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Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Replying to your questions: ?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio? W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs. ?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients? W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect. Suggestions: 1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use. It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25. 2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments. 3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio) Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
Randy, W3RWN
Burien, WA
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis < markad7ef@...> wrote: Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Jerome, Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other? I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via <jerome.kutche= [email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
Let me work on that.. It easier to do then explain.. give me a few minutes.. 73
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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
In BPQ you would have 2 ports… Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF… But I can help you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has
an interlock comment… INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link it would be either or. But at any given moment either would
be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
I have other config files at home where I have had VARA FM and UZ7HO running I will gather those up? on Saturday..
?
Anyway you can run both on one radio… But one at a time all controlled by BPQ. Anagin it knows which mode Is trying to connect and connects when asked. Or if
outgoing you use the ATTACH (port#) and then c callsign… 73
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
OK, But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit. For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user. So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via <jerome.kutche= [email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports… Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF… But I can help you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has
an interlock comment… INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link it would be either or. But at any given moment either would
be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Interesting I have never had my VARA HF or FM setup. Respond to another station while operating any other mode. I'm off work this week end will do some testing.? But as busy as things are surely i would have seen this... i heard this claim. But never seen it ..?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Randy Neals <randy@...> Date: 5/16/20 2:51 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK, But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit. For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user. So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via <jerome.kutche= [email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports… Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF… But I can help you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has
an interlock comment… INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link it would be either or. But at any given moment either would
be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
I do not at this time run VARA FM.. But I can I have a Signalink setting next to my extra 2 Meter rig.. Ill do some testing…
?
My Earlier email was based on VARA HF..
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jerome Kutche
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 4:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Interesting I have never had my VARA HF or FM setup. Respond to another station while operating any other mode. I'm off work this week end will do some testing.? But as busy as things are surely i would have seen this... i heard this claim.
But never seen it ..?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
Date: 5/16/20 2:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK,
But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit.
For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user.
So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports… Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF… But I can help
you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has an interlock comment… INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link
it would be either or. But at any given moment either would be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
Truth in Lending.. I run LinBPQ and on a Windows Laptop I run WINMORCONTROL.EXE and all my sound modes under Win 10. Etherneted to my Linux Box running LinBPQ.
Ill do some testing and fire up my VARA FM on same WIN10 PC.
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 5:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
I do not at this time run VARA FM.. But I can I have a Signalink setting next to my extra 2 Meter rig.. Ill do some testing…
?
My Earlier email was based on VARA HF..
?
?
Interesting I have never had my VARA HF or FM setup. Respond to another station while operating any other mode. I'm off work this week end will do some testing.? But as busy as things are surely i would have seen this... i heard this claim.
But never seen it ..?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
Date: 5/16/20 2:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK,
But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit.
For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user.
So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports… Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF… But I can help
you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has an interlock comment… INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link
it would be either or. But at any given moment either would be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok… You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software … More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ….?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
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On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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