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PinPoint with Vara HF problem.

 

I have two stations running PinPoint with Vara on 30M. Both are acting the same. I noticed that when PinPoint is connected to APRS-IS all I see on raw data are position reports through the internet. When APRS-IS is not connected I see stations all over the country I-Gating my position.

My station is sending position reports on APRS-IS and over RF at the same time. I verified this but with Vara I have no idea what is sent with the internet connected.

I have been in communication with Frank, AB0WV, PinPoint developer, about this.

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I would appreciate hearing from anyone else running PinPoint with Vara about this problem. Are you seeing the same thing on your station?

Example below.

Wayne WA5LUY

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2025-01-07 02:02:19 CST:?>APIN21,TCPIP*,qAC,T2USANW:!3428.23N\09307.26W-VARA?I-Gate
2025-01-07 02:22:19 CST:?>APIN21,TCPIP*,qAC,T2USANW:!3428.23N\09307.26W-VARA?I-Gate
2025-01-07 02:42:19 CST:?>APIN21,TCPIP*,qAC,T2USANW:!3428.23N\09307.26W-VARA?I-Gate
2025-01-07 03:02:39 CST:?>APIN21,APRS,qAR,:!3428.23N\09307.26W-VARA?I-Gate
2025-01-07 03:22:39 CST:?>APIN21,APRS,qAR,:!3428.23N\09307.26W-VARA?I-Gate
2025-01-07 03:23:28 CST:?>APIN21,APRS,qAR,:!3428.23N\09307.26W-VARA?I-Gate

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Some years ago I was the author of APRS Messenger.
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It's main feature was to send APRS beacons and messages over PSK, GMSK and MFSK modes on HF.
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One feature I added to it was a timer to delay the beacon sent to the APRS-IS by 10 seconds so that the RF sent beacon heard by an igate would be sent to the APRS-IS first.
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This worked really well
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You could view the raw packet data on APRS.FI and see all the stations who heard your beacons and if it was a direct APRS-IS beacon from your station it meant that no igate had heard that beacon.
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If you are in contact with the author of Pinpoint maybe you could ask him to add it as an option?
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It would be an idea to time how long it takes to send a typical VARA APRS beacon first to get the right timing between RF and APRS-IS beacons.
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10 seconds was OK for MFSK-16 beacons but VARA may be slower.
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Regards,
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Chris GM4HYG
 

On 40m, almost all of us do RF beacons only. We never send it to the servers. That way as you described, we can see who has heard us. Why not just go this route? Very is very slow for sure, so things definitely do have to be done differently.?

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