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Re: Valve driver

 

thanks!? ?I think I saw someone testing this type shield here somewhere.??
Gordon


Re: P Sensor mounting

 

thanks, great idea!

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:14 PM KD8CGH <rkayakr@...> wrote:
I suggest that the pressure sensor be mounted in a 1" PVC T with a threaded leg using a threaded cap. The sensor can be mounted in the cap and wires brought out through a hole easily drilled in the flat cap. If the sensor fails it can be easily replaced.


Re: A Ventilator mask

 

That will be useful for people who merely need increased oxygen concentration due to SHUNT in their lungs induced by the pneumonia.
But there are much easier ways to do it that are routinely used in the hospital.

The people who are REALLY in trouble require intubation, because putting a plastic tube directly into the Trachea reduces the "dead space" which allows more effective eliimination of carbon dioxide....important in people who have very stiff lungs from pneumonia.? ?The scuba divvers mask by contrast will INCREASE the dead space, which s a problem.

So the need is moslly for buiding the VENTILATOR because endotracheal tubes are cheap.? ?They aare little mmore than a fancy short garden hose.??
Gordon Gibby MD KX4Z


Re: RS-232 connector is a problem

 

Ashar -- what about gluing a connector to the top of the sensor chip?? ?Then we coud just use a thin tube to go to the airway circuit, which is the NORM in anesthesia and intensitve unit care.? ?All the differential pressure sensors already have the nipple -- this device was made to sense ambient pressure so it didnt have it.

Gordon


P Sensor mounting

 

I suggest that the pressure sensor be mounted in a 1" PVC T with a threaded leg using a threaded cap. The sensor can be mounted in the cap and wires brought out through a hole easily drilled in the flat cap. If the sensor fails it can be easily replaced.


Passive valves

 

I'm working on the three passive valves (Anti-Asphyxia, Over-Pressure, PEEP). The approach is to 3D print parts that are attached to 1" PVS pipe Ts. I think that the pressure sensor should also be installed in a T. I'm designing poppet valves with 45 degree seats that have a rubber O-ring embedded. The 1 1/16" OD x 3/32" diameter O-ring is a common hardware store item for faucet valve repair.
The designs are done in OpenSCAD which is freely available and completely parametric. My devices are printed in PETG on a Prusa Research MK3s.
Attached are some pix of the first design. The next design iteration is printing.
I tested the Anti-Asphyxia valve and I'm happy to report I was not asphyxiated.


Re: RS-232 connector is a problem

 

Dear friends?
Yes most commercial connectors will leak.?
I have designed several medical /products for defence. I could help?

Please let me know how many pin connector do you need??
Also trying to seal it with hot glue is not good.?
Please use a good RTV paste.?
Dow Corning is an approved? product.?
There are others too.?

73?
Kumar


On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, 20:39 Ron Taylor via Groups.Io, <cumbriadesigns=[email protected]> wrote:
From my experiences in building cave radios most connectors leak like this. The idea to pass the wiring through a hole ( with grommet) and seal sounds like the most effective low cost option.

Regards

Ron Taylor G4GXO


Valve driver

 

I mentioned using an Ardunio shield to drive the valve. One class of these boards uses the L293D driver chip, which is rated at 600 ma per a channel on the 4 channel device, with a maximum voltage of 36 volts. This is well de-rated for this application. The board has 16v electrolytic caps on it, so for 12 or 13.6 volts it is fine. The caps would need to be changed if 15 volts is used. I have done this for higher voltage operation in the past with no issues. The particular one that I have is a HiLetgo L293D, but a number of companies make these. The diode should be added to protect the device, otherwise no other mods needed. It can either be added with the valve's leads at the connector, or soldered directly to the board. I used this for a project to open/close car door locks, which electrically is a similar application.

Howard


Layout

 

Draft of layout with connectors
??? Bob? KD8CGH


Re: Drivers, pcb vs. assembled parts.

 

thanks for running those tests!? good information!!
gordon


A Ventilator mask

 

I was referred?to this by KP, the anesthesist.



Re: RS-232 connector is a problem

Ron Taylor
 

From my experiences in building cave radios most connectors leak like this. The idea to pass the wiring through a hole ( with grommet) and seal sounds like the most effective low cost option.

Regards

Ron Taylor G4GXO


Drivers, pcb vs. assembled parts.

 

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Well, good to have a group for this.

- Today I've been testing the ic drivers, since I have some parts them at the office and I had some spare time. I'm attaching the schematic I've been using. I had also solenoid valves to test, but their measured internal resistance is 17 Ohms, lower than the 43 Ohms of Gordon's tests.
I let it cycle for a few hours, using square waves generators as inputs, and the ic temperature remained a bit above ambient. Then I pushed the supply to 18V,? and let it cycle for half an hour, and the ic temp stabilized to about 50¡ãC. I assume conditions here are above the real parameters. If the group agrees I may continue with testing with more severe conditions and specific timings, I look forward for your input.
- As per the pcb vs. assembled parts issue, I lean toward designing a proper pcb for the machine. Assembling commercial parts found on Amazon etc. opens the door to several problems of dependability, of the single parts and of the assembled ones (connectors issues, heat managenent and noise problems when you put power or I/O shields over the Arduino, etc.). A decent PCB design does not take weeks and a board can be ordered from the company making it from anywhere, along with standard parts from RS, Farnell Digikey, etc.
I'm shure we can find a pcb manufacturing company that can be interested in being part of this project's devalopment.?
I'd like to hear your opinion on this.

Raf IZ1HNY


RS-232 connector is a problem

 

Folks,
I tried out the RS-232 9 pin connector. It is leaky as hell. Try this (at home). Take a 9 pin connector and suck at it. If you can feel the air? rush into your mouth, you know it leaky. Get to work with hotglue gun. That's what I am doing now. But we can't use the connector across the pressurised barrier. It might be easier to just stuff the four wires through a small hole and hot glue the hole.
- farhan


University of Minnesota Coventor project

 



This device represents a rapidly scalable opportunity for healthcare providers to provide life sustaining mechanical ventilation to patients for whom no other option currently exists.

This mechanical ventilator is simple to use for ICU-trained medical providers, it is compact (the size of a cereal box) and relatively inexpensive to manufacture and distribute. This device does not require a pressurized oxygen or air supply unlike commercially available mechanical ventilators. In collaboration between the University of Minnesota and local industry leaders, we are able to acquire the necessary components and assemble thousands of ventilators per week to start. All ventilators will currently ship from Minneapolis, Minnesota.

Components

The proposed system consists of a frame and mechanical actuator to stabilize and compress a commercially available ambulatory ventilation bag connected to the patient¡¯s endotracheal tube and external compressed oxygen, or if oxygen is not available, ambient air.

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Assembly

The frame can be metal stamped, 3D printed, or modified consumer goods.


-I have no affiliation with this project. This project appears to have a higher target cost of $1500 each. I am still posting this on the chance someone finds inspiration in their design or has skills that could help their project too.

Doug
AC9RZ

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Video of Marcelo's UI

 

Marcelo has changed his interface a little. You can view his video here:
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Jack, W8TEE


The Group is Active

 

All:

Please use our group for all communiques from now on, as it will give us a better way to organize information and share ideas.

Jack, W8TEE