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K4HVF with a Gateway usage question


 

I am still new to operating a VARA HF Gateway so is it normal to see the usage decrease this time of year? The gateway was getting multiple usages a day and now I might see two a day.
I have checked the antenna, radio, computer and everything I could think of.
Just curious about this.
Thanks and Happy Holidays
Jeff K4HVF


 

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On 12/12/2024 9:28 AM, Jeffery Carr via groups.io wrote:
I am still new to operating a VARA HF Gateway so is it normal to see the usage decrease this time of year? The gateway was getting multiple usages a day and now I might see two a day.
I have checked the antenna, radio, computer and everything I could think of.
Just curious about this.
Thanks and Happy Holidays
Jeff K4HVF
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I['m noticing the the same thing with my 30M APRS-over-VARA project.???

A week ago I had multiple stations showing on my maps all day. Suddenly, I'm seeing almost none.? At first, I though it was a spell of lousy propagation or solar disturbances, then thought maybe something was wrong with my antennas.? But no, it's just low activity -- maybe it's holiday distractions.....

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I'll see if I can connect to your gateway this Saturday morning. Almost every Saturday we set up a ham radio demo at the Fulshear Farmers Market and we typically have a 40 meter inverted V antenna at about 24 feet high. With this type of antenna I can usually connect to gateways within 300-400 miles on 40 meters from Fulshear, Texas.
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73
John Denison
KD5YOU


 

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There were some calls in the past 3 months to reduce usage and limit it for emergency comms.

Perhaps that's part of the reason?

Yigal/K2EFG

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Yigal Rechtman


 

Yigal,
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Who is making calls NOT to use Winlink, except for emergency communications!?!? It should be used enough on "blue sky" days so that it is simply routine when needed in an emergency. I'm thankful that firefighters don't only train during live structure fires!
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Practice, practice, practice so you'll be proficient when needed... and know from day to day that your station and the RMS stations you hope to use are functioning properly.
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Yikes,
Greg Butler, KW6GB


 

Greg
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I think you misunderstood Yigal's statement. During times of disaster like during a hurricane making landfall or during recovery efforts, its advisable to not practice making connections to Winlink gateways while other people in disaster zones might need to use them. The Winlink Development Team has made it clear that we should refrain from sending low priority messages, i.e. Winlink check ins, test messages, etc. until regular communications have been restored in the affected areas.
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John Denison
KD5YOU


 

?I remember that being said, but I also remember that it was posted that normal traffic was allowed. Am I mistaken?
Jeff

On Friday, December 13, 2024 at 03:19:44 PM CST, John Denison via groups.io <kd5you@...> wrote:


Greg
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I think you misunderstood Yigal's statement. During times of disaster like during a hurricane making landfall or during recovery efforts, its advisable to not practice making connections to Winlink gateways while other people in disaster zones might need to use them. The Winlink Development Team has made it clear that we should refrain from sending low priority messages, i.e. Winlink check ins, test messages, etc. until regular communications have been restored in the affected areas.
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John Denison
KD5YOU


 

John,
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I have several issues with WDT making those kinds of blanket statements.
  • It makes it sound as though Winlink, a system with gateways around the world, cannot cope with routine communications at the same time as the volume of traffic expected during a localized disaster. Is the system less robust than we're led to believe?
  • It ignores the fact that normal Winlink use in areas not affected by a localized disaster or in an area likely to be the target for getting communications out of the disaster area has absolutely no impact on disaster traffic. Should European (or NW USA) users stop holding routine nets when a hurricane strikes Florida?
  • It ignores the fact that Winlink has a broad network (SHARES) operating outside of the US amateur bands specifically or the use of government and essential facilities use.
  • It ignores the fact that US amateur operators are already required by 47 CFR 97.101 to "give priority to stations providing emergency communications" and not to cause interference to "any radio communications." Does WDT feel the need to treat all amateur radio operators, worldwide, as children instead of thinking adults?
  • The notice posted on the Winlink website (with a worldwide reach) asked to suspend all routine traffic "until further notice." However, "further notice was never posted on the website. The request simply disappeared. And the suspension request continued to be propagated on social media well after the WDT request disappeared.
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We should use our heads, use common sense, and be considerate of others. I don't need WDT to tell me that.
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Greg, KW6GB
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Jeff I was able to connect to your gateway this morning just fine. Maybe it is propagation or maybe less people are using your gateway. When I send Winlink checkins I sometimes try alternate gateways instead of using the same ones repeatedly.
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John Denison
KD5YOU


 

Greg
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This morning I connected to KD0SFY in Colorado Springs on 40 meters... not exactly NW USA but not in the expected coverage area of my inverted V. I also connected once to a 20 meter gateway in Australia from Texas. Elevated dipoles and Yagis would probably work better at distant stations especially at night on 40 meters, so its not that hard to believe that activity on the opposite side of the country would affect usage on the other side.
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The WDT has the right to moderate usage of the Winlink system, and the messages I was referring to were posted on the Winlink forum after the fact.
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John Denison
KD5YOU