Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode
I always read these stories of sound device issues but never experienced anything. I have never seen the COM port issue. But with Windows 11 24H2 and the first update after that, I had to spend hours resetting the audio devices. Nothing was unplugged during the update. But upon restart, devices were reassigned and some devices were outright reconfigured. After I had the sound devices properly reassigned, then I had to go over the volume levels. Hours of work to get things back to what I had just prior to the update. And even on my regular desktop and laptop, that have no radio software installed, I had to make a change to the sound device assignment. So yep, it does indeed happen., Nothing to do with unplugging and reconnecting cables.
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The good news is that these major updates don't roll out so often. I'll likely not need to change anything again for several months. And before the next major update I plan to take screen snapshots of volume levels so I will be prepared if I need to reset volume levels again.
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In short, some - not all - of the updates do change things. Been there and saw it with my own eyes.
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Doug / N3JXB
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Re: Channel Busy ver 4.87
Are your audio in and out devices still correct, and not corrupted? It's better now, but Windows updates have in the past messed big-time with DAX devices.
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Ted VE3TRQ
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Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode
I agree with Greg.? Just like with MacOS & Linux (which I also use), you can reduce your issues by reusing the same USB ports for each peripheral as the OS remembers the last one (if it¡¯s not already used by another peripheral), and otherwise you¡¯ll need to re-point apps to the new port. ? There¡¯s no escaping the fact that the vast majority of ham radio apps are for Windows and Android, for good reason for developers.? Linux is growing, which is a good alternative if you can give up your fav Windows apps or find out that they run on a Windows API stack on Linux (not often; eg MS Office does not). ? You can always run a virtual machine layer on MacOS, but you have to buy a Windows license anyway for that.? VMware¡¯s Fusion (which costs $) provides the best networking compatibility, inc USB, but you can try the free VirtualBox from Oracle that can be made to work most of the time after jumping through some hoops.? YMMV, as I have not bothered to spend my time on getting VARA to work in a Windows VM, since it works so well on my native Windows metal. ? Stephen W9SK ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave New, N8SBE Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 2:58 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] RMS relay and RMS trimode ? Greg, I really don't understand all the 'windows updates trash my ports', trash talk. My shack computer started out as a Windows 10 laptop, that was then updated to Windows 11, and through that and all the various subsequent security and feature updates, I have NEVER experienced any port mess up, mysterious volume control changes, or ANY of the stuff that so many folks keep slamming Windows over. WTF are you guys doing to your systems to get such bad behavior? I DO remember to ALWAYS plug my USB cables in to the exact same physical ports from each of my devices (including an external hub).? And I ensure that my cables are plugged in and the devices are turned on, BEFORE I start up any apps that use those devices. Those two edicts have safely kept me out of the 'Windows trashes my ports' business. I'm sure YMMV, but please give it a rest, blaming Windows for everything.? It's simply not so... 73,
-- Dave, N8SBE, Hamshack Hotline 590-0971, HamsOverIP 101018, AmateurWire 1348 On 2024-12-16 10:11, Greg Lane via groups.io wrote: Hi Wayne, I have been using both VARA HF, VARA VHF, VARAC,and Winlink on my system setup,? The only caution I can share is when WIN11 does a update your?com ports can really screw up all your settings. When I participated in the 12 Dec EDM member exercises I paused my updates. However after I turned them back on and all my ports are trash ?and? now I am back to establishing all my ports. I'll send you a direct email if you want to check out all the RMS stations available, including the MESH ones.
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Dave,? Thx for your input 73 de Greg?
Greg,
I really don't understand all the 'windows updates trash my ports', trash talk.
My shack computer started out as a Windows 10 laptop, that was then updated to Windows 11, and through that and all the various subsequent security and feature updates, I have NEVER experienced any port mess up, mysterious volume control changes, or ANY of the stuff that so many folks keep slamming Windows over.
WTF are you guys doing to your systems to get such bad behavior?
I DO remember to ALWAYS plug my USB cables in to the exact same physical ports from each of my devices (including an external hub).? And I ensure that my cables are plugged in and the devices are turned on, BEFORE I start up any apps that use those devices.
