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Re: VARA FM Stand Alone Digi no RMS Gateway
Our Club's Technical chair put together a very nice VARA Digipeater for our nearby high level hilltop. Lots of RF activity on that hill but the digipeater works very well. I believe it is comprised of a late model Yaesu radio, Intel NUC mini computer, and a Master's Communication DRA-50 interface.
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Re: VARA FM Stand Alone Digi no RMS Gateway
Stephen, ? ?Thank you for your response. I know when you talk about high spots and radios.? ? ? I appreciate your knowledge and response. ? 73 Lee WB4QOJ On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 3:28 PM WA8LMF via <wa8lmf3=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: VARA FM Stand Alone Digi no RMS Gateway
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 8/5/2023 1:44 PM, Lee McDaniel
wrote:
Getting ready to build a Stand Alone VARA FM Digipeater at a high location....no RMS WinLink just Digi. ? Soiftware/firmware updates are the least of your problems! It this is truly a high location, the real issue is very low path
loss to other adjacent mountain tops; i.e. "high-to-high" paths.?
You may be dealing with VERY strong signals from other VHF ham /
commercial / public-safety radio systems on the same mountain top
or adjacent ones. The signal levels will be FAR FAR higher than
you encounter on the ground. You almost never have literal
"line-of-sight" paths between points on the ground - something is
almost always in the way such as trees, buildings,the earth's own
horizon, etc to attenuate the signal. The result on high mountain top locations is truly brutal
receiver overload problems from other mountain-top transmitters --
unless you use highly-selective commercial cavity filters to keep
other frequencies from reaching your receiver's front end.? You
may be familiar with cavity-filter-based "duplexers" on repeaters,
but on busy mountain tops, you need this kind of filtering even on
a simple single-frequency transceiver. You receiver will suffer
from a nearly constant mishmash of other frequencies mixed
together (inter-modulation) that prevents your receiver from
hearing weak signals on your own frequency. ? You will want to use
retired Motorola or GE/Harris commercial base stations rather than
ham gear to get the receiver strong-signal overload immunity you
need. Don't even think of using hand-helds or low-end ham mobile
gear, especially if there are any other radio-active mountain tops
within 10-15 miles of you. Further, if their are other users on the same mountain top as
you, you may unwittingly become a bad neighbor to them.? Strong
signals from their transmitters a few hundred or few thousand feet
away get picked up by your antenna, come down your coax and mix in
your receiver front-end or transmitter power amplifier. The mix of
"crud" then get re-radiated by your own antenna, reating a kind of
"RF smog" that interferes with their receivers.? Responsible
multi-user site managers now require all tenants to equip their
systems with ferrite isolaters or circulators and cavity filters
to prevent these problems.of on-site IMD generation.
Another problem at super-high sites is that you may able to hear
TOO MUCH. Distant signals from 50-100 miles away,? on your own
channel, may hold your receiver squelch open nearly constantly,
preventing your own transmitter from ever transmitting. ?
- - From one who spent nearly 30 years field-engineering public
safety and utility radio systems on mountain-tops all over
California.
Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page:????????? "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels ?? -- APRS over FLdigi Modes? -- ?? 60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating ?? Flying Digipeater! ?? ?
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Re: Complete collapse
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI ordered an industrial usb hub. It has a 12vdc input, metal case and is solid. Bad part is it uses the little green pcb power connector. Ok for fixed install, not as robust as I would like in the go box.?I do the same and pig tale all power leads to power poles.?
W4DBL? Doug Lynch President? Aries International, LLC ? D: +1-321-415-2191 ? E: Doug@...?
Port Orange, FL
On Aug 5, 2023, at 14:57, Brian - W7OWO via groups.io <W7OWO@...> wrote:
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Re: Complete collapse
Any computer equipment for radio work I now only buy 12 volt DC powered devices. I then make a power cable with a Power Pole connectors along with the the appropriate barrel connector so I easily get power from either power supply in the shack and not a have one more wall wart, or battery when I am in the field.? So far it it seems 12 volt powered electronics mostly come with the same center positive, outside diameter 5.5mm barrel connectors.? Many Mini PC's and Powered Hubs may be 5 Volt.
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VARA FM Stand Alone Digi no RMS Gateway
Getting ready to build a Stand Alone VARA FM Digipeater at a high location....no RMS WinLink just Digi.
This will help in filling in holes that need coverage to a VaraFM RMS Gateway. Has anyone done this in a remote Mountain site or other high spot and ran into issues ? I can always get to the site easily to update software when needed. Thanks Lee WB4QOJ |
Re: Complete collapse
The advice about using a hub with a metal case is good advice. And absolutely a powered hub. If you stick with certain brands you are less likely to encounter the odd dodgey problem like ports disappearing. Belkin and Startech are names I would trust. Asus and Logitech as well. And you should probably only bother with a USB 3 hub, and make sure it connects to a USB 3 port on the host PC. I have two different hubs on different host systems.One has buttons for each port to turn it on or off. The other that I use for rig does not have buttons. I didn't see a need for buttons on that host.
If the problem persists, it could well be a driver issue for the USB adapter on the motherboard. Not all motherboards are made the same. It might be worth the time to look for an unpublished driver update for the USB controller on the motherboard. Just because Windows Updates doesn't offer a driver update doesn't mean that a newer driver isn't on the manufacturer's site. |
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On Aug 1, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Thomas Bostr?m <thomasbostrom1@...> wrote:
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Re: Frustrated, can't get WinLink Vara to talk to IC 7300
Thanks. I'm out of town for a few days, but will start working on this again when I get home. Dick? On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 9:24 AM John Denison <kd5you@...> wrote: Hi Dick |
Re: Frustrated, can't get WinLink Vara to talk to IC 7300
Hi Dick
There is a file called RMSExpress.ini in your RMS EXpress folder. You might not see the .ini extension, but this file is one of the configuration settings files. Double click on the file to view it in something like Notepad. Scroll down to the section titled [Session form]. There should be a set of numbers for top, left, width, and height. You might check to see if those numbers are so large that they are putting the VARA HF Session Window beyond the visible part of the screen. Mine are as follows: Vara HF top=273 Vara HF left=450 Vara HF width=775 Vara HF height=400 I installed Winlink Express on my new Windows 11 laptop (HP) and didn't have any issues with seeing the session windows for any of the different protocols, but who knows... strange things can sometimes happen. 73 John Denison KD5YOU |
Re: Frustrated, can't get WinLink Vara to talk to IC 7300
Check your CI-V address in Winlink and on your radio.? They need to match.? The only time I've had issues with Winlink/VARA on the 7300 was when I was in MARS and had to use the IC 7100 setup to run their modems.? To do that I had to change the CI-V to emulate the 7100.
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Re: Complete collapse
I have been using a 7 port hub for over a year and have continuous problems with ports being unavailable when I change apps (e.g. switch transceivers or go from wsjtx to js8 call). ?This happens with or without VSPE. Windows10 ?issue or ? Hub issue?
I wonder if instead of using an external hub there are better results with a USB expansion card powered by the PC? I have a usb 3.0 2-port card that seems to be reliable. ?Maybe adding several 3 or 4 port cards would be a more reliable choice? |
Re: Frustrated, can't get WinLink Vara to talk to IC 7300
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI suggest you get screen shots of the different screens as well as screen shots of your settings. What is the old saying "one picture" can replace a thousand words.Greg K5KYR? On Aug 2, 2023, at 4:24 PM, Dick via groups.io <shanahand65@...> wrote:
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Re: Frustrated, can't get WinLink Vara to talk to IC 7300
Dick,
After you start a VARA FM session, you can hover on the Winlink Express icon in the task tray. If you see two little windows pop-up, one is the VARA FM session application. Move your mouse into that little window and right-click to open the window controls. Move your mouse into the window controls and click on Move. Now your mouse focus is set to that window. Try click-and-drag to move the session window into view, or use the right/left arrow keys to do likewise (it's slow but will eventually get there). Ralph |
Re: Frustrated, can't get WinLink Vara to talk to IC 7300
Ralph,? Thanks. I apologize for the delay. I agree, it acts like it was happy with the settings and went ahead and opened the Vara modem. I have corresponded with Jose and he has no help. I am wondering if there aren't just some settings somewhere on my laptop saved over from a previous of Winlink express? Maybe even in the Registry. Do you have any other thoughts? I looked outside the WinLink window, but did not find anything other than the Vara screen. On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 7:02?AM Ralph Merwin <prizmev@...> wrote: Dick, |
Re: Complete collapse
I use this 16-port USB-3 Expansion:? 73 de K3FZT / Steve? -- Steve Davidson K3FZTWinlink Gateway K3FZT-10@...?direct or via W3EOC-3 Supporting VARA FM Wide/1200bd Packet 1200bd Packet Node//BBS K3FZT-7@... WIRES-X Room #85218 "MARC-DARBY" 444.050 mHz K3FZT@...?FN20 On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 4:04?PM Gary - K7EK via <gary.k7ek=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Complete collapse
Cool. Thanks Stephen! Best regards, Gary, K7EK
On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 03:55:11 PM EDT, WA8LMF via groups.io <wa8lmf3@...> wrote:
On 8/1/2023 3:41 PM, Gary - K7EK via
groups.io wrote:
Details on the 11 port USB
hub, please? Where to buy? Make/model,?
approximate cost, etc.
Thanks.
Best regards,
Gary, K7EK
I got it from this Amazon page: ???
Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype:??????? WA8LMF EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band] Home Page:????????? "Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels ?? -- APRS over FLdigi Modes? -- ?? 60-Meter APRS!?? HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating ?? Flying Digipeater! ??
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