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Re: The best day off.

 

New Zealand? There's a country I would really like to go hang out in for a while. I've seen some pictures and it looks stunning.

How high are your Alps? Also, you must be heading into summer there right?

gene in OR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Murray" <bazzum@...>

Yesterday (Friday) I had to have the morning off to look after three
of
the kids (School holidays), while Jen took the little one to the
optomitrist. Had a good morning, went and got the boat trailer road
legal ready for Monday, opening day for the trout fishing season.

Just before lunchtime I was reading the paper and having a coffee
when
my boss phoned to say she had dealt with the urgent jobs I was going
to
do in the afternoon. She asked, seeing as it was a lovely day, if I'd
like to have the afternoon off as well and make a 4 day weekend. No
second thoughts needed there.

So within about 2 minutes I had the bike out and the gear ready. Jen
came home about 5 minutes later and was quite happy for me to
disappear
for the afternoon.

I decided to go to the Bealey Hotel which is on the Eastern side of
Arthurs Pass from here. This is an Alpine pass through the Southern
Alps. The ride was brillent. I live on the coast so we are going from
sea level to the mountains. The roads are all good with everyting
from
open farmland to bush right down to the edge of the road, tight
twisty
stuff and enjoyable sweeping bends as well. The ride there took just
over an hour and was about 100km's. I had a relax at the pub and
enjoyed the scenery for an hour and headed home. I turned off at
Jacksons to come home around Lake Brunner to have some different
scenery. All up it was a 230Km trip.

A great day. I learnt that my bike will do 200km's before hitting
reserve. I struck a patch of rain grooves on a bend in the mountains
and know what you mean when you say the front tyre will follow the
grooves! A guy in the car park came over for a chat and was very
impressed with the W650.

I should have taken my camera, I took some photo's with my phone but
they are pretty small when put on the computer, next time.

Cheers
Murray
NWC - forums (not the W650 list)

Laura
 

Re: Better source for luggage rack?

john gary simpson
 

Nope; just the rear luggage rack for my Biker's friend duffel bag.---
In W650riders@..., "Jay Brewer" <jay@...> wrote:

So are you getting the side - saddle bag givi cases? Or just a rear
luggage rack that you'll bungie something to it? I'm looking now -
as
I need at least enough storage for my trip to the local game store I
used to do on my old scoot - 2-4 dvds and assorted junk.

Perhaps a tank bag? I'm having zero luck finding the perfect
solution.

--- In W650riders@..., "john gary simpson"
<eustisgary@> wrote:

They e-mailed me and said they had an order large enough not to
charge the shipping surcharge. I confirmed the order. No
telling
when i will get it, but it sure won't be in time for
Biketoberfest!--
- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@> wrote:

Something obviously changed since I bought mine - there was no
surcharge 3
years ago.

You could also try -
you'd
pay more
for shipping and the dollar exchange but it might still be less
than TT.

-S

On 9/29/07, john gary simpson <eustisgary@> wrote:

I ordered the rear rack, not the side case racks. They e-
mailed
me
back that they wouldn't be charging the extra hundred bucks.
Re: Better source for luggage rack?

Jay Brewer
 

So are you getting the side - saddle bag givi cases? Or just a rear
luggage rack that you'll bungie something to it? I'm looking now - as
I need at least enough storage for my trip to the local game store I
used to do on my old scoot - 2-4 dvds and assorted junk.

Perhaps a tank bag? I'm having zero luck finding the perfect solution.

--- In W650riders@..., "john gary simpson"
<eustisgary@...> wrote:

They e-mailed me and said they had an order large enough not to
charge the shipping surcharge. I confirmed the order. No telling
when i will get it, but it sure won't be in time for Biketoberfest!--
- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@> wrote:

Something obviously changed since I bought mine - there was no
surcharge 3
years ago.

You could also try - you'd
pay more
for shipping and the dollar exchange but it might still be less
than TT.

-S

On 9/29/07, john gary simpson <eustisgary@> wrote:

I ordered the rear rack, not the side case racks. They e-mailed
me
back that they wouldn't be charging the extra hundred bucks.
Re: accident - NWC

Laura
 

Re: Better source for luggage rack?

john gary simpson
 

They e-mailed me and said they had an order large enough not to
charge the shipping surcharge. I confirmed the order. No telling
when i will get it, but it sure won't be in time for Biketoberfest!--
- In W650riders@..., Salvyrider <salvyrider@...> wrote:

Something obviously changed since I bought mine - there was no
surcharge 3
years ago.