Those two edicts have safely kept me out of the 'Windows trashes my ports' business.
I'm sure YMMV, but please give it a rest, blaming Windows for everything.? It's simply not so...
73,
-- Dave, N8SBE, Hamshack Hotline 590-0971, HamsOverIP 101018, AmateurWire 1348
On 2024-12-16 10:11, Greg Lane via wrote:
Hi Wayne,
I have been using both VARA HF, VARA VHF, VARAC,and Winlink on my system setup,? The only caution I can share is when WIN11 does a update your?com ports can really screw up all your settings. When I participated in the 12 Dec EDM member exercises I paused my updates.
However after I turned them back on and all my ports are trash
?and? now I am back to establishing all my ports. I'll send you a direct email if you want to check out all the RMS stations available, including the MESH ones.
73 de Greg
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Greg,
I really don't understand all the 'windows updates trash my ports', trash talk.
My shack computer started out as a Windows 10 laptop, that was then updated to Windows 11, and through that and all the various subsequent security and feature updates, I have NEVER experienced any port mess up, mysterious volume control changes, or ANY of the stuff that so many folks keep slamming Windows over.
WTF are you guys doing to your systems to get such bad behavior?
I DO remember to ALWAYS plug my USB cables in to the exact same physical ports from each of my devices (including an external hub).? And I ensure that my cables are plugged in and the devices are turned on, BEFORE I start up any apps that use those devices.
Those two edicts have safely kept me out of the 'Windows trashes my ports' business.
I'm sure YMMV, but please give it a rest, blaming Windows for everything.? It's simply not so...
73,
-- Dave, N8SBE, Hamshack Hotline 590-0971, HamsOverIP 101018, AmateurWire 1348
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On 2024-12-16 10:11, Greg Lane via groups.io wrote:
Hi Wayne,
I have been using both VARA HF, VARA VHF, VARAC,and Winlink on my system setup,? The only caution I can share is when WIN11 does a update your?com ports can really screw up all your settings. When I participated in the 12 Dec EDM member exercises I paused my updates.
However after I turned them back on and all my ports are trash
?and? now I am back to establishing all my ports. I'll send you a direct email if you want to check out all the RMS stations available, including the MESH ones.
73 de Greg
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Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode
And to answer your original question...
Yes, RMS Relay is the store and forward component and RMS Trimode is the HF scanner (not VHF) for ARDOP, PACTOR and Vara HF. For VHF connections, use RMS Packet which in addition to AX.25 packet, also does Vara FM. Both RMS Trimode and RMS Packet work with RMS Relay. Support for these applications is on Google Groups:
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Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode
Hi Wayne, I have been using both VARA HF, VARA VHF, VARAC,and Winlink on my system setup,? The only caution I can share is when WIN11 does a update your?com ports can really screw up all your settings. When I participated in the 12 Dec EDM member exercises I paused my updates. However after I turned them back on and all my ports are trash ?and? now I am back to establishing all my ports. I'll send you a direct email if you want to check out all the RMS stations available, including the MESH ones. 73 de Greg
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Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode
Wayne to answeryour question.? You will connect to trimode with vara. Depending on the setup at sysop you have few options If sysop is jyst a radio only store and forward If sysop os part of yhe hybrid system then you mail send or received using vara willbe collected / forwarded via the hybrid portion of the sysopsystem via www or via radio Yes trimode connects to hf and also vhf woth different software packaged using vara as a digital mode. It also support pactor 1-4, ardop and robust packet.? Hope this answers your question Greetings from the Namib
Pieter Jacobs +264811277615 NETS NTNSS De v51pj
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On 16 Dec 2024, at 13:30, Wayne Francis via groups.io <w3hiz@...> wrote:
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Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode
This is a Winlink question not a VARA question.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Wayne Francis via groups.io" <w3hiz@...> Date: 12/16/24 5:52 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: [VARA-MODEM] RMS relay and RMS trimode
Hi All,
Do I understand that RMS relay is the storing and forwarding of traffic,
and RMS trimode is the scanner to pick up traffic?
Do they work together?
