Well we get what we paid for! Hi hi
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On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 7:21 AM, Travis Bruehl (K1AC) <bruehlt@...> wrote: Yeah I wish the winlink developers would add that for FM radios that have it. My old Kenwood TM-V71 and TM-D710 both have cat control, as does my IC-9700. It's surprising they never added it for radios that support it.
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Yeah I wish the winlink developers would add that for FM radios that have it. My old Kenwood TM-V71 and TM-D710 both have cat control, as does my IC-9700. It's surprising they never added it for radios that support it.
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:58 PM, David Stuben wrote:
I use Winlink and Vara HF all the time and frequency control DOES work on my 7300 when doing P2P.
I didn't say you don't have "frequency control" when using VARA HF... only that the frequency control (via CAT) is implemented in the "Vara HF Winlink" or "VaraHF P2P" session component of Winlink Express, not in the VARA (HF or FM) modem software. It would have been redundant for the VARA software developer (Jose Nieto Ros) to implement CAT functionality in the VARA HF software modem, and pointless to provide CAT functionality in VARA FM. Mark - AD7EF
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I use Winlink and Vara HF all the time and frequency control DOES work on my 7300 when doing P2P.
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:46 PM, Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 02:24 PM, NOEL MORTIER W9NMM wrote:
Vara fm does not have frequency control. Most vhf radios don’t have it so it is not in vara fm.
Noel, David... Don't blame VARA!! Neither the "VARA HF" or the "VARA FM" software-modems include any "CAT" (Computer Aided Transceiver) functionality. When either software modem is used with the Winlink Express radio-email program or the "VarAC" or the "VARA CHAT" radio-chat programs, it is the host program that provides CAT functionality. In the case of Winlink Express, this functionality is provided in the "HF Session" component (for "Vara HF Winlink" or "Vara HF P2P" sessions). This same CAT functionality is also present in other "... HF Winlink" or "... HF P2P" sessions that use other software modem programs, such as ARDOP or Robust Packet. The Winlink Express developers have never provide CAT functionality for the "VHF / UHF FM" sessions that make use of "VARA FM" or "Packet" software modem technology. Mark - AD7EF
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 02:24 PM, NOEL MORTIER W9NMM wrote:
Vara fm does not have frequency control. Most vhf radios don’t have it so it is not in vara fm.
Noel, David... Don't blame VARA!! Neither the "VARA HF" or the "VARA FM" software-modems include any "CAT" (Computer Aided Transceiver) functionality. When either software modem is used with the Winlink Express radio-email program, or the "VarAC" or the "VARA CHAT" radio-chat programs, it is the host program that provides CAT functionality. In the case of Winlink Express, CAT functionality is provided in the "HF Session" component (for "Vara HF Winlink" or "Vara HF P2P" sessions). This same CAT functionality is also present in the "... HF Winlink" or "... HF P2P" sessions that use other software modem programs, such as ARDOP or Robust Packet. The Winlink Express developers never provided CAT functionality for the "VHF / UHF FM" sessions that make use of "VARA FM" or "Packet" software modem technology. Mark - AD7EF
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Ah, I did not know that.? Thank you.
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 5:24 PM, NOEL MORTIER?? W9NMM <noel@...> wrote:
Vara fm does not have frequency control. Most vhf radios don’t have it so it is not in vara fm.?
On May 27, 2024, at 4:54?PM, David Stuben via groups.io <david.stuben@...> wrote:
?Having some issues with frequency control with VARA FM on the 9700.? Radio keys, but does not change frequency if selecting another station.? Works with other software (flrig and fldigi).? I've watched several videos posted by other people and
followed their settings for the radio and software.? Any ideas appreciated.? ?73
Dave W8WWP?
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Vara fm does not have frequency control. Most vhf radios don’t have it so it is not in vara fm.?
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On May 27, 2024, at 4:54?PM, David Stuben via groups.io <david.stuben@...> wrote:
?Having some issues with frequency control with VARA FM on the 9700.? Radio keys, but does not change frequency if selecting another station.? Works with other software (flrig and fldigi).? I've watched several videos posted by other people and
followed their settings for the radio and software.? Any ideas appreciated.? ?73
Dave W8WWP?
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Re: Soundcard device missing in action!
