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Running VARA FM and Packet (Soundmodem) as digipeaters on the same machine

Patrick Dickey All Messages By This Member #9350 Hi, everyone, I would like to set up a digipeater running both VARA FM and Soundmodem on the same computer with the same radio. We have an RMS that can receive both on the same frequency, but it's hard to reach for a few operators. I have a spare radio and computer lying around that I could set up for this. My questions are, will this work, and what steps do I need to take to do it? I know that each works individually as a digipeater, but I haven't tried running both of them at the same time. ? If necessary for the PTT function, I can use Omnirig to control that. Currently each program handles it on their own. Thank you and have a great day. :) Patrick.
WA8LMF All Messages By This Member #9351 开云体育 On 5/3/2025 8:47 AM, Patrick Dickey via groups.io wrote: Hi, everyone, I would like to set up a digipeater running both VARA FM and Soundmodem on the same computer with the same radio. We have an RMS that can receive both on the same frequency, but it's hard to reach for a few operators. I have a spare radio and computer lying around that I could set up for this. My questions are, will this work, and what steps do I need to take to do it? I know that each works individually as a digipeater, but I haven't tried running both of them at the same time. ? If necessary for the PTT function, I can use Omnirig to control that. Currently each program handles it on their own. ? There is no problem running multiple apps on the same sound card simultaneously.? (I have had as many as 4 soundcard apps using the same sound system simultaneously.) ? The key is in the sound RX and TX setting dialogs "Advanced" tab.? Be sure the check box for "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" is unchecked. ?? And in each app, set the PTT COM port to "0" or "VOX" ? The headache is in PTT keying.?? By far the simplest way to do this is to use a VOX-activated interface like a TigerTronics Signalink or the New Zealand-made USB RigLink. This way you totally avoid having to screw around with conflicting calls to the same COM port. Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page:????????? "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels ?? Studio B will be in the EMCOMMS Vehicle Expo at the Dayton Hamvention? 16-17 May,? with multiple VARA operations running simultaneously ? ? - APRS over VARA? -- ?? - ?
Allen Bottorff All Messages By This Member #9352 开云体育 Totally agree! I used to utilize comports exclusively? also, running multiple apps, however, after using VOX activation feature, it operates so well, I have no need? nor want?for comports. ? Eliminates lot's of headaches and goes back to? the old adage, KISS; Keep It Simple Stud 73 toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of WA8LMF via groups.io <wa8lmf3@...> Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2025 20:20 To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:** Re: [VARA-MODEM] Running VARA FM and Packet (Soundmodem) as digipeaters on the same machine ? On 5/3/2025 8:47 AM, Patrick Dickey via groups.io wrote: Hi, everyone, I would like to set up a digipeater running both VARA FM and Soundmodem on the same computer with the same radio. We have an RMS that can receive both on the same frequency, but it's hard to reach for a few operators. I have a spare radio and computer lying around that I could set up for this. My questions are, will this work, and what steps do I need to take to do it? I know that each works individually as a digipeater, but I haven't tried running both of them at the same time. ? If necessary for the PTT function, I can use Omnirig to control that. Currently each program handles it on their own. ? There is no problem running multiple apps on the same sound card simultaneously.? (I have had as many as 4 soundcard apps using the same sound system simultaneously.) ? The key is in the sound RX and TX setting dialogs "Advanced" tab.? Be sure the check box for "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" is unchecked. ?? And in each app, set the PTT COM port to "0" or "VOX" ? The headache is in PTT keying.?? By far the simplest way to do this is to use a VOX-activated interface like a TigerTronics Signalink or the New Zealand-made USB RigLink. This way you totally avoid having to screw around with conflicting calls to the same COM port. Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page:????????? "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels ?? Studio B will be in the EMCOMMS Vehicle Expo at the Dayton Hamvention? 16-17 May,? with multiple VARA operations running simultaneously ? ? - APRS over VARA? -- ?? - ?
Pierre Martel All Messages By This Member #9353 Sounds simple, But I see a collision in your future. If some data is received by one of?the?software by network and needs to be sent OTA . while another software is also repeating a local payload. you will have both signals mixing in and sent by the radio. I never tested such a strange signal. But I don't?think any of the receiving stations will be able to decode their respective signals.? Now if this happen from time to time, it could be ok but lets say both network send a lot of data, none will work most of the time.? Just my 2 cents.? Pierre VE2PF toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 5:02?AM Allen Bottorff via <ac9eb=[email protected]> wrote: Totally agree! I used to utilize comports exclusively? also, running multiple apps, however, after using VOX activation feature, it operates so well, I have no need? nor want?for comports. ? Eliminates lot's of headaches and goes back to? the old adage, KISS; Keep It Simple Stud 73 From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of WA8LMF via <wa8lmf3=[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2025 20:20 To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:** Re: [VARA-MODEM] Running VARA FM and Packet (Soundmodem) as digipeaters on the same machine ? On 5/3/2025 8:47 AM, Patrick Dickey via wrote: Hi, everyone, I would like to set up a digipeater running both VARA FM and Soundmodem on the same computer with the same radio. We have an RMS that can receive both on the same frequency, but it's hard to reach for a few operators. I have a spare radio and computer lying around that I could set up for this. My questions are, will this work, and what steps do I need to take to do it? I know that each works individually as a digipeater, but I haven't tried running both of them at the same time. ? If necessary for the PTT function, I can use Omnirig to control that. Currently each program handles it on their own. ? There is no problem running multiple apps on the same sound card simultaneously.? (I have had as many as 4 soundcard apps using the same sound system simultaneously.) ? The key is in the sound RX and TX setting dialogs "Advanced" tab.? Be sure the check box for "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" is unchecked. ?? And in each app, set the PTT COM port to "0" or "VOX" ? The headache is in PTT keying.?? By far the simplest way to do this is to use a VOX-activated interface like a TigerTronics Signalink or the New Zealand-made USB RigLink. This way you totally avoid having to screw around with conflicting calls to the same COM port. Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page:????????? "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels ?? Studio B will be in the EMCOMMS Vehicle Expo at the Dayton Hamvention? 16-17 May,? with multiple VARA operations running simultaneously ? ? - APRS over VARA? -- ?? - ?
Brian - W7OWO All Messages By This Member #9354 Look at Winlink.org's article on "RMS Packet gateway, dual mode Vara FM and AX.25 packet". ? If you are looking to use a digipeater only; ignore the whole section on RMS Packet setup and just follow the setup for the Packet software TNC and VARA FM. ? I would avoid any sound card radio interface that uses serial port features for FM, in particular if you want two devices operating at the same time.? VOX works well, but in the 7 systems that I support having dual mode digipeaters, only one uses VOX.? I prefer using the devices that use the C-Media Hardware PTT, all but one use one of the MastersCommunications DRA series. A low-power portable system uses a DigiRig Lite.? ? Since you are setting up a system, I'd recommend installing the RMS Packet Software and RMS Relay.? Just configure the RMS Relay to be a standalone Post Office on your digipeater as well.? Just give it a different SSID.? The Post Office allows for folks that are aware of it to leave a message for another Ham, and when that Ham connects to the Post Office, they will receive the message.? No Special Session Types or Message Types like P2P and Radio Only require.? Just standard Winlink Sessions and Standard Winlink messages.? No internet required. ? Brian - W7OWO
Patrick Dickey All Messages By This Member #9355 I will check out their PDF. I think I had it open at one point. And I use an XGComms customized usb-digimode (CMedia) interface right now. ? Thank you for the information and suggestions. Patrick.

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