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A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know if anybody on this list has tried the stuff. ? Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html
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On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote: A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
if anybody on this list has tried the stuff. I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
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--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire <Mcguire@...> wrote:
On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
if anybody on this list has tried the stuff. I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
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Hi,
The aime for sure is to do it before aluminize. Is it enough to wash with alconax before and then to alumining or the mirror must be whashed with something else ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
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It must be rinsed with water. Sometimes?I find a haze which must be rubbed off with a much-laundered cotton cloth.
?
Hi,
The aime for sure is to do it before aluminize. Is it enough to wash with alconax before and then to alumining or the mirror must be whashed with something else ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
=
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Hi,
That's the only think to do ? Whashed with alconox then water and the, in the belljare ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
It must be rinsed with water. Sometimes?I find a haze which must be rubbed off with a much-laundered cotton cloth.
?
Hi,
The aime for sure is to do it before aluminize. Is it enough to wash with alconax before and then to alumining or the mirror must be whashed with something else ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
=
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Hi again,
At the end the book is out, have a look here :? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire <Mcguire@...> wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
|
You need to make sure it's very very very clean before putting it in the bell jar. There are lots of methods used by different people. Some use a slurry of pure calcium carbonate precipitate with water. I examine how the water flows off the mirror. If I see raindrops like on a window then it's dirty. If the water flows off like a sheet with no holes then it's clean.
Guy
?
Hi,
That's the only think to do ? Whashed with alconox then water and the, in the belljare ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
<gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
It must be rinsed with water. Sometimes?I find a haze which must be rubbed off with a much-laundered cotton cloth.
?
Hi,
The aime for sure is to do it before aluminize. Is it enough to wash with alconax before and then to alumining or the mirror must be whashed with something else ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
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=
=
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Great! Not too many Americans will be able to read them, however. I wonder how much it will cost to order them and have them shipped to the USA. Formidable! (en francais - en anglais ca ne veut rien dire!) ? Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html
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From: Charles Rydel
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
Hi again,
At the end the book is out, have a look here :?http://www.astrosurf.com/telastrograf/ ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
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around 30$ I presume. You can buy it trough astrosurf or Amazon.fr (not US !) ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
Great! Not too many Americans will be able to read them, however. I wonder how much it will cost to order them and have them shipped to the USA. Formidable! (en francais - en anglais ca ne veut rien dire!) ? Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html
============================
From: Charles Rydel
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
Hi again,
At the end the book is out, have a look here :?http://www.astrosurf.com/telastrograf/ ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
|
Calcium carbonate is chalk. Pure alcool can help too. What I want is to obviate the use of nitric acide. ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
To: "VacuumX@..."
Cc: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You need to make sure it's very very very clean before putting it in the bell jar. There are lots of methods used by different people. Some use a slurry of pure calcium carbonate precipitate with water. I examine how the water flows off the mirror. If I see raindrops like on a window then it's dirty. If the water flows off like a sheet with no holes then it's clean.
Guy
?
Hi,
That's the only think to do ? Whashed with alconox then water and the, in the belljare ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
<gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
It must be rinsed with water. Sometimes?I find a haze which must be rubbed off with a much-laundered cotton cloth.
?
Hi,
The aime for sure is to do it before aluminize. Is it enough to wash with alconax before and then to alumining or the mirror must be whashed with something else ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
=
=
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Some people do use nitric acid, but I think it's too scary, and not necessary either. Yes, some places, like Mount Wilson, do use chalk aka calcium carbonate to help with the cleaning. When I switched to alconox, I found the CaCO3 no longer necessary at all. ? Guy Brandenburg, Washington, DC?
http://gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~gfbranden/GFB_Home_Page.html
============================
From: Charles Rydel
To: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
Calcium carbonate is chalk. Pure alcool can help too. What I want is to obviate the use of nitric acide. ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..."
Cc: "VacuumX@..."
Sent: Sunday,
September 16, 2012 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You need to make sure it's very very very clean before putting it in the bell jar. There are lots of methods used by different people. Some use a slurry of pure calcium carbonate precipitate with water. I examine how the water flows off the mirror. If I see raindrops like on a window then it's dirty. If the water flows off like a sheet with no holes then it's clean.
Guy
?
Hi,
That's the only think to do ? Whashed with alconox then water and the, in the belljare ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg
<gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
It must be rinsed with water. Sometimes?I find a haze which must be rubbed off with a much-laundered cotton cloth.
?
Hi,
The aime for sure is to do it before aluminize. Is it enough to wash with alconax before and then to alumining or the mirror must be whashed with something else ? ? Bien ¨¤ vous,
Charles Rydel
From: Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@...>
To: "VacuumX@..." <VacuumX@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: New washing detergent for mirrors prior to aluminizing
?
You use the alconox solution BEFORE aluminizing. Or at least that's what we did. I suspect, but do not know for sure, that if you use it on an already-aluminizers mirror, it might remove the aluminum.
Guy
?
Hi,
I am a newcomer interested in that stuff.
I would have been interesred to know if I could directly after that aluminize thz mirror or I will have something to do ?
Charles Rydel
--- In VacuumX@..., Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> On 07/12/2012 01:03 AM, Guy Brandenburg wrote:
> > A friend of mine suggested Alconox as a new cleaning agent for use on
> > mirrors prior to aluminization. I have tried it and found that it seems
> > to work many, many times faster and more effectively at producing a
> > mirror that the water flows off of like a sheet. No other detergent
> > comes close. Nobody paid me anything for this testimonial; I don't know
> > if anybody on this list has tried the stuff.
>
> I second this recommendation. I've used Alconox for years to clean
> lab glassware and related items. It's good stuff.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
> New Kensington, PA
>
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Dave McGuire