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Locked A great short TNC primer with used prices

 

This link is chock full of info about ham radio TNC modems.



73
Mike? N0QBH


Locked Cheapskates Packet Radio (part

 

In the first installment I discussed getting set up for packet reception. In this article I'll describe the transmitting side of packet radio.


Most packet operators use their base station 2 meter mobile FM transceiver as the radio. Many of these newer radios have built in data connections, which makes things much easier. Else you take over the mic connection.

Unless you are handy with fine, unforgiving soldering, buying custom cables from a reputable source can save a lot of aggravation.

If you insist on attempting to solder your own, number #1 tip is to plug the connector you are soldering on, to a mating connector. This will keep the pins straight when the plastic gets soft.

Tip #2 small amounts of liquid flux are your friends - particularly when tinning wires and also when making connections. Alcohol cleans up.

The next question is what kind of TNC modem am I going to use? There are two paths here, hardware or software.

Hardware would be a 1200 baud TNC with radio Tx, Rx and PTT, along with DC power and the serial data connection. Since most newer computers do not have async serial ports, you will need a Keyspan serial to USB interface.

Don't forget the serial cables and possibly adapters.


While most use computers running a serial terminal program to talk to the TNC, I've seen the truly nerdy use RS232 to Bluetooth adapters and communicate via tablet or fone.

Software TNC setups use a radio to computer interface. Besides RF isolating and handling the transmit and receive audio, they usually incorporate a VOX type PTT to key the radio when there's data to send.

I personally use and recommend the Signalink USB external soundcard modem. Others prefer the Rig Runner, altho I am not familiar with it.

The most important thing to remember is you are going to be transmitting and like good Hams, we care about our signal. Besides frequency, there are two things under your control, power and deviation (loudness).

Power is simple. Don't use more than you need to get the job done. Accessing a local node using your outdoor antenna will likely work fine at 5 Watts. Save the 50 Watts for when you need it.

This would be a good place to point out many packet stations with a nearby node use Hand Held radios with an external antenna. Trying to use the rubber duck antenna often leads to all sorts of weird RFI issues.

The packet transmit deviation adjustment is best with a radio service monitor, altho, the "by ear method" seems to work well in most cases for us mere mortals.

Like I said earlier, deviation is how loudly the audio data signal is driving the transmitter can be either adjusted internally on most TNCs or on the front panel of the Signalink USB adapter.

The "by ear method" requires a second radio to listen to your transmitted signal while you adjust the volume. The TNCs all have a CALibrate command to key the transmitter with alternating 1200 and 2200 Hz tones.

Software TNCs usually require the packet program provide a calibrate function. In either case, choose an unused simplex frequency or, better yet, use a dummy load to transmit into while you are adjusting.

The idea is to turn up the deviation adjustment to the transmitter until the signal heard at the receiver doesn't get any louder (without distorting), then lower it until the signal is just noticeably quieter.

The way this works is most radios will limit deviation at about 4.5 kHz and your goal is 3 kHz.


Once you are set, it's time to try it out with the KB0MNU packet node. It's on 145.670 MHz simplex and responds to it's alias WILMAR. (Note the spelling - we're limited to 6 chars).

When you are connected, type help or ? to get a cheat sheet on using the node.

I'm including this link to an old, but very comprehensive packet radio primer. It's broken down in to sections, most of the networking stuff is not necessary and apt to be confusing.

https://choisser.com/packet/

73
Mike N0QBH


Locked Cheapskate's packet radio Part #1

 

A Cheapskate's Approach to Packet Radio (Part 1 receiving)


Packet radio Terminal Node Controllers (TNCs) are packet radio modems capable of communicating with each other over the air using the AX.25 protocols running at 300, 1200 or 9600 baud.

The radio side has connections for transmit and receive audio as well as the PTT (press to talk). The TNC also has a 12 volt power input and an async serial data connection allowing it to communicate with a computer (and human).

When operating packet with VHF radios, most use 1200 baud because it works well with voice radios and is a relatively forgiving data mode.

Since packet radio is an old digital mode, it's hardware is often found at hamfest flea markets. Some common brands were Kantronics, MFJ, Pacomm and AEA.

