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PC & VC with CMV & IMV & CSV in one high-pressure system.


 

To be honest, I haven't seen any high pressure O2/Air blenders that are not incorporated into ventilators. The standard method of blending is to use flow regulators

I'm waiting for the UQ hackathon students to publish their projects but several of the 33 teams did look specifically at the challenge of fabricating such a device.

Erich Schulz,?mbbs, mba, fanzca
0410 277 408


On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 12:11, Tom, wb6b <wb6b@...> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 06:47 PM, Steve S wrote:
What is the current proposed method of O2 introduction?
The primary project on this group is using a compressed O2/air mixer device that is apparently part of the normal things around a hospital.

Here is a post that suggest the possibility of using a fuel injector as a valve that can be pulsed at a rapid rate. If a regular solenoid valve was not fast enough to provide small enough bursts of air/O2 for easy mixing.

/g/VentilatorDevelopers/message/1609

Tom, wb6b


 

and to clarify, the flow regulators reduce the pressure so would only work with a pump/bellows style ventilator that represurises the gas.




Erich Schulz,?mbbs, mba, fanzca
0410 277 408


On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 12:39, Erich Schulz via <erichbschulz=[email protected]> wrote:
To be honest, I haven't seen any high pressure O2/Air blenders that are not incorporated into ventilators. The standard method of blending is to use flow regulators

I'm waiting for the UQ hackathon students to publish their projects but several of the 33 teams did look specifically at the challenge of fabricating such a device.

Erich Schulz,?mbbs, mba, fanzca
0410 277 408


On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 12:11, Tom, wb6b <wb6b@...> wrote:
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 06:47 PM, Steve S wrote:
What is the current proposed method of O2 introduction?
The primary project on this group is using a compressed O2/air mixer device that is apparently part of the normal things around a hospital.

Here is a post that suggest the possibility of using a fuel injector as a valve that can be pulsed at a rapid rate. If a regular solenoid valve was not fast enough to provide small enough bursts of air/O2 for easy mixing.

/g/VentilatorDevelopers/message/1609

Tom, wb6b


 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 07:39 PM, Erich Schulz wrote:
To be honest, I haven't seen any high pressure O2/Air blenders that are not incorporated into ventilators.
Very interesting to know. Sounds like your hackathon students may provide a useful component here. And, additionally, many other useful solutions.

Tom, wb6b


 

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The only external device I can think of is a high flow nasal canula system which might be able to provide adequate flow for a ventilator and might be readily available.?


 

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Our respiratory therapists have them routinely if memory serves me correctly ? Here is an example Of one on the market that I found by googling¡ª I found several ?




On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:52, Steve S <skol0016@...> wrote:

?Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The only external device I can think of is a high flow nasal canula system which might be able to provide adequate flow for a ventilator and might be readily available.?


 

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:54, Gordon Gibby via groups.io <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:

?Our respiratory therapists have them routinely if memory serves me correctly ? Here is an example Of one on the market that I found by googling¡ª I found several ?

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:52, Steve S <skol0016@...> wrote:

?Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The only external device I can think of is a high flow nasal canula system which might be able to provide adequate flow for a ventilator and might be readily available.?


 

They look very suitable Gordon, just checking that someone has checked stock levels/delivery times for these?

Erich Schulz,?mbbs, mba, fanzca
0410 277 408


On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Gordon Gibby <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:



On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:54, Gordon Gibby via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:

?Our respiratory therapists have them routinely if memory serves me correctly ? Here is an example Of one on the market that I found by googling¡ª I found several ?

<image0.png>



On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:52, Steve S <skol0016@...> wrote:

?Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The only external device I can think of is a high flow nasal canula system which might be able to provide adequate flow for a ventilator and might be readily available.?


 

Hi,? I'm sorry, I have no idea of availability.? ? ? It didn't seem to be an issue locally, but it is something that should be considered.? ?Grainger carries an industrial version.? ?



On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:00 PM Erich Schulz <erichbschulz@...> wrote:
They look very suitable Gordon, just checking that someone has checked stock levels/delivery times for these?

Erich Schulz,?mbbs, mba, fanzca
0410 277 408


On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Gordon Gibby <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:



On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:54, Gordon Gibby via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:

?Our respiratory therapists have them routinely if memory serves me correctly ? Here is an example Of one on the market that I found by googling¡ª I found several ?

<image0.png>



On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:52, Steve S <skol0016@...> wrote:

?Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The only external device I can think of is a high flow nasal canula system which might be able to provide adequate flow for a ventilator and might be readily available.?


 

These are exactly the devices I was thinking of. Great minds and all that...

Steve S