Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
After all the suggestions and modifications you all have helped me with I am able to get vara fm to work correctly. I'm not sure what the key was but I appreciate so much all of the input I have gotten from you guys.
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Mark was supposed to have a Team Viewer session with me this afternoon but that won't be necessary after all.
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Again, thanks so much!
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Smiley kz4zk
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Re: Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
I've tried using Signalink USB with my gateways on a Windows 11 machine and could never get it to stop dropping the S/N ratio to pitiful values after 24 hrs or so of being plugged in, so I went with Digirigs. I don't know how many people are running their Signalinks 24 hrs a day though. Hopefully John can get his station working.
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John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
John,
Signalink has, in my opinion, one of the best set of set-up documents in the industry when it comes to an external audio soundcard interface.??
If I recall correctly, they have a special section on their website concerning Windows 11....let me look.
Here you go!??
https://tigertronics.com/sl_suprt.htm#Windows_11_Information
My advice is to carefully follow their setup instructions, again.? Don't just start in the middle somewhere.....start at the beginning.? I
've used the Signalink USB interface on 2 different HF radios (Yaesu & Icom), one old, one new, and it has worked perfectly and did not demonstrate the problem you mentioned.? And for what it is worth, the Windows OS in both cases was Windows 10 and Windows 11.? So I'll vouch for the validity of their documenation.??
I am confident you missed missed a step or perhaps selected the wrong option which is causing your sound issue.? I recall sections of the instructions where it says if you don't get a specific result at that point in the setup, stop and go back and recheck your steps.??
Give it another try, take your time, and you'll get the desired results.? Good luck and 73!?
Stu -- N7QJP
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Re: Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
You might try looking at this setting: right click on your speaker icon in the taskbar, and then click on Sound Settings. In this window scroll down to More sound settings. This should open up a window with a list of sound cards. Click on Recording, and then double click on your microphone/sound card. By default it should be USB Audio CODEC. Even though you are not using a microphone, it is still labeled this way in Windows and is the input to the Signalink from the radio. In this window click on the Listen tab. There is a box that you can enable to listen to what the microphone can hear, or in this case what the Signalink can hear from the radio. This should typically be disabled or unselected.
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John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
Ken, W7EKB, thanks. ?Looking forward to possible fix.
Vy 73 DX,
On Wednesday, February 12, 2025, 13:21, Kenneth G. Gordon via groups.io <kgordon2006@...> wrote: That problem is centered around the "new" way that Win 11 handles sound devices.
I have a possible solution for you, but am presently unable to get to my computer to send that info to you.
If someone else here has not helped you, I will do so as soon as I can.
Ken W7EKB
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "John Dempsey via groups.io" <johndgex@...> Date: 2/12/25 09:34 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [VARA-MODEM] Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
I'm using a Kenwood TS-480SAT and a Signalink USB to run Winlink.? I have the paid version of VARA HF.? I am running Windows 11 on a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 laptop.? I don't use WInlink that often, so I thought I would check it out.?
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I could receive signals, but the PTT on the Signalink would not illuminate, so no RF transmit from the radio.
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Eventually I got that fixed, and I can send and receive e-mail via Winlink.?
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The issue is that audio from the radio is going to the speakers on my laptop.? I get audio on the radio AND the computer speakers, simultaneously.? This is not a show stopper, but it is something different that before.
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Here is the information from Signalink to solve the problem:? "TIP:? If the comms program is properly configured to use the SignaLink's USB Audio Codec sound card for both transmit and receive, but the transmit audio is heard in your computer speakers, then you can usually fix this by restarting the comms program.? If this doesn't work, then open the comms program's sound card setup and select a different sound card for output.? Click OK or Save (as applicable) to save the settings, then re-open the program's sound card setup again and set it back to USB Audio Codec.? This should resolve the issue." ?
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I tried the above fix, but the issue remains.
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Has anyone else encountered this issue and instituted a successful fix?
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Thanks,
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John
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Re: Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
That problem is centered around the "new" way that Win 11 handles sound devices.
I have a possible solution for you, but am presently unable to get to my computer to send that info to you.
If someone else here has not helped you, I will do so as soon as I can.