Because the TNC's are often 30 years old, they sometimes need some TLC to use them again.

My point here is your mileage may vary.


Another option that can work well is a virtual software TNC running on your computer.

This method uses the computer's sound card to listen for and emit the 1200 baud modem audio (packet racket the old timers called it).

While there are likely options for every computer type, I'll discuss a popular Windows program suite.

A Ukrainian Ham named Andre UZ7HO has created and maintained a popular packet radio program who's latest version is called soundmodem114.

He also has a terminal program called easyterm49 that operates seamlessly with soundmodem running.

The terminal program provides the user a TNC like interface that is functional and uncluttered while soundmodem is like the packet "engine under the hood".

Installing:

Andre's packet radio TNC webpage:



The 3 files needed:

soundmodem114.zip

easyterm49.zip

user_guide114_EN.zip

I created a sub directory named /packet which holds the unzipped programs.
Unzip the downloaded files to your new directory.
Make desktop shortcuts for the programs.

The user_guide114_EN.zip is a very handy .pdf document.


Receiving packets:

The following assumes your computer soundcard's MIC input is connected to a 2 meter FM radio's audio out. This usually takes a 1/8" stereo connector patch or jumper cord.

Set the frequency to a packet channel like 145.670 (local node WILMAR) or 144.390 APRS. You'll want some activity to see things work.


First start the soundmodem114 program. Then start the easyterm49 program.

The unplugged volume should be adjusted low audible with squelch open. When the program is running and it's hearing the radio's open squelch, the effects should be visible on the waterfall display.

An outdoor antenna will likely yield much more packet activity than one indoors, which will likely only hear the local node WILMAR.

When a packet is decoded you will see it a a lot of info on the soundmodem screen, while the easyterm screen is much more like what you would see with a real TNC.

Once you get it working, one of the fun things to do is listen in on the International Space Station (ISS) when they pass overhead several times a day on 145.825 MHz.

You might even hear me use them as a APRS digipeater, sending the world my location.

73
Mike N0QBH


Locked Re: Net Control needed next 2 weeks #netcontrol

 

Thanks Ben.


Locked Re: Net Control needed next 2 weeks #netcontrol

 

I can take net control this coming Sunday 9/24


Locked Net Control needed next 2 weeks #netcontrol

 

Good Afternoon,

I just realized that I won't be able to run the Sunday evening net for the next 2 weeks, Sept. 24 & Oct. 1.? I am looking for a volunteer or two.? The script for the was posted here a couple of weeks ago.? Please respond to this message if you're able to take one or both Sundays.

Tony


Locked Looking for details on the WILMAR node and some observations

 

Does anyone know the last time a computer was connected to the WILMAR KB0MNU-15 packet TNC (modem)?
How high is the antenna associated with it's radio? What kind of antenna?
I noticed the TNC has it's CW Ider enabled. That's a network no-no. Causes interference that doesn't need to exist. It's for countries that require it, US isn't one.
I noticed on some 145.67 maps a St Cloud node used to exist, but I'm not seeing it now. That could be an ideal hop from WILMAR to the rest of the network.
As it stands now, we are kind of orphaned, at least during the day because of this.
73
Mike N0QBH


Locked Re: My intro / WILMAR node

 

Hi Randy!

I'm looking for a user interface that adds TNC functionality to Direwolf.
Any suggestions?
I'm looking for low cost ways local users can explore packet radio.
Direwolf with a Signalink USB is attractive because the Signalink is so versatile for all sorts of digital ham stuff, one can justify the investment.

73
Mike N0QBH?


Locked Re: My intro / WILMAR node

 

I like direwolf! I've only ever used it in KISS mode for receive decoding, but it's super lightweight and operates like an old DOS machine, in like, well, it just works


Locked My intro / WILMAR node

 

I am getting active in the VHF/UHF world again after a long hiatus away.
A bit of history...
Back in the 1990's when I was active, packet radio was all the rage and my forte.
We had a thriving packet THENET network here in the Willmar area with a 100' high wide area node (MNWIL) out at the college and another on the Spicer Dietz Bros tower at 150' (MNSPI).
A UHF 9k6 baud backbone was constructed from Minneapolis to a high natural site near Cold Spring. That node fed St Cloud, Little Falls to the north and Willmar to the south.
We had from 1 to 3 BBS services going at any time which were tied into the world network so you could "e-mail" other hams all over the world. We also seen our first "flame wars" there, a precursor to today.
Several local hams had a personal computer attached serially to a TNC (packet modem). The modem has transmit, receive audio, built in PTT and connects to a 2m transceiver or even handheld.
That was all you needed to get on the air. We had a blast!?

Fast forward to today - the Internet made packet radio seem obsolete and it evaporated.? Ironically, in the packet era, the Internet was the Holy Grail.

I discovered there was an active 2m 1k2 baud node operating in Willmar on 145.670 called WILMAR.
I had some issues using it until I figured out it would only do a full connect if I used the alias WILMAR. I was trying to use the callsign associated WB0MNU-15. That doesn't do anything but connect and wait for a password or something.
The rest of the MN network is at least 2 hops away during the day, and may be better at night. However, a local node allows the locals to either keyboard to keyboard qso or e-mail to other's personal mailboxes using modest antennas and power.
Since most hams today don't have TNC modems, I'm experimenting with a software packet package called Direwolf. So far, I've found it works great to receive, but haven't the additional program(s) for full TNC capability located - yet.
I am going to try make the Oct club meeting and meet the gang.
73
Mike Berg N0QBH

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Locked Re: 146.910- Repeater CTCSS tone

 

A quick reread of the Yaesu "advanced" instructions tells me what you were explaining.?
Tone encode and tone squelch BOTH enable the outgoing sub audible tone.
I was under the impression tone squelch affected receive only.
73
Mike N0QBH


Locked Re: 146.910- Repeater CTCSS tone

 

I just tried and I was not able to bring up the .91 without a PL tone. Not sure what you experienced there.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 10:47?AM Mike Berg <mikeberg@...> wrote:

Noticed I could key the .91 with and without tone encoding today.?

Problems?
73
Mike N0QBH

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Locked Re: 146.910- Repeater CTCSS tone

 

Noticed I could key the .91 with and without tone encoding today.?

Problems?
73
Mike N0QBH

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Locked 146.910- Repeater CTCSS tone

 

Hello members,
This coming Friday, 9/1/2023 we will be enabling the 100hz CTCSS tone on the input of the 146.910- repeater. Both the input and output frequencies will have 100hz tones to help reduce interference and unwanted keying of the repeater. To ensure continued use of the 146.910- repeater, you will need to enable the CTCSS function and 100hz tone on transmit. Receive function will not be affected by this change.?


Locked W0SW Foxhunt

 

I would like to do a hidden transmitter hunt in Willmar before the weather gets cold. I'm going to plan a little farther out and do the foxhunt on Saturday, September 23rd at 6:30pm.?
Meeting location will be at the outdoor archery range located north of Walmart at 6pm if you'd like to join, team up with other or discuss the hunt beforehand .
The transmitter will be within Willmar city limits and on publicly accessible property.
More information will be available as we get closer to the foxhunt and the rest of the details get worked out.


Locked DXMAPS needs your support

 

Hello Everyone,?


I received this email from



I don't know if any of you have used this website in the past. I have used it many times years ago and I think it is a very good website for spotting current DX activities. Especially 6 meters for example.?

The way it works is for people to post their spotting reports on the site. Can be after working another ham on the band, or just receiving? stations you heard. It covers all amateur bands.?

The email I am forwarding is a request for financial help. DXMaps are looking for supporters... Maybe someone here might have resources for them to move to and continue their operations elsewhere where it would be more affordable for them.

If you've never been to their website before... I highly recommend it.?

KB?DCO
Thomas Gagnon

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: DXMAPS support <service@...>
Date: Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 6:01 AM
Subject: DXMAPS needs your support
To: <kb0dco@...>


Dear Thomas (KB0DCO),

You receive this one-time email as a registered user of .? If you already are a Supporter User and you have received it by mistake please disregard it and accept my apologies.

DXMAPS requires a powerful dedicated server and a fast dedicated connection to Internet in order to offer a good response time and also to avoid service disruptions when there are many users connected simultaneously.

