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?? ? Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC? http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/ http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html ============================ From: "betwys1@... [VacuumX]" To: VacuumX@... Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:25 PM Subject: [VacuumX] Past Its Hay-Day?
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Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealth of insight too! Think a Yahoo re-org had something to do with it.
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On 11/12/2017 10:25 PM, betwys1@... [VacuumX] wrote:
Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealthIt should definitely be moved, probably to groups.io like the rest of the Yahoo! groups, before it disappears completely. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
The has been fine for the interferometry group for a few years now.?? Drew in sunny FLA On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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Well, let’s generate some traffic! ? About 25 years ago I worked at a small thin film R&D outfit in Ventura CA. It was the most fun job I’ve had. Part of it was maintaining the sputtering system that was central to the whole operation. It had a 5HP mechanical roughing pump followed by a small turbo. Turbo was connected to the load lock chamber. The sputtering chamber itself was pumped by a cryo. It was a two target Gartek sputtering system. A shuttle system, magnetically coupled to an external drive, moved a pallet holding the wafer to be coated from the load lock to the first position - a water-cooled table that raised up to hold the pallet. Bellows allowed the motion in the vacuum. Once the cryo took the chamber down to 10^-6 Torr (ion & pirani gauges) the chamber was flooded with a small amount of Argon. A magnetron target above the wafer was then energized with either 13.56 MHz RF if it was a dielectric target or DC HV for conductive target. The resulting plasma sputtered the atoms from the target to the wafer. When that was done the wafer on the pallet could be moved farther into the system to the next table and target for the next material coating. We sputtered Gold, Palladium, Titanium, Titanium-Tungsten, Copper, and some dielectrics that I don’t recall. I wrote the software that ran the system in Forth (the boss liked Forth) rebuilt each pump, designed the load lock door and target magnets, and so on. Thus began my love of vacuum science. Now I have a small diffusion pumped system in my home shop, just for fun. ? The gurgle of a roughing pump, the whine of an accelerating turbo, the throbbing of a cryo cold head drive. Music to my ears. WA6EJO ? |
开云体育All Yahoo groups have been dwindling for years
now.
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Google and Bing/MS stopped searching and indexing Yahoo Groups
so new members have become nearly nonexistent.
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You can try it yourself.? Do a Google search for things
that you KNOW can be found in Yahoo groups but don't use either the word "Yahoo"
or word "Group."
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-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer Summit Kinetics Waikoloa, HI 96738
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So where is THE place to go for information now?? I have been lurking for years and collecting various equipment, waiting for the time when I have space to set up rigs for experiments and such. On Nov 13, 2017 1:39 PM, "'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [VacuumX]" <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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开云体育IMHO, Yahoo groups is still as good as it gets, for
now.
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Who knows what the future holds.
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I am a mod on Cloudy Nights.? They already have an ATM
forum but I could ask if they are willing to add a vacuum forum.? Odds are
probably not good for getting one though.
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-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer Summit Kinetics Waikoloa, HI 96738
? From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:06 AM To: VacuumX@... Subject: RE: [VacuumX] Past Its Hay-Day? So where is THE place to go for information now?? I have been lurking
for years and collecting various equipment, waiting for the time when I have
space to set up rigs for experiments and such.
On Nov 13, 2017 1:39 PM, "'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@...
[VacuumX]" <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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Steve J. Noll
开云体育Well, let’s generate some traffic! ? About 25 years ago I worked at a small thin film R&D outfit in Ventura CA. It was the most fun job I’ve had. Part of it was maintaining the sputtering system that was central to the whole operation. It had a 5HP mechanical roughing pump followed by a small turbo. Turbo was connected to the load lock chamber. The sputtering chamber itself was pumped by a cryo. It was a two target Gartek sputtering system. A shuttle system, magnetically coupled to an external drive, moved a pallet holding the wafer to be coated from the load lock to the first position - a water-cooled table that raised up to hold the pallet. Bellows allowed the motion in the vacuum. Once the cryo took the chamber down to 10^-6 Torr (ion & pirani gauges) the chamber was flooded with a small amount of Argon. A magnetron target above the wafer was then energized with either 13.56 MHz RF if it was a dielectric target or DC HV for conductive target. The resulting plasma sputtered the atoms from the target to the wafer. When that was done the wafer on the pallet could be moved farther into the system to the next table and target for the next material coating. We sputtered Gold, Palladium, Titanium, Titanium-Tungsten, Copper, and some dielectrics that I don’t recall. I wrote the software that ran the system in Forth (the boss liked Forth) rebuilt each pump, designed the load lock door and target magnets, and so on. Thus began my love of vacuum science. Now I have a small diffusion pumped system in my home shop, just for fun. ? The gurgle of a roughing pump, the whine of an accelerating turbo, the throbbing of a cryo cold head drive. Music to my ears. Steve WA6EJO |
On 11/14/2017 12:12 PM, 'Christopher Erickson'
christopher.k.erickson@... [VacuumX] wrote: IMHO, Yahoo groups is still as good as it gets, for now.Eh. Who knows what the future holds.Most of the Yahoo Groups folks have migrated to groups.io. It was built as a replacement for Yahoo Groups, when Yahoo started really going downhill business-wise. It was built by the original developer of the Yahoo Groups system, and is very good; it has some nice migration tools that can be used to move group files, even archives I think. It's good stuff. (I don't work for them or anything, I'm just a very happy user) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |