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Re: Can't get the Dang VARA to run correctly

 

Jeff,

That eliminates the Windows 10 lockout then. I see Jerry suggesting
white-listing VARA in your anit-virus program. I wouldn't re-install RMS
Express. It shouldn't be a host program problem. I didn't have any
problems with the VARA install here. I don't run RMS Express, so I have
to think about this a minute...

Dave - W7EES

On 12/1/18 6:03 PM, kd4qit@... wrote:
Dave,

To be honest I think its C:\ vara\ vara.exe but not sure can't access
the?page to check any of that !! When you go to drop down to load vara
in rms?express and click open it starts to launch vara but before it
finishes loading the page disappears so all those settings are not
accessible I've?reinstalled the software with same issue im?complexed on
the thing !!? I don't know if reinstalling Rms express will help or not
don't want to lose my address book and the settings in
rms?express?trying that.
jeff k4jtn
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- Dave - W7EES -


Re: Can't get the Dang VARA to run correctly

Jerome Kutche
 

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I had issues on my WINXP pc and my New WIN7 Laptop my AV Software was stopping it you will have to exclude it from any FIREWALL and AV software both the software and the ports assigned. At least that worked for me¡­ 73 jerry n9lya

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of kd4qit@...
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 9:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can't get the Dang VARA to run correctly

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Dave,

To be honest I think its C:\ vara\ vara.exe but not sure can't access the?page to check any of that !! When you go to drop down to load vara in rms?express and click open it starts to launch vara but before it finishes loading the page disappears so all those settings are not accessible I've?reinstalled the software with same issue im?complexed on the thing !!? I don't know if reinstalling Rms express will help or not don't want to lose my address book and the settings in rms?express?trying that.
jeff k4jtn


Re: Can't get the Dang VARA to run correctly

 

Dave,

To be honest I think its C:\ vara\ vara.exe but not sure can't access the?page to check any of that !! When you go to drop down to load vara in rms?express and click open it starts to launch vara but before it finishes loading the page disappears so all those settings are not accessible I've?reinstalled the software with same issue im?complexed on the thing !!? I don't know if reinstalling Rms express will help or not don't want to lose my address book and the settings in rms?express?trying that.
jeff k4jtn


Re: Can't get the Dang VARA to run correctly

 

Jeff,

Sorry you're having such difficulty. First, show me the path to the VARA directory.

Dave - W7EES


Can't get the Dang VARA to run correctly

 

Hello All,

I'm?little frustrated with this software been trying for several hours over a couple days trying to get this thing going !!. I had to reinstall the software because some file was missing so its installed correctly so I go into RMS Express to load the software to do some testing.?The selection from the drop-down made click open says launching software then the page disappears so haven't been able to do any setup with it because it says a vara session is active but can't edit anything!!? The screen that allows you to edit settings frequency and etc is not visible?ive?looked everywhere help!! Windows? 10 desktop running winlink?express version 1.5.16.0 VARA version 2.2.1.?I'm?walking away at the moment any help would be great!!
jeff k4jtn


Re: Curious findings...

 

Winlink is an organization, not a mode or a modem.

I agree that we shouldn't get hung up with misinformation and stick to the subject of the group.

Hope to hear you using VARA when propagation improves! I'm seeing multiple weak signals from the East in the early morning hours here in the West.

73 - Dave - W7EES


Re: Curious findings...

 

I've have lots of reservations regarding the Winlink group since it was introduced in the 90's. I don't like that radio traffic is so easily routed to the internet, depriving RF networks of activity. The disappearence of the local packet network is the result here. The Newington, CT book publishing company who claims to be the National Organization of Ham Radio, struts around glad handing and back slapping as the entire RF network sinks into oblivion because of their support for the use of internet routing. The NTS has suffered costly losses due to their ineptitude. I participate in the WL2K network reporting service, which I find a useful resource for locating RF participants. I don't condone deliberate bypassing of the RF network by IP routing, although I have some connections there. Propagation conditions and an otherwise dead packet network provide few options. VARA is not an exclusive Winlink group modem, contrary to popular belief. It's being used here and elsewhere on BPQ hosted? HF links. There is a misconception that Winlink is a mode. Winlink is the name of an organization. See:?https://winlink.org/? Their web page says it in plain english. Global Radio Email. There are Host programs and Modems, even some Terminal Node Controllers out there. I don't recall the name Winlink associated with any of them. Maybe a brief review of Title 47, Part 97, Subpart B, 97.115 would be helpful. I don't see that sending e-mail via any digital mode is illegal, as long as you follow simple rules.

Dave - W7EES


Re: Curious findings...

Don - W9JUN
 

Definitely need to discuss the pros and cons. This is how our networks can continually evolve into a more efficient use of equipment and frequency allocation.

There is something for all of us in this hobby. VARA is new to me but making some headway, so will see where it goes from here.


Re: Curious findings...

 

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All of our gateway operators only allow messages originated by hams, so has not been a problem for us.

Like any tool, Winlink can be misused. ?And there are other tools that we can use like Fldigi that don¡¯t have the complication of interfacing directly with the internet.

Let¡¯s talk about the neat stuff we can do with Vara, since that is the name of the group!

Using Vara-FM on a local repeater and it goes blindingly fast (over 3000 bps). ?We use RMS Express Winlink to tie into our local BPQ32 system and it beats packet hands down. ?Easy to use client and BPQ32 makes the routing over HF easy.

¡ªJeff AE5ME



On Nov 29, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Tadd KA2DEW in NC via Groups.Io <tadd@...> wrote:

Winlink is not a good thing to have a ham radio project associated with.
As far as I know, the gateway operators never make sure the messages they are sending are signed by a ham. ?If they are not signed by a ham, then the gateway operator is responsible for the content. ?As far as I can tell, the advocates for Winlink know that it is not legal and think the benefits outweigh the violation. ?

hmm¡­ say far away from people who think like that.?

Tadd / KA2DEW
tadd@...
Raleigh NC ?FM05pv

¡°Packet networking over ham?radio":?
Local Raleigh ham radio info:?

On Nov 28, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Dave - W7EES <dwbogner@...> wrote:

I'm wondering why this thread died...

Maybe it was the presumption that it was linked to Winlink? Discontent lurks there.

73


Re: Curious findings...

 

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Winlink is not a good thing to have a ham radio project associated with.
As far as I know, the gateway operators never make sure the messages they are sending are signed by a ham. ?If they are not signed by a ham, then the gateway operator is responsible for the content. ?As far as I can tell, the advocates for Winlink know that it is not legal and think the benefits outweigh the violation. ?

hmm¡­ say far away from people who think like that.?

Tadd / KA2DEW
tadd@...
Raleigh NC ?FM05pv

¡°Packet networking over ham?radio":?
Local Raleigh ham radio info:?

On Nov 28, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Dave - W7EES <dwbogner@...> wrote:

I'm wondering why this thread died...

Maybe it was the presumption that it was linked to Winlink? Discontent lurks there.

73


Curious findings...

 

I'm wondering why this thread died...

Maybe it was the presumption that it was linked to Winlink? Discontent lurks there.

73


Another connect

Don - W9JUN
 

Another connection: 11/25/18

JEFFCO:W9JUN-7}?Heard?List?for?Port?5
KN4IEB+????00:00:31:42??7.1045


Garbled responses from the VARA modem.

 

I mentioned in previous postings elsewhere, some of us are receiving strange reply messages from the VARA modem. An example that I posted earlier:

I'm running BPQ v. 6.0.17.1 with VARA v.2.2.1 and I notice in the BPQ
VARA Modem monitor and in the bpq bbs log, the following entry:

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181124 11:43:35 |N9LYA???? Connecting to BBS N9LYA
181124 11:43:35 <N9LYA???? *** CONNECTED
181124 11:43:35 >N9LYA???? ATTACH 9
181124 11:43:36 <N9LYA???? HLSBHF:W7EES-1} Ok
181124 11:43:36 >N9LYA???? MAXCONREQ=10
181124 11:43:36 <N9LYA???? VARA} OK
181124 11:43:36 >N9LYA???? RADIO 7.101 USB 1 D
181124 11:43:37 <N9LYA???? Frequency and Mode Set OK
181124 11:43:37 ?N9LYA???? Script PAUSE 3
181124 11:43:40 <N9LYA???? Pause Ok
181124 11:43:40 >N9LYA???? C N9LYA
181124 11:44:47 <N9LYA???? VARA} Failure with W7EES N9LY
181124 11:44:47 |N9LYA???? N9LYA Disconnected