Ken W7EKB
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
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-------- Original message -------- From: "John Dempsey via groups.io" <johndgex@...> Date: 2/12/25 09:34 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [VARA-MODEM] Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
I'm using a Kenwood TS-480SAT and a Signalink USB to run Winlink.? I have the paid version of VARA HF.? I am running Windows 11 on a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 laptop.? I don't use WInlink that often, so I thought I would check it out.?
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I could receive signals, but the PTT on the Signalink would not illuminate, so no RF transmit from the radio.
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Eventually I got that fixed, and I can send and receive e-mail via Winlink.?
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The issue is that audio from the radio is going to the speakers on my laptop.? I get audio on the radio AND the computer speakers, simultaneously.? This is not a show stopper, but it is something different that before.
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Here is the information from Signalink to solve the problem:? "TIP:? If the comms program is properly configured to use the SignaLink's USB Audio Codec sound card for both transmit and receive, but the transmit audio is heard in your computer speakers, then you can usually fix this by restarting the comms program.? If this doesn't work, then open the comms program's sound card setup and select a different sound card for output.? Click OK or Save (as applicable) to save the settings, then re-open the program's sound card setup again and set it back to USB Audio Codec.? This should resolve the issue." ?
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I tried the above fix, but the issue remains.
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Has anyone else encountered this issue and instituted a successful fix?
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Thanks,
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John
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Radio Audio in Computer Speakers
I'm using a Kenwood TS-480SAT and a Signalink USB to run Winlink.? I have the paid version of VARA HF.? I am running Windows 11 on a Dell Inspiron 15 3000 laptop.? I don't use WInlink that often, so I thought I would check it out.?
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I could receive signals, but the PTT on the Signalink would not illuminate, so no RF transmit from the radio.
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Eventually I got that fixed, and I can send and receive e-mail via Winlink.?
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The issue is that audio from the radio is going to the speakers on my laptop.? I get audio on the radio AND the computer speakers, simultaneously.? This is not a show stopper, but it is something different that before.
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Here is the information from Signalink to solve the problem:? "TIP:? If the comms program is properly configured to use the SignaLink's USB Audio Codec sound card for both transmit and receive, but the transmit audio is heard in your computer speakers, then you can usually fix this by restarting the comms program.? If this doesn't work, then open the comms program's sound card setup and select a different sound card for output.? Click OK or Save (as applicable) to save the settings, then re-open the program's sound card setup again and set it back to USB Audio Codec.? This should resolve the issue." ?
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I tried the above fix, but the issue remains.
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Has anyone else encountered this issue and instituted a successful fix?
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Thanks,
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John
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Re: VARA? Disconnects USB Keyboard
Check your station ground and antenna system. The other thing would be some snap-on ferrite cores on any USB cables that are having trouble. It is true that cheaper USB cables have less (or no) shielding.
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Doug / N3JXB
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 03:17 PM, Bob AF9W wrote:
The Signalink Aux jack allows you to monitor the output of the Signalink.??
When you say "output of the Signalink", if you're talking about transmit audio, that signal is available on the SignaLink back-panel "Mon" output jack.
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The SignaLink "Aux" output jack is used to route receive audio to an extarnal speaker when the receive audio signal is routed to the SignaLink through a cable from the radio's external-speaker output jack to the SignaLink "SPKR" input jack.
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Smiley's Alinco DR-185 radio requires the use of the "SPKR" audio cable because it doesn't have a "DATA" connector, and it doesn't output receive audio on the microphone connector. The only way to get the receive audio signal out of the DR-185 is through the back-panel external speaker connector, and plugging a cable into this connector disables the radio's internal speaker.
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Mark - AD7EF
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
I have that connected to an external speaker....thanks for the tip...
On February 11, 2025, at 6:17 PM, "Bob AF9W via groups.io" <af9w@...> wrote: The Signalink Aux jack allows you to monitor the output of the Signalink.??
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
The Signalink Aux jack allows you to monitor the output of the Signalink.??
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Re: VARA? Disconnects USB Keyboard
On 2/11/2025 2:47 PM, Greg Lane via
groups.io wrote:
Have you used Jtsync or some other clock syncing
program?
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On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 7:49?AM
Rory Griffin, W4RJG via <w4rjg= [email protected]>
wrote:
Hi,
???? Windows Update is not an issue here.? The COM port
works fine.? Scanning through 8 frequencies works well.?
