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Vara with Pin Point APRS


 

Has anybody been successful running Pin Point APRS on Vara HF?
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I can use a Kantronics Kam XL ,with Pin Point, and send a position report to my 30M AX25 packet receiving station ok. So, I know Pin Point is set up properly.?
When I switch to Pin Point using Vara and send a position packet the Vara tones go out on the connected transceiver. However, the tones run for about 18 seconds (way to long). No position is reported through my 30M Vara receiving station.?
My 30M Vara station hears most of the traffic in the US including WA8LMF-5.
I am testing Pin Point connected tp a transceiver running 10 watts to a dummy load ao as not to overload either of my Vara or AX25 stations.
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Any comments on a fix are appreciated.
Wayne
Wa5luy-10 AX25 Packet
Wa5luy-11 Vara?
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On 11/18/2024 3:49 PM, wa5luy wrote:
Has anybody been successful running Pin Point APRS on Vara HF?
?
I can use a Kantronics Kam XL ,with Pin Point, and send a position report to my 30M AX25 packet receiving station ok. So, I know Pin Point is set up properly.?
When I switch to Pin Point using Vara and send a position packet the Vara tones go out on the connected transceiver. However, the tones run for about 18 seconds (way to long). No position is reported through my 30M Vara receiving station.?
My 30M Vara station hears most of the traffic in the US including WA8LMF-5.
I am testing Pin Point connected tp a transceiver running 10 watts to a dummy load ao as not to overload either of my Vara or AX25 stations.
?
Any comments on a fix are appreciated.
Wayne
Wa5luy-10 AX25 Packet
Wa5luy-11 Vara?
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How are you linking PinPoint to VARA??? Note that VARA doesn't support traditional serial com port connections (real or virtual) like the KAM does.? One way or another, you have to connect KISS-over-IP from PinPoint to VARA,? on both the test setup, and on the actual off-air receive setup. ? PinPoint, APRS-is32,? and YAAC can do this natively - no "middleware" kludges are required. )

Could you inadvertently have one station on USB and the other on LSB?

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I have successfully linked the two via KISS-over-IP.?? Note that the VARA transmission wraps the KISS packet in a couple of layers of forward error correction - as a result, the transmitted packet is much longer than one over classic AX.25 packet.?

[My main off-air? RX/TX/igate setup uses UIview using KISS-over-serial linked to VARA using KISS-over-IP connected via the VSPE (Virtual Serial Ports Emulator) IP<-->serial converter.? This is connected to a Yaesu FT-891 transceiver via a homebrew tone-activated interface.???
??? The local test setup used a Panasonic Toughbook CX-53 laptop.? PinPoint was direct KISS-over-IP linked to VARA.? In turn, the TX audio was coupled to a Yaesu FT-818 5-watt "porta-luggie" transceiver via a SignaLink USB interface.? I have also tested with a Yaesu SCU-17, a DigiRig and one of my homebrew tone-activated interfaces.???? It worked with all of them.]

Details of these hookups is here on my website:

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Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:?????????

APRS-over-VARA igates now operating on 30 & 60 meters
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"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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I had it working with my Surface Go tablet and Yaesu 991A. I had to replace the tablet now nothing. Cant get VARA to show the PTT menu even though PinPoint says TNC connected.


John Madden
N4EJM
DMR ID 3165878
Hamshack Hotline 6102039

On Nov 18, 2024, at 4:17?PM, WA8LMF via groups.io <wa8lmf3@...> wrote:

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On 11/18/2024 3:49 PM, wa5luy wrote:
Has anybody been successful running Pin Point APRS on Vara HF?
?
I can use a Kantronics Kam XL ,with Pin Point, and send a position report to my 30M AX25 packet receiving station ok. So, I know Pin Point is set up properly.?
When I switch to Pin Point using Vara and send a position packet the Vara tones go out on the connected transceiver. However, the tones run for about 18 seconds (way to long). No position is reported through my 30M Vara receiving station.?
My 30M Vara station hears most of the traffic in the US including WA8LMF-5.
I am testing Pin Point connected tp a transceiver running 10 watts to a dummy load ao as not to overload either of my Vara or AX25 stations.
?
Any comments on a fix are appreciated.
Wayne
Wa5luy-10 AX25 Packet
Wa5luy-11 Vara?
?


How are you linking PinPoint to VARA??? Note that VARA doesn't support traditional serial com port connections (real or virtual) like the KAM does.? One way or another, you have to connect KISS-over-IP from PinPoint to VARA,? on both the test setup, and on the actual off-air receive setup. ? PinPoint, APRS-is32,? and YAAC can do this natively - no "middleware" kludges are required. )

Could you inadvertently have one station on USB and the other on LSB?

?

I have successfully linked the two via KISS-over-IP.?? Note that the VARA transmission wraps the KISS packet in a couple of layers of forward error correction - as a result, the transmitted packet is much longer than one over classic AX.25 packet.?

[My main off-air? RX/TX/igate setup uses UIview using KISS-over-serial linked to VARA using KISS-over-IP connected via the VSPE (Virtual Serial Ports Emulator) IP<-->serial converter.? This is connected to a Yaesu FT-891 transceiver via a homebrew tone-activated interface.???
??? The local test setup used a Panasonic Toughbook CX-53 laptop.? PinPoint was direct KISS-over-IP linked to VARA.? In turn, the TX audio was coupled to a Yaesu FT-818 5-watt "porta-luggie" transceiver via a SignaLink USB interface.? I have also tested with a Yaesu SCU-17, a DigiRig and one of my homebrew tone-activated interfaces.???? It worked with all of them.]

Details of these hookups is here on my website:

???



Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:?????????

APRS-over-VARA igates now operating on 30 & 60 meters
??

"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
??


 

I am linking Pin Point to Vara Kiss over IP on the transmitting station. I have tried Vara to a Signalink and a DRA 30. Set both levels correctly. Vara tones sound good over the air. Both stations USB. Both results same when sending a position beacon.?
I am hearing your station and Igating it most of the time. My recieve station uses Ui-View connected to Vara via VSPE. The sound card is a DRA-30.
In listening to your vara tones over the air the transmission is longer than AX 25 but when I send a beacon it's much longer than yours. By the way I tried YAAC with the same results.
Any other Ideas?
Wayne