Thanks, from a newbie.
Wayne
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RMS relay and RMS trimode
Hi All,
Do I understand that RMS relay is the storing and forwarding of traffic,
and RMS trimode is the scanner to pick up traffic?
Do they work together?
Thanks, from a newbie.
Wayne
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Re: Channel Busy ver 4.87
You are a couple of versions behind on VARA HF, may I suggest you update that first.
I use my Flex daily with VARA HF with no issues, can you tell me where your VU meter on VARA sits? I set my levels for that to be right at 12 o'clock.
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Gary Mitchelson
NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15
NC AHIMT COML
SHARES NCS997
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VARA wouldn't work without update?
HI All,
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I was out in the boonies yesterday and went to send a message using VARA and Winlink. Wasn't crucial but it was to let the family know where I was and what was going on as weather had prevented sticking to the plan. So not critical but I did want to get a message through.
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When I tried I could hit a receiving stations but I would not pick up their replies although I could hear them. I got at least one email acknowledging a contact with a new station so I know I was hitting them. Got back home and hooked up to the shack radio and expereinced the same thing. Updated VARA HF modem and it works now.
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My question is, does this happen often? New updates break the old version? Yes, I can try to remember to update before a trip, even though needing to do that sucks. But what if a disaster happens and I haven't updated? Is this a rare thing or do updates often break VARA?
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On the duh side I should have tried ARDOP or whatever else there is. That was a major stupid on my part.
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I am running a Flex 6400 with the most recent version of SmartSDR (3.8.19 etc). I am using Vara HF 4.87 and Winlink Express 1.7.20. My computer runs windows 11.
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Recently both VARA and Smart SDR were upgraded. At some point after that Vara would not play nice with the Flex. I have gone through all the prior postings, adjusted my filters, set up CAT and PTT on Slice B (the only thing I am using at present on Slice B), and made the appropriate changes in the setup in Winlink. WSJTX runs just fine and have not had a problem with it. I get the red channel busy box when opening a session and will not connect for auto-connect but will try for individual stations, although showing the channel busy block.?
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I have tried everything I can think of, any suggestions?
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Bob?
W5APO
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Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question
Greg
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This morning I connected to KD0SFY in Colorado Springs on 40 meters... not exactly NW USA but not in the expected coverage area of my inverted V. I also connected once to a 20 meter gateway in Australia from Texas. Elevated dipoles and Yagis would probably work better at distant stations especially at night on 40 meters, so its not that hard to believe that activity on the opposite side of the country would affect usage on the other side.
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The WDT has the right to moderate usage of the Winlink system, and the messages I was referring to were posted on the Winlink forum after the fact.
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John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question
Jeff I was able to connect to your gateway this morning just fine. Maybe it is propagation or maybe less people are using your gateway. When I send Winlink checkins I sometimes try alternate gateways instead of using the same ones repeatedly.
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John Denison
KD5YOU
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Re: vara hf sending issue
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On Dec 14, 2024, at 3:11?PM, Thomas KF7RSF via groups.io <tnoel@...> wrote:
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Post the full text of a VARA HF session window. And, add your Call sign to your posts,to enable a Winlink Admin to check your account.
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Thomas? /WDT
KF7RSF
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Richard,
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Post the full text of a VARA HF session window. And, add your Call sign to your posts,to enable a Winlink Admin to check your account.
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Thomas? /WDT
KF7RSF
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Re: vara hf sending issue
Richard (call sign?) wrote¡ ¡but the email stayed in the Outbox. Any ideas what is causing this issue? When you connect to an RMS, the message must be in Winlink format. Perhaps it was in P2P mode. If so, just open the message and change it. -- 73 Keith VE7GDH
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I was able to connect to a gateway using ?vara hf. ?I could not get my Winlink Outbox email to go out, ?The vara dashboard was all in the green. the S/N was at the bottom of the green area. MY radio(Ftdx10) was transmitting just fine, but the email stayed in the Outbox. ?Any ideas what is causing this issue?
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Ted VE3TRQ
Stephen W9SK
Scott Currie
Jim Ebner
Thomas KF7RSF