have been doing for years. This is the first 'issue' and it's minor considering it does everything it's supposed to be doing.

I know carb removal on W is a pain. I wanna avoid it and think this is possible. Will report back this week how subsequent rides go


 

Wrong thread! However, you can try Kawasaki Parts Warehouse. Lots of NOS stuff but some sticker shock for big ticket items
https://www.kawasakipartswarehouse.com


 

Humf. Start ya own thread for sourcing a cylinder head.
Shakes fist. Ha!?


 

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Sorry?

On Mar 13, 2024, at 5:22?PM, jseconds77 via groups.io <jseconds77@...> wrote:

?Humf. Start ya own thread for sourcing a cylinder head.
Shakes fist. Ha!?


 

You don't have to remove the carbs to do the fine idle adjustment. Just FYI. Good luck.?


On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 11:32?AM <jseconds77@...> wrote:
Thanks! I always use fresh gas, bike is ridden daily(never sits), and I top off with Star-Tron fuel treatment, which have been doing for years. This is the first 'issue' and it's minor considering it does everything it's supposed to be doing.

I know carb removal on W is a pain. I wanna avoid it and think this is possible. Will report back this week how subsequent rides go


 

Yup! As usual, all of ya were correct. Utilized the 'magic' external idle speed knob and it did the trick; happily ticks at 1k RPM under load and quick runs.
What will Kawi think of next? Ha, to do that on last ride was air/fuel adjustments, carb sync, and jet inspections. Fun.