I will get that error if my USB cable is unplugged while VARA HF or FM is running. If the cable is unplugged, makes bad contact or the cable itself is bad, then that error can appear.
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John Denison
KD5YOU
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Having some issues with frequency control with VARA FM on the 9700.? Radio keys, but does not change frequency if selecting another station.? Works with other software (flrig and fldigi).? I've watched several videos posted by other people and followed their settings for the radio and software.? Any ideas appreciated.? ?73
Dave W8WWP?
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Re: Soundcard device missing in action!
I created the Y-T video a few years ago showing my setup of Winlink utilizing VARA on HF.
Maybe it will help.
73,
Glenn-K0ION
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Re: Soundcard device missing in action!
I recently bought an HP Win11 CPU and had a heck of a time to get all my hardware and software to interface with my setup.
First things first. After struggling with the HP Win11 machine I discovered that 2 things kept messing with me. Windows update and COM port installation and resets by Windows.
So. I first turn on all my external hardware . FT-857D, DAR -50 sound "box", Alinco's DR-135 and DR-235. The 135 has a DAR circuit plugged in for interface and the 235 has the TX Serial chip for packet. The. I boot up the computer and after dust settles I pause Win update.
I then check my device management settings for COM/PTR ports.
I had to write down the manufacturer of each COM port, check the "properties" to verify the specific parameters have not changed (once I had a working system). A 3X5 or notebook entries are helpful to record " known" working interfaces .
I then right click on the computer sound icon for " mixer settings" and with Win11 it can be a bit confusing if you don't write down the speaker and microphone setting for the "sound card/box" you are using. I make sure win system sounds are muted and my settings for the Winlink app for system I will boot up ( in this case VARA HF).?
If all looks good I open my WL and do a quick test of my local VARA HF RMS for confirmation of 2 way connections.
There has been quite a bit of help from folks in this group, so dig through the information that may be similar to your setup.
Almost all the sound card manufacturers have help files on interfacing equipment. As with any hobby, reading and documenting your steps can help you in the long run to figure out a solution for yourself.
System block diagram, cable configuration, and keeping track of anything else that can upset your working configuration is a challenge but rewarding when you get it all together.
I may not have helped you with a specific solution but I hope you won't give up in getting your setup working.
I now only use my HP WIN11 for my ham station.?? Good luck. 73 de Greg? I enjoy CW a lot!
I am trying to use VARA HF to send e-mails via WInlink, and I keep getting the mesage, "Soundcard device missing in action!" in the VARA HF log.? When I open a session in Winlink Express and then hit Start, I get the message, "Soundcard device is not ready", and then nothing else happens.
Equipment is as follows:
Kenwood TS-480SAT Signalink USB Dell Inspiron 15 3000
VARA HF and Windows were configured according to instructions from Signalink.? Jumpers in Signalink checked and double checked.? Input and output for the Signalink are set to USB Audio CODEC.? Normal sounds for computer set to computer soundcard.
I am not seeing any audio on the VU meter in the VARA HF window.? The needle is at -96dB and doesn't move at all.
I am not using CAT control for the TS-480. On the TS-480, AGC is off, and all filters wide open. On the computer, Wave Audio Services and Wave Audio Universal Services are disabled. I can hear signals clearly on the radio's speaker, including CW ID on signals.
I can go to Settings>Soundcard and hit the Tune button, and it keys the radio.? When it is keyed, I can adjust power output from the Signalink.
I'm not much of a computer person and have never attempted digital communications before this current effort.? I operate mostly CW.
I have been trying to solve this problem for a week with no success.? Help would be greatly appreciated.
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FYI, if you run VARA under Linux, you may run into a problem where the application fails to rebind to its TCP socket after the client close the connection. This means you have to restart the VARA app every time, which is impractical if you're wanting to run VARA as a headless configuration.
To work around that, I've created an agent that can manage VARA, and also advertise it on the network using DNS-SD. This allows client apps like RadioMail to use zero-conf to discover the modem and connect to it. No need to fish out IP or port, it just works.
Check it out at:
And here is a video for creating a VARA "hotspot" appliance using Linux on a tiny puck 12V computer. It's focusing on HF but same applies to FM:
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On May 27, 2024, at 7:30?AM, la1tpa via groups.io <la1tpa.qrp@...> wrote:
?I even run VARA Modem and Winlink Express in Wine with Box86 on the ARM based Raspberry Pi 4 although not a 100% stable.
