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Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode

 

And to answer your original question...
Yes, RMS Relay is the store and forward component and RMS Trimode is the HF scanner (not VHF) for ARDOP, PACTOR and Vara HF. For VHF connections, use RMS Packet which in addition to AX.25 packet, also does Vara FM. Both RMS Trimode and RMS Packet work with RMS Relay. Support for these applications is on Google Groups:
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-Scott, NS7C


Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode

 

Hi Wayne,
I have been using both VARA HF, VARA VHF, VARAC,and Winlink on my system setup,? The only caution I can share is when WIN11 does a update your?com ports can really screw up all your settings. When I participated in the 12 Dec EDM member exercises I paused my updates.
However after I turned them back on and all my ports are trash
?and? now I am back to establishing all my ports. I'll send you a direct email if you want to check out all the RMS stations available, including the MESH ones.
73 de Greg


Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode

 

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Wayne to answeryour question.?
You will connect to trimode with vara. Depending on the setup at sysop you have few options
If sysop is jyst a radio only store and forward
If sysop os part of yhe hybrid system then you mail send or received using vara willbe collected / forwarded via the hybrid portion of the sysopsystem via www or via radio
Yes trimode connects to hf and also vhf woth different software packaged using vara as a digital mode. It also support pactor 1-4, ardop and robust packet.?
Hope this answers your question
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On 16 Dec 2024, at 13:30, Wayne Francis via groups.io <w3hiz@...> wrote:

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OK OM
Wayne


Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode

Wayne Francis
 

OK OM
Wayne


Re: RMS relay and RMS trimode

 

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This is a Winlink question not a VARA question.?



Thanks and 73,
Jim, N8JE?



-------- Original message --------
From: "Wayne Francis via groups.io" <w3hiz@...>
Date: 12/16/24 5:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [VARA-MODEM] RMS relay and RMS trimode

Hi All,
Do I understand that RMS relay is the storing and forwarding of traffic,
and RMS trimode is the scanner to pick up traffic?
Do they work together?
Thanks, from a newbie.
Wayne


RMS relay and RMS trimode

Wayne Francis
 

Hi All,
Do I understand that RMS relay is the storing and forwarding of traffic,
and RMS trimode is the scanner to pick up traffic?
Do they work together?
Thanks, from a newbie.
Wayne


Re: Channel Busy ver 4.87

 

You are a couple of versions behind on VARA HF, may I suggest you update that first.

I use my Flex daily with VARA HF with no issues, can you tell me where your VU meter on VARA sits? I set my levels for that to be right at 12 o'clock.

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Gary Mitchelson
NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15
NC AHIMT COML
SHARES NCS997


VARA wouldn't work without update?

 

HI All,
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I was out in the boonies yesterday and went to send a message using VARA and Winlink. Wasn't crucial but it was to let the family know where I was and what was going on as weather had prevented sticking to the plan. So not critical but I did want to get a message through.
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When I tried I could hit a receiving stations but I would not pick up their replies although I could hear them. I got at least one email acknowledging a contact with a new station so I know I was hitting them. Got back home and hooked up to the shack radio and expereinced the same thing. Updated VARA HF modem and it works now.
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My question is, does this happen often? New updates break the old version? Yes, I can try to remember to update before a trip, even though needing to do that sucks. But what if a disaster happens and I haven't updated? Is this a rare thing or do updates often break VARA?
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On the duh side I should have tried ARDOP or whatever else there is. That was a major stupid on my part.


Channel Busy ver 4.87

 

I am running a Flex 6400 with the most recent version of SmartSDR (3.8.19 etc). I am using Vara HF 4.87 and Winlink Express 1.7.20. My computer runs windows 11.
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Recently both VARA and Smart SDR were upgraded. At some point after that Vara would not play nice with the Flex. I have gone through all the prior postings, adjusted my filters, set up CAT and PTT on Slice B (the only thing I am using at present on Slice B), and made the appropriate changes in the setup in Winlink. WSJTX runs just fine and have not had a problem with it. I get the red channel busy box when opening a session and will not connect for auto-connect but will try for individual stations, although showing the channel busy block.?
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I have tried everything I can think of, any suggestions?
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Bob?
W5APO


Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

Greg
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This morning I connected to KD0SFY in Colorado Springs on 40 meters... not exactly NW USA but not in the expected coverage area of my inverted V. I also connected once to a 20 meter gateway in Australia from Texas. Elevated dipoles and Yagis would probably work better at distant stations especially at night on 40 meters, so its not that hard to believe that activity on the opposite side of the country would affect usage on the other side.
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The WDT has the right to moderate usage of the Winlink system, and the messages I was referring to were posted on the Winlink forum after the fact.
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73
John Denison
KD5YOU


Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

Jeff I was able to connect to your gateway this morning just fine. Maybe it is propagation or maybe less people are using your gateway. When I send Winlink checkins I sometimes try alternate gateways instead of using the same ones repeatedly.
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John Denison
KD5YOU


Re: vara hf sending issue

RICHARD PLOTKIN
 

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Sorry, I thought I did?