Currently it is running on a server with two Xeon E5-2620 v2 sockets (12 cores and 24 logical processors), 64 GB of RAM and an ultrafast solid state disk, hosted in the datacenter of a well known hosting provider. You can get an idea of the workload of DXMAPS on the page

Unfortunately, due to the decline of online advertising and the reduction in the number of radio amateurs, the yearly cost of renting and maintaining it has not been covered yet, so I have no choice but to ask all users who regularly use DXMAPS services and who can afford it, to voluntarily collaborate with some kind of donation, preferably becoming Supporter Users.

If you want to become a Supporter User and thus collaborate so that DXMAPS can continue giving service in the coming months, please visit

Some of the benefits of being a Supporter User are:
? · No advertising will be shown to you.
? · Your callsign will appear highlighted on a yellow background on the maps.
? · Your callsign will have priority and will be shown on the maps on top of other stations in your own grid square.
? · Up to 50 queries per day to the DX database.
? · Unlimited number of queries to the Callbook and locator database.
? · Unlimited number of E-Mails with propagation alerts.
? · Unlimited number of DX spots sent.
? · Unlimited number of queries to the HF and VHF DX news.
? · Unlimited use of the DX Atlas and the online EME calculator.
? · Furthermore, you will be making possible the maintenance of the server and the implementation of new features in the future!

I know these are hard times for everyone, so if your situation does not allow you to financially support DXMAPS, do not worry, you can continue using the service as until now, at least until we run out of funds.

If at the time you registered as a DXMAPS user, but you are no longer interested in continuing to be one, login yourself at and in the account details click 'Cancel account'.

Many thanks in advance for your possible help!

Gabriel - EA6VQ


Locked W0SW at Renville Co. Fair '23

 

W0SW club will have an information and demonstration booth setup in the exhibition building that is directly East of the main gate at the Renville County Fairgrounds this Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. I will be at the booth Thursday and Friday from 4-9pm. If there's anyone willing to volunteer and man the booth on Wednesday please contact W0AYE
Club or non-club members that would be available to monitor the 146.910- repeater to help with on the air demonstration and open to third party traffic would be greatly appreciated.
If you would like to help or have questions please contact me at w0aye.mn@...

Thanks and 73


Locked Ham Radio Satellite Communications FB Group Invitation.

 

Hello Willmar, Meeker Co. & Crow River Club Members,

I am putting the word out for a new ham radio Satellite Facebook Group. My friend W8CPT, Don and myself have started to organizing this group together.

I have invited some of you directly already. We also will be inviting other hams who we have been heard on the satellites via their emails posted on QRZ to get things rolling.

This message is for the the rest of you for a?place to discuss more about the ham radio satellite topic. And for those who would?might like to possibly try working other hams stations through some of the FM satellites. Mainly the easiest satellite to use is the International Space Station.

Here is the link for those of you that are on Facebook. We are looking forward in you in joining us there.?


I will also make the note here that….? All of you can do this right now with the equipment you already have!?

You can start with a simple 5/8th wave dual band mag mount antenna with a dual band vhf/uhf radio. The freqs are: 145.990 FM with a tone of 67.0 Hz for the uplink. And listen starting at 437.810 to 437.790 as it flys over you. Generally from the west towards the east.

Looking forward in see all of you there!
--
KB?DCO
Thomas Gagnon
Sent from my IPAD 4th Gen. Air Touch


Locked Sibley Park POTA on 10m #contesting #pota

 
Edited

On Saturday, Aug 5th from 9am to 1pm(?) I will be operating Parks On The Air at Sibley State Park by New London to coincide with the International 10-10 contest on the 10 meter band. I'd like to invite anyone interested in operating POTA, HF and/or with a technicians license to come out and join the activity.?

*I will be logging contacts as a POTA activation as I'm not a member of the 10-10?

Ten Ten International Summer QSO Party

The Ten Ten (10-10) International QSO Party is this weekend, beginning at 0000 UTC on Saturday, August 5, and concluding at 2359 UTC on Sunday, August 6. The 10-10 QSO parties are a great way for anyone interested in operating on 10 meters to get on the air. All amateurs with operating privileges on the 10-meter band may participate. For rules and other information about Ten Ten International, visit?.