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Jackman/Porter Marriage
I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah
Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah is mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer County, KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists his children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot find the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date that marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL |
*I have been in Florida since November and do not have my genealogy books,
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but I do have notes on my computer. I have been working on several unrelated lines, so* *I am not sure what I have already sent. I am reviewing my notes to determine what entries may give you direction, so bear with me if you already have some of this.* *My own comments in blue. I tried to concentrate upon the land. I hope something yields a clue.* *Charlene* * *IN MY NOTES FROM ANOTHER RESEARCHER WHO COULD NOT REMEMBER THE SOURCE BOOK* pages 461-467.*22-23 June 1766.*lease&release.between William Hunton and Judith,his wife,and Richard Chichester, of Lan.Co.,Gent....whereon Wm. Hunton lately lived.....328 a....*128 a. purch.of Thomas Porter and Sarah,his wife...* 25&26 march 1761 and *100 a.purch.of Samuel porter and Eve,his wife...* *26 march 1761* and 100 a. purch. of Joseph Hitt and Mary his wife,*Harman Kamper(Kemper) & Catherine,his wife(Catherine /Katherine Cuntze-Kemperwas the sister of Ann Elizabeth Cuntze-Weaver) * and *Ann Elizabeth Weaver...*.*(Widow of Tighlman and mother of Sarah WEAVER-PORTER)* 27-28 may 1762...#310 siged: Wm. Hunton, Judith Hunton.rec 23 June 1766, ack.by grantors. now on page 20 of this book:pages 323-328,27 may 1762.lease. Joseph Hitt & Mary his wife Harman Kamper& Catherine,his wife and Ann Elizabeth Weaver to William Hunton...100 a..bounded by lands of Armistead Churchhill,esq.,William Russell and lands of the said* William Hunton,which he purchased of Thomas and Samuel Porter and is the land which descended to the said Mary,Catherine,and Ann Elizabeth sisters and coheiresses of Tilman Weaver,dec,d...for one year.*..signed:all grantors.rec:*28 may 1762,ack. by granors Hunton had already bought Eva,s and Sarah's,shares** ,not long after Tilman,s death*, it's been a while sense I've look at this,I had forgotten that only one of the girls was not married. I'm not along on this conclusion, there are other genealogist that see the same thing, Sarah and Eva would *hare* not have had any part in this transaction unless they were daughters also. ** James Hughes 2006-06-09 16:58:16 Fauquier County, Virginia. Deed Bk. 7 *p. 75 April 26, 1779 * Between FRANCIS WHITING of Fauquier Co. and (to) HUMPHREY BROOKE AND Anne HIS WIFE in consideration of natural love and affection Francis Whiting has for Humphrey Brooke and Anne his wife.. bounded ... lands of RICHARD CHICHESTER,* SAMUEL PORTER, THOMAS PORTER, *GEORGE BOSWELL, line of COL. HENRY FITZHUGH* between the Branch and TURKEY RUN* to them during their natural lives ...* proved at court April 1779 * ** Descendants of Tillman Weaver, Weber 1 Tillman Weaver, Weber 1701 - 1760 b: 1701 in Eisern, Eiserfeld, Nassau Siegen, Germany d: Bef. 03/27/1760 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. .. +Anna Elisabeth(Annalis) Cuntze, Kuntze 1708 - 1780 b: 12/23/1708 in Oberfishbach, Germany d: Abt. 1780 in Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Ann Weaver 1725 - 1797 b: 1725 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1797 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +John George Kemper 1722 - 1799 b: 05/17/1722 in Germantown, Culpeper Co., Va. d: Bef. 02/1799 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ..... 2 Mary Ann Weaver 1726 - 1793 b: 1726 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1793 in Warrenton, Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +Harmon Hitt 1721 - 1820 b: 1721 in Germantown, Stafford Co., Virginia d: 1820 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ..... 2 Evelyn "Eva" Weaver 1730 - 1785 b: 1730 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: Abt. 1785 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ......... +Samuel Porter 1731 - 1807 b: Abt. 1731 in Warrington, Lancashire, England d: 10/21/1807 in Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Jacob Weaver 1735 - 1779 b: 1735 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 09/02/1779 in Johnstown, Tryon, New York ..... 2 Sarah "Sallie" Weaver 1728 - 1789 b: Bet. 1728 - 1737 d: 1789 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +Thomas Porter, Capt. AmRev 1734 - 1799 b: Bef. 03/22/1734 in St. Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England d: 05/1799 in Hamilton Parish, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Elizabeth Weaver 1736 - b: Abt. 1736 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Catherine Weaver 1738 - b: Abt. 1738 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Susannah Weaver 1744 - b: Abt. 1744 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 [1] Tillman Weaver, Jr. 1744 - b: Abt. 1744 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ......... +Susan Darnell 1767 - b: Bef. 1767 ..... *2nd Wife of [1] Tillman Weaver, Jr.: ......... +Elizabeth Harrison ..... 2 John Weaver 1745 - 1818 b: 03/04/1745 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 06/29/1818 ......... +Ann Darnall 1747 - 1795 b: 12/31/1747 d: Aft. 1795 *** Posted by: Meredith DeBuse (ID 4006) Date: July 05, 2007 at 18:51:27 In Reply to: Re: Porters in Fauquier Co. VA by Jim Ball of 8996 I can tell you abt one of the Porter families in Fauquier Co, VA. Samuel Porter who married Eve Weaver, was an immigrant to VA ca. 1740's. Sources say he came from Warrington, Lancashire England, with a bro Thomas. Thomas's christening record appeared in the Warrington Parish records, s/o Thomas Porter and Anne. No record of Samuel's birth has been found in Eng. or VA. Samuel was born abt 1732. He served in the Revolution and was taken prisoner in Quebec. He had a son Samuel who married Mary Withers. Their son, also Samuel, b 1799 m. Mary Grayson. His family migrated out of VA, to Todd Co, KY, Montgomery Co, IL, Linn co MO. Samuel's (3) sons William, John and Macauley, immigrated to the Oregon Territory from MO, in 1848. Abt 1862, their father Samuel and family followed his sons to Oregon with the remainder of the son's siblings. Samuel settled west of Roseburg, Douglas, Oregon, and died there abt 1875. His three oldest sons settled in Benton Co, OR. Who said the old timers didn't move around!! *My 2nd Great Grandfather William Jordan PORTER 5/2/1809--2/23/1905 Silex, Lincoln Co., Missouri* ALMOST A CENTURY William Porter, Probably the Oldest citizen of the County, Peacefully Passes Away. When a man as old in years, as ripe in experience and as rich in faith as was Mr. Porter is taken from us, we feel that the fact is deserving of more than passing newspaper notice, hence present below a few of the principal events in the life of this venerable citizen. William Porter was born at Crab Orchard, Ky., May 2 1809, and was married to Sarah Ann Richardson in Hart Co. Ky, Feb. 23 1833. He died at the home of his son in Silex, Mo., Feb. 23, 1905, aged 95 years, 9 months and 21 days. He was confined to his bed only about one week being able to wait upon himself up to that time, even making his own stove fires into January last. No disease was upon him-just a giving way-a wearing out of the whole human system: no pain attended his going. He slept from life to death, from mortality to immortality. His remains were laid away in the New Liberty cemetery beside his beloved wife, who died July 1, 1897. They spent sixty-four years of married life together and he died on the anniversary of his wedding day. Funeral services were conducted at Liberty church by Rev. J.M. Hughes, of the M.E. church, South, after which his body was tenderly laid away.He was of English and French descent, his mother being French. His grandfather came from England and settled in Fauquier co. Va., at an early day, and his sons removed to Kentucky in the early settling of that country. There the subject of this sketch was born, grew into manhood, married and lived until he was 56 years old or until 1865. In October of that year he moved to Lincoln Co. Mo. with all of his family except one son and there he lived his days and was "gathered to his fathers." *His grandfather had been in Virginia long enough that he had three sons at Yorktown when Cornwallis surrendered*.* (Thomas PORTER 1734-1799)* His father was born in 1778 and died in 1841, moved to Kentucky in 1808 and settled in Lincoln Co. Ky. He was often heard to say that deer were plentiful when he was a young man. He was the father of eleven children, nine sons and two daughters. Two of these children died in their childhood and the blue grass sod of Kentucky covers the little mounds where they were laid away. His oldest son Elias never moved to Missouri, but remained in Russelville, Ky., though he died in Lincoln co. Mo. while visiting his parents here, on 20 Oct. 1872. His youngest daughter, Sallie Porter Reeds, wife of H.F. Reeds,*(My Grt Grandparents)* recently of Troy, Mo. died November 25, 1875 in Lincoln co. Mo. His children that survive him are Norman Porter, of Silex; Henry and W.