Richard A. Plotkin?
KZ4JV



On Dec 14, 2024, at 3:11?PM, Thomas KF7RSF via groups.io <tnoel@...> wrote:

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Richard,
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Post the full text of a VARA HF session window. And, add your Call sign to your posts,to enable a Winlink Admin to check your account.
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Thomas? /WDT
KF7RSF


Re: vara hf sending issue

 

Richard,
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Post the full text of a VARA HF session window. And, add your Call sign to your posts,to enable a Winlink Admin to check your account.
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Thomas? /WDT
KF7RSF


Re: vara hf sending issue

 

Richard (call sign?) wrote…

…but the email stayed in the Outbox. Any ideas what is causing this issue?
When you connect to an RMS, the message must be in Winlink format. Perhaps it was in P2P mode. If so, just open the message and change it.

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73 Keith VE7GDH


vara hf sending issue

RICHARD PLOTKIN
 

I was able to connect to a gateway using ?vara hf. ?I could not get my Winlink Outbox email to go out, ?The vara dashboard was all in the green. the S/N was at the bottom of the green area. MY radio(Ftdx10) was transmitting just fine, but the email stayed in the Outbox. ?Any ideas what is causing this issue?
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Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

John,
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I have several issues with WDT making those kinds of blanket statements.
  • It makes it sound as though Winlink, a system with gateways around the world, cannot cope with routine communications at the same time as the volume of traffic expected during a localized disaster. Is the system less robust than we're led to believe?
  • It ignores the fact that normal Winlink use in areas not affected by a localized disaster or in an area likely to be the target for getting communications out of the disaster area has absolutely no impact on disaster traffic. Should European (or NW USA) users stop holding routine nets when a hurricane strikes Florida?
  • It ignores the fact that Winlink has a broad network (SHARES) operating outside of the US amateur bands specifically or the use of government and essential facilities use.
  • It ignores the fact that US amateur operators are already required by 47 CFR 97.101 to "give priority to stations providing emergency communications" and not to cause interference to "any radio communications." Does WDT feel the need to treat all amateur radio operators, worldwide, as children instead of thinking adults?
  • The notice posted on the Winlink website (with a worldwide reach) asked to suspend all routine traffic "until further notice." However, "further notice was never posted on the website. The request simply disappeared. And the suspension request continued to be propagated on social media well after the WDT request disappeared.
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We should use our heads, use common sense, and be considerate of others. I don't need WDT to tell me that.
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Greg, KW6GB
47 CFR 97.101(d)
47 CFR 97.101(d)


Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

?I remember that being said, but I also remember that it was posted that normal traffic was allowed. Am I mistaken?
Jeff

On Friday, December 13, 2024 at 03:19:44 PM CST, John Denison via groups.io <kd5you@...> wrote:


Greg
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I think you misunderstood Yigal's statement. During times of disaster like during a hurricane making landfall or during recovery efforts, its advisable to not practice making connections to Winlink gateways while other people in disaster zones might need to use them. The Winlink Development Team has made it clear that we should refrain from sending low priority messages, i.e. Winlink check ins, test messages, etc. until regular communications have been restored in the affected areas.
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73
John Denison
KD5YOU


Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

Greg
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I think you misunderstood Yigal's statement. During times of disaster like during a hurricane making landfall or during recovery efforts, its advisable to not practice making connections to Winlink gateways while other people in disaster zones might need to use them. The Winlink Development Team has made it clear that we should refrain from sending low priority messages, i.e. Winlink check ins, test messages, etc. until regular communications have been restored in the affected areas.
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73
John Denison
KD5YOU


Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

Yigal,
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Who is making calls NOT to use Winlink, except for emergency communications!?!? It should be used enough on "blue sky" days so that it is simply routine when needed in an emergency. I'm thankful that firefighters don't only train during live structure fires!
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Practice, practice, practice so you'll be proficient when needed... and know from day to day that your station and the RMS stations you hope to use are functioning properly.
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Yikes,
Greg Butler, KW6GB


Re: K4HVF with a Gateway usage question

 

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There were some calls in the past 3 months to reduce usage and limit it for emergency comms.

Perhaps that's part of the reason?

Yigal/K2EFG

-Yigal M. Rechtman

YouTube.com/k2efg


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Yigal Rechtman