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Note the entry at 11:44:47 - VARA} Failure with W7EES N9LY

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The connect request initiated with C N9LYA in the BBS connect script and
as shown in the log does not include W7EES, yet it appears in the VARA}
response. Is this being sent by the VARA modem to the sound card that
way? It may explain why I'm not connecting to N9LYA. (More likely,
propagation, but it's odd.) Exchanges with other stations do not include
W7EES in the string.

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181124 12:32:42 |K7GJT???? Connecting to BBS K7GJT
181124 12:32:42 <K7GJT???? *** CONNECTED
181124 12:32:42 >K7GJT???? ATTACH 9
181124 12:32:43 <K7GJT???? HLSBHF:W7EES-1} Ok
181124 12:32:43 >K7GJT???? MAXCONREQ=10
181124 12:32:43 <K7GJT???? VARA} OK
181124 12:32:43 >K7GJT???? RADIO 3.592 USB 1 D
181124 12:32:44 <K7GJT???? Frequency and Mode Set OK
181124 12:32:44 ?K7GJT???? Script PAUSE 3
181124 12:32:47 <K7GJT???? Pause Ok
181124 12:32:47 >K7GJT???? C K7GJT
181124 12:33:52 <K7GJT???? VARA} Failure with K7GJT
181124 12:33:52 |K7GJT???? K7GJT Disconnected

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I have searched high and low for erroneous entries with no success.
Where else might this be coming from ?

To update this - I had previously thought this was caused by overrunning the text comment field limit in bpq32.cfg, VARA port setup. It turns out that it is not. I see, today, after calling N9LYA and receiving a Failed to connect message:

181125 17:41:53 |N9LYA Connecting to BBS N9LYA
181125 17:41:53 <N9LYA *** CONNECTED
181125 17:41:53 >N9LYA ATTACH 9
181125 17:41:53 <N9LYA HLSBHF:W7EES-1} Ok
181125 17:41:53 >N9LYA MAXCONREQ=10
181125 17:41:54 <N9LYA VARA} OK
181125 17:41:54 >N9LYA RADIO 7.101 USB 1 D
181125 17:41:55 <N9LYA Frequency and Mode Set OK
181125 17:41:55 ?N9LYA Script PAUSE 3
181125 17:41:58 <N9LYA Pause Ok
181125 17:41:58 >N9LYA C N9LYA
181125 17:43:07 <N9LYA VARA} Failure with W7EES N9LYN-
181125 17:43:07 |N9LYA N9LYA Disconnected

Note in the second from the last line above, VARA is reporting Failure with W7EES N9LYN-

So, it would appear that the source of this entry remains a mystery.

- Dave - W7EES

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Subscriptions

Don - W9JUN
 

Nice to see we are up to 18 subscribers


Re: VARA Task Resources

Jerome Kutche
 

I have noticed that as well But even when its running CPU at 100% it seems to work fine.. 73 jk


Re: Moderators wanted

Don
 

I'm interested


Moderators wanted

Jerome Kutche
 

I see we are up to 12 members.. Anyone wishing to assist with moderation. Please send me a reply.
I will look at between 6 and 8 moderators and expand as membership maybe require..

Welcome to all. 73 jerry n9lya


VARA Task Resources

Don
 

Aside from all the other resource hogs windows forces us to deal with, VARA uses the most CPU over many of the windows services.

Is that your experience, so far?


Welcome new members to this new Group

Jerome Kutche
 

Good day all.
Hope everyone is doing well. I started this group, to allow us to interact on the VARA Program. Share input, ask questions, discover advantages and perfect our use of VARA.?

73 Jerry N9LYA


First Contact

Don
 
Edited

Well, after having to fix my antenna the dark after an ice storm, I have make my first VARA contact, although brief. A little after 1300z today, I had a brief connect with w7ees. So, nice to see a little progress because the mic, power out, and sound card settings is a bit vague with the IC-707.