73! de Mads, la1tpa
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I even run VARA Modem and Winlink Express in Wine with Box86 on the ARM based Raspberry Pi 4 although not a 100% stable.
73! de Mads, la1tpa
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Soundcard device missing in action!
I am trying to use VARA HF to send e-mails via WInlink, and I keep getting the mesage, "Soundcard device missing in action!" in the VARA HF log.? When I open a session in Winlink Express and then hit Start, I get the message, "Soundcard device is not ready", and then nothing else happens.
Equipment is as follows:
Kenwood TS-480SAT Signalink USB Dell Inspiron 15 3000
VARA HF and Windows were configured according to instructions from Signalink.? Jumpers in Signalink checked and double checked.? Input and output for the Signalink are set to USB Audio CODEC.? Normal sounds for computer set to computer soundcard.
I am not seeing any audio on the VU meter in the VARA HF window.? The needle is at -96dB and doesn't move at all.
I am not using CAT control for the TS-480. On the TS-480, AGC is off, and all filters wide open. On the computer, Wave Audio Services and Wave Audio Universal Services are disabled. I can hear signals clearly on the radio's speaker, including CW ID on signals.
I can go to Settings>Soundcard and hit the Tune button, and it keys the radio.? When it is keyed, I can adjust power output from the Signalink.
I'm not much of a computer person and have never attempted digital communications before this current effort.? I operate mostly CW.
I have been trying to solve this problem for a week with no success.? Help would be greatly appreciated.
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VARA Modem (Windows version) runs just fine on Linux using Wine, see /g/VARA-MODEM/files/Wine . Even Winlink Express runs there and cooperate very well with VARA. -- 73 de LA9RT, Bent, Oslo, Norway
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Thanks. Good suggestion on documentation. I will be sure to share when I get this working.
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On May 26, 2024, at 8:31?AM, Roy KD6R via groups.io <rfdugger@...> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Is the radio transmitting?? i.e. does the radio go into transmit (com settings).? If so, is there audio (Windows Sounds and Sound Settings).
On the VARA display, are you seeing data wave forms (Windows Sounds and Sound Settings) from stations you're trying to connect to.
I'm assuming the VARA and Winlink Express Settings are correct.? (Soundcard Settings in VARA and Radio settings in Winlink Session window).
I struggle with this as well with different setups and soundcards.? Radio settings for internal cards can also be frustrating.? I haven't setup my 7300 yet so I'm no good there, and I run Windows, so I'm ignorant on VM on Mac as well.
My path to success has been to be methodical and document everything.? Taking screenshot helps in that regard.
Best of luck.? Don't be shy about walking away and clear the head.? Please share your inevitable success.
73
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Roy Dugger, KD6R
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I do. Thanks for the tip. Much appreciated. 73,
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On May 26, 2024, at 8:54?AM, Mark Davis via groups.io <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Paul;
Do you have another radio, that you can use to monitor your transmit signal?
I find that is one of the best tools you can get, for diagnosing problems with digital modes such as VARA!
Mark - AD7EF
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Re: VARA HF Not Connecting
Paul;
Do you have another radio, that you can use to monitor your transmit signal?
I find that is one of the best tools you can get, for diagnosing problems with digital modes such as VARA!
Mark - AD7EF
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Hi Paul,
Is the radio transmitting?? i.e. does the radio go into transmit (com settings).? If so, is there audio (Windows Sounds and Sound Settings).
On the VARA display, are you seeing data wave forms (Windows Sounds and Sound Settings) from stations you're trying to connect to.
I'm assuming the VARA and Winlink Express Settings are correct.? (Soundcard Settings in VARA and Radio settings in Winlink Session window).
I struggle with this as well with different setups and soundcards.? Radio settings for internal cards can also be frustrating.? I haven't setup my 7300 yet so I'm no good there, and I run Windows, so I'm ignorant on VM on Mac as well.
My path to success has been to be methodical and document everything.? Taking screenshot helps in that regard.
Best of luck.? Don't be shy about walking away and clear the head.? Please share your inevitable success.
73
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Roy Dugger, KD6R
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Mark Davis
NOEL MORTIER W9NMM
Georges WH6AZ