VARA TUNE puts the radio into Tx mode.? The waterfall works
fine.? But when the VARA HF modem starts, the USB Keyboard
no longer works.? When VARA HF is closed, the keyboard
works.? But only on the Jupiter radio configuration.? I did
a complete delete and reinstall of RMS Trimode and VARA HF.
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Again, this is RFI !? Transmit RF is getting back into the shack
and cables.??? The VARA "Tune" button produces a single RF tone
like keydown CW.? When this single RF frequency is picked up by
wiring in the shack and gets into the USB port,? diode-detection?
by circuitry in the USB port produces only a single DC voltage.?
Nothing much happens.? This will be true of any mode that
generates only one tone at a time such as RTTY, MFSK, analog SSTV,
etc.
When you actually transmit with VARA, you are generating a
complex multi-tone signal with at least 11 simultaneous audio
tones which create multiple RF signals side-by-side.? When this
complex RF mix gets diode-detected by the USB port's electronics,
you get multiple audio frequencies,?? as the various RF freqs beat
against each other.?? When these AC signals are? fed into the USB
port routines, USB data flows are screwed up and locks up the port
until the RF goes away.
Again, what kind of antenna are you using, and how close to the
shack is it????
Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:?????????
New? 30 Meter?? APRS-over VARA? Frequency
As of 1 Jan 2025.?? Details Here:
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- APRS over VARA? --
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"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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Re: VARA? Disconnects USB Keyboard
Have you used Jtsync or some other clock syncing program?
Until I used Jtsyc my WJST would not decode. Using that and naming my com ports has me working all platforms: Winlink, VARAC, VARA, Fldigi, etc. Greg?
Not familiar with your rigs and configuration, but when Win 11 came in I had all sorts of digging into my setup to get back to functioning. Greg?
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 7:49?AM Rory Griffin, W4RJG via <w4rjg= [email protected]> wrote: Hi,
???? Windows Update is not an issue here.? The COM port works fine.? Scanning through 8 frequencies works well.? VARA TUNE puts the radio into Tx mode.? The waterfall works fine.? But when the VARA HF modem starts, the USB Keyboard no longer works.? When VARA HF is closed, the keyboard works.? But only on the Jupiter radio configuration.? I did a complete delete and reinstall of RMS Trimode and VARA HF.
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????? Rory Griffin W4RJG
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
That's a thought....I'll look into that....
Can you ask someone in your club to monitor the gateway while you attempt to connect and listen to see if the gateway is responding?
That is actually my club's gateway. I have tried that one and a couple of others.....
On Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 10:37:25 AM EST, Glenn O'Connor via <ka0lnr37= [email protected]> wrote:
? ? Yes the full call sign is in the box....also, since I increased the volume of the audio, the countdown starts transmitting from 4 all the way to the end but the response is still "no signal". I am unable to check the gateway response with another radio because I have just one antenna and the gateways are too far for an HT. On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:10:09 PM EST, Mark Davis via <markad7ef@...> wrote: When you perform the "Auto Tune", is the full call-sign of the gateway station (including the -nn extension) entered in the "Calibrate with:" field, on the VARA FM "Drive Level Calibration" screen?
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Re: VARA? Disconnects USB Keyboard
I get USB C disconnect when transmitting VARA FM and a Digirig sound card connected to a HT that is not in my hand or with a tiger tail counterpoise¡.so it is likely an RFI interference issue for me¡and maybe you. When I make sure I have a good counter, my USB stays connected fine.?
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
I¡¯ve got TeamViewer up and running, John. K0ION ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of SMILEY kz4zk via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 10:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185? If I ping the gateway, after it transmits I get no RF response that I can hear. As soon as the transmission (ping) is through, the receive background noise can be heard but no RF signal. I appreciate you guys giving me a hand with this. Are any of you capable of using team viewer? Maybe that is a way to see what idiotic thing I have done....hihi On Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 10:32:28 AM EST, Bob W0EG via groups.io <morrisnc7@...> wrote: What is the receive audio connection from the radio to the signal-link?? Is there a way to tap into it to monitor the audio?? Is the radio¡¯s speaker cut off when this connection is in use? ? Many gateways will respond multiple times after receiving a connect request. ? Yes the full call sign is in the box....also, since I increased the volume of the audio, the countdown starts transmitting from 4 all the way to the end but the response is still "no signal". I am unable to check the gateway response with another radio because I have just one antenna and the gateways are too far for an HT. On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:10:09 PM EST, Mark Davis via <markad7ef=[email protected]> wrote: When you perform the "Auto Tune", is the full call-sign of the gateway station (including the -nn extension) entered in the "Calibrate with:" field, on the VARA FM "Drive Level Calibration" screen?
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Re: VARA? Disconnects USB Keyboard
On 2/11/2025 10:49 AM, Rory Griffin,
W4RJG via groups.io wrote:
Hi,
???? Windows Update is not an issue here.? The COM port works
fine.? Scanning through 8 frequencies works well.? VARA TUNE
puts the radio into Tx mode.? The waterfall works fine.? But
when the VARA HF modem starts, the USB Keyboard no longer
works.? When VARA HF is closed, the keyboard works.? But only on
the Jupiter radio configuration.? I did a complete delete and
reinstall of RMS Trimode and VARA HF.
--
73,
????? Rory Griffin W4RJG
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This sounds like RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) -- transmit
RF is being picked up by the keyboard cable and blocking the
keyboard input until you stop transmitting.??
What kind of TX antenna are you using?? How far from the
operating position is it?
Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:?????????
New? 30 Meter?? APRS-over VARA? Frequency
As of 1 Jan 2025.?? Details Here:
????
- APRS over VARA? --
??
"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
Can you ask someone in your club to monitor the gateway while you attempt to connect and listen to see if the gateway is responding?
That is actually my club's gateway. I have tried that one and a couple of others.....
On Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 10:37:25 AM EST, Glenn O'Connor via <ka0lnr37= [email protected]> wrote:
? ? Yes the full call sign is in the box....also, since I increased the volume of the audio, the countdown starts transmitting from 4 all the way to the end but the response is still "no signal". I am unable to check the gateway response with another radio because I have just one antenna and the gateways are too far for an HT. On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:10:09 PM EST, Mark Davis via <markad7ef@...> wrote: When you perform the "Auto Tune", is the full call-sign of the gateway station (including the -nn extension) entered in the "Calibrate with:" field, on the VARA FM "Drive Level Calibration" screen?
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
If I ping the gateway, after it transmits I get no RF response that I can hear. As soon as the transmission (ping) is through, the receive background noise can be heard but no RF signal.
I appreciate you guys giving me a hand with this. Are any of you capable of using team viewer? Maybe that is a way to see what idiotic thing I have done....hihi
Simley,
What is the receive audio connection from the radio to the signal-link?? Is there a way to tap into it to monitor the audio?? Is the radio¡¯s speaker cut off when this connection is in use? ? Many gateways will respond multiple times after receiving a connect request.
Yes the full call sign is in the box....also, since I increased the volume of the audio, the countdown starts transmitting from 4 all the way to the end but the response is still "no signal". I am unable to check the gateway response with another radio because I have just one antenna and the gateways are too far for an HT.
On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:10:09 PM EST, Mark Davis via <markad7ef= [email protected]> wrote:
Smiley;
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When you perform the "Auto Tune", is the full call-sign of the gateway station (including the -nn extension) entered in the "Calibrate with:" field, on the VARA FM "Drive Level Calibration" screen?
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Mark - AD7EF
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
That is actually my club's gateway. I have tried that one and a couple of others.....
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of SMILEY kz4zk via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185 ? Yes the full call sign is in the box....also, since I increased the volume of the audio, the countdown starts transmitting from 4 all the way to the end but the response is still "no signal". I am unable to check the gateway response with another radio because I have just one antenna and the gateways are too far for an HT. On Monday, February 10, 2025 at 03:10:09 PM EST, Mark Davis via groups.io <markad7ef@...> wrote: When you perform the "Auto Tune", is the full call-sign of the gateway station (including the -nn extension) entered in the "Calibrate with:" field, on the VARA FM "Drive Level Calibration" screen?
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SMILEY kz4zk
Stu Olson
Mark Davis
Bob AF9W