You could also try - you'd
pay more
for shipping and the dollar exchange but it might still be less
than TT.

-S

On 9/29/07, john gary simpson <eustisgary@...> wrote:

I ordered the rear rack, not the side case racks. They e-mailed
me
back that they wouldn't be charging the extra hundred bucks.
Re: thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

Larry Botheras
 

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Partly right partly wrong.? The oil will mean the load on the thread being higher, but an extension on a torque wrench won¡¯t make the wrench break later or anything¡­

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Larry Botheras

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Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Ruari McLennan
Sent: 29 September 2007 17:03
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

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I tightened my spark plugs with a toque wrench to spec, but have been
thinking ever since that I did them too tight because: a) I oiled the
threads, which must make it easier to tighten; b) the long extender I
used must make the torque greater than the standard torque based on a short
wrench.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hudson" <bluesman77@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: [W650riders] thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the
engine

> In the past, I've read where others, including myself, have experienced
> a loud snapping sound, like an electrical arcing, just after the engine
> was started. When checking my valve clearances a few months back, I
> discovered both of my spark plugs were little more than hand-tight from
> the factory. Fortunately, even after 7500 miles, the threads looked
> fine and there were no signs of leakage or damage to the threads.
>
> At 1st, I thought maybe it was just a coincidence. But, after
> approximately 5 yrs. of snapping, almost every time I fired-up the
> engine cold, since tightening the plugs, I have yet to hear the
> infamous snapping or arcing sound. For those of you who are
> experiencing this phenomenon, if you haven't already done so, you might
> check your plugs.
>
> Jim Hudson
>
>
>
>
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Re: accident - NWC

Larry Botheras
 

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Nothing wrong with the W was just a bit too high and attracted 70+ yr old guys instead of the eligible age one oh and it had too much chrome!

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So you better start riding a lary coloured sports bike to attract the under 60¡¯s Laura J

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Larry Botheras

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Essex UK

W650 Wrench

2007 Moto Guzzi Norge

1977 KH400

1978 CD175

1994 Ural Solo

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On 29/09/2007, Martin Taylor <martin.taylor@...> wrote:

If you had read the link that went before, you would see that I was explaining to Laura (who is using a scooter while her W is in for repair after a prang) what to expect on a scooter as she has not ridden one before.
I agree, a W is miles ahead, but don't knock a good product.

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NWC you have to read this!!

[email protected]
 

In a message dated 9/28/2007 4:32:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, my friend writes:




Watch out for screen spew.

Rrrose.
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Re: Better source for luggage rack?

 

Re: Photo of Dennis' old W in an art gallery?????

 

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Jim
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There's a web site where you can frame any photo in a variety of museum venues, I forget where it is but probably can find it again if you like.
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I no longer own the W, sold it to a young man searching for just such a W with the changes I made. I think it's living a happy life in San Francisco now.
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Thanks for the compliment.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Hudson
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Photo of Dennis' old W in an art gallery?????

Dennis,

What is the story on the photo at the top of the Wriders web page of a
photo of your old "W" in what appears to be an art museum? If this has
already been explained, I somehow managed to miss it.

Of all the non-stock paint/badge schemes I've seen for a W650, yours
is, by far, my favorite.

Jim Hudson

Re: thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

 

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Jim
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I found my plugs marginally finger tight with only a few k miles on it. Snapped before and after I tightened them.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Hudson
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: [W650riders] thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

In the past, I've read where others, including myself, have experienced
a loud snapping sound, like an electrical arcing, just after the engine
was started. When checking my valve clearances a few months back, I
discovered both of my spark plugs were little more than hand-tight from
the factory. Fortunately, even after 7500 miles, the threads looked
fine and there were no signs of leakage or damage to the threads.

At 1st, I thought maybe it was just a coincidence. But, after
approximately 5 yrs. of snapping, almost every time I fired-up the
engine cold, since tightening the plugs, I have yet to hear the
infamous snapping or arcing sound. For those of you who are
experiencing this phenomenon, if you haven't already done so, you might
check your plugs.

Jim Hudson

Re: thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

Martin Taylor
 

I think that a torque wrench works on the same pressure whatever the length of bar as when it reaches the correct torque it clicks and won't go any further.
I realise that if you use a long bar you will exert more pressure, but that just means you reach the required level quicker.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Ruari McLennan
Sent: Sat 29/09/2007 17:03
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine



I tightened my spark plugs with a toque wrench to spec, but have been
thinking ever since that I did them too tight because: a) I oiled the
threads, which must make it easier to tighten; b) the long extender I
used must make the torque greater than the standard torque based on a short
wrench.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hudson" <bluesman77@... <mailto:bluesman77%40embarqmail.com> >
To: <W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: [W650riders] thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the
engine

In the past, I've read where others, including myself, have experienced
a loud snapping sound, like an electrical arcing, just after the engine
was started. When checking my valve clearances a few months back, I
discovered both of my spark plugs were little more than hand-tight from
the factory. Fortunately, even after 7500 miles, the threads looked
fine and there were no signs of leakage or damage to the threads.

At 1st, I thought maybe it was just a coincidence. But, after
approximately 5 yrs. of snapping, almost every time I fired-up the
engine cold, since tightening the plugs, I have yet to hear the
infamous snapping or arcing sound. For those of you who are
experiencing this phenomenon, if you haven't already done so, you might
check your plugs.

Jim Hudson




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Re: Photo of Dennis' old W in an art gallery?????

Ruari McLennan
 

I suspect that Dennis himelf may one day be represented in a Photoshop museum, sporting a knowing wink.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hudson" <bluesman77@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Photo of Dennis' old W in an art gallery?????


Dennis,

What is the story on the photo at the top of the Wriders web page of a
photo of your old "W" in what appears to be an art museum? If this has
already been explained, I somehow managed to miss it.

Of all the non-stock paint/badge schemes I've seen for a W650, yours
is, by far, my favorite.

Jim Hudson




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Re: thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine

Ruari McLennan
 

I tightened my spark plugs with a toque wrench to spec, but have been thinking ever since that I did them too tight because: a) I oiled the threads, which must make it easier to tighten; b) the long extender I used must make the torque greater than the standard torque based on a short wrench.

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hudson" <bluesman77@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: [W650riders] thoughts on a loud snapping sound when starting the engine


In the past, I've read where others, including myself, have experienced
a loud snapping sound, like an electrical arcing, just after the engine
was started. When checking my valve clearances a few months back, I
discovered both of my spark plugs were little more than hand-tight from
the factory. Fortunately, even after 7500 miles, the threads looked
fine and there were no signs of leakage or damage to the threads.

At 1st, I thought maybe it was just a coincidence. But, after
approximately 5 yrs. of snapping, almost every time I fired-up the
engine cold, since tightening the plugs, I have yet to hear the
infamous snapping or arcing sound. For those of you who are
experiencing this phenomenon, if you haven't already done so, you might
check your plugs.

Jim Hudson




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Re: Better source for luggage rack?

john gary simpson
 

I ordered the rear rack, not the side case racks. They e-mailed me
back that they wouldn't be charging the extra hundred bucks. So it's
$178 total, with no idea how long it will take to get it. So I guess
I won't have it in time for Daytona.--- In
W650riders@..., "Jay Brewer" <jay@...> wrote:

Ouch. I didn't know it would even be that much. I want to get the
GIVI
side cases. Which ones did you order? Some alternatives to that
would
be good.

--- In W650riders@..., "john gary simpson"
<eustisgary@> wrote:

I ordered from Twisted Thtottle, but they cost $178 PLUS $100
special
order shipping surcharge, AND I wouldn't realistically see the
rack
for over two months! I'm not at all sure that I want to confirm
THAT
order. Any suggestions?
Re: accident - NWC

Laura
 

Photo of Dennis' old W in an art gallery?????

Jim Hudson
 

Dennis,

What is the story on the photo at the top of the Wriders web page of a
photo of your old "W" in what appears to be an art museum? If this has
already been explained, I somehow managed to miss it.

Of all the non-stock paint/badge schemes I've seen for a W650, yours
is, by far, my favorite.

Jim Hudson
Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

I can only speak for what I found while riding a Majesty until 12 months ago. I now own and thoroughly enjoy my W which in my mind is what a motorcycle should be like.
I also rode motorcycles of all shapes and descriptions in the 60's and even had a BSA Sunbeam scooter for a while, but only as a means of getting about. Was not either Mod or Rocker, justa two wheeler enthusiast.

________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of Hazel Clarke
Sent: Sat 29/09/2007 14:41
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



Not sure that's so true now. I've had scooter riders admire the W650 and I've seen some very nice scooters. The vintage motorcycle run we saw in Belgium met up with a big scooter run for a huge joint display on the seafront. There is at least one favourite motorcycle haunt locally, in Ironbridge, that is regularly frequented by scooterists. To my knowledge, neither party has felt the urge to push the others vehicles over :-) But then, I also ride a moped and I think it is ok for the classic motorbike magazines to feature scooters sometimes. Maybe I'm wierd......

Haze


----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Tym <mailto:rocker66@...>
To: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC


Martin One can only assume that you were not riding in the UK during the
60s.If you were you would know why. Scooter riders have as much in common
with bike riders as the mum on the school run has with a rally driver
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Taylor" <martin.taylor@... <mailto:martin.taylor@...> >
To: <W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders@...> >
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

> Hi Laura,
> > Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could
> > never work that one out!!)
Re: accident - NWC

Martin Taylor
 

If you had read the link that went before, you would see that I was explaining to Laura (who is using a scooter while her W is in for repair after a prang) what to expect on a scooter as she has not ridden one before.
I agree, a W is miles ahead, but don't knock a good product.


________________________________

From: W650riders@... on behalf of bazzum
Sent: Sat 29/09/2007 13:08
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC



Yay, who cares, if the w650 is in the same league as as scooter I'm a chinamam!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Taylor <mailto:martin.taylor@...>
To: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: RE: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC


Hi Laura,
I owned a yamaha Majesty scooter for two years and it was brilliant. The only things to watch out for are that a scooter will NOT handle the same as a motorcycle, and you will not have the same engine braking effect when going into bends due to the automatic drive. The instructions will probably tell you that you need to hold the front brake on while pressing the starter otherwise the thing will not work. The reason for this being that if you happened to have the throttle open while pressing the starter, you would take off at a rapid rate to the horizon. Also the starter motor will not work at all if the side stand is down. Sometimes you will probably notice the machine will creep forward on tickover while at lights/crossroads etc as you can never disengage the drive.
Have fun ( but "real motorcyclists" will probably ignore you.. could never work that one out!!)

________________________________

From: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Laura
Sent: Thu 27/09/2007 11:56
To: W650riders@... <mailto:W650riders%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: accident - NWC

I'm getting a real Burgman, no unfortunately not these massive ones but a 125. Street cred galore :cool:

On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> <mailto:laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> > > wrote:

Well the CBF250 is going back and being swapped for a real 'scooter'!! All the other bikes are too high. We went through 2 other scooters first, 2 yamahas but they turned out to be as high or even higher.

The cbf wat too high, missing the left mirror and teh clutch was too loose.

Now I've never ridden a scooter before. How difficult is that going to be?? My front brake is going to be where the clutch lever is I believe and the rear brake where the front brake is (right hand).

deary me, the life of a biker who wants to touch the floor properly.

laura




On 27/09/2007, Laura < laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> <mailto:laurauk.rider@... <mailto:laurauk.rider%40googlemail.com> > > wrote:

yeah hit from behiind and the side, he drove the indicator off (which is connected by a steel pin which was bent) and scratched the exhaust pipes on the right. The mudguard was completely crumpled up at the top underneath the mudaguard and the backwheel was stuck. I attach a picture. Bike has gone yesterday for inspection etc.

Laura




On 26/09/2007, Craig < ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1%40netzero.net> <mailto:ckrollins1@... <mailto:ckrollins1%40netzero.net> > > wrote:

Laura,

Sorry top hear about the accident, but at least most of the
damage was limited to the bike, and not you.
You say you were waiting to enter a roundabout: does this mean
you were struck from behind?
Are you still riding the Sportster?
Heal well and quickly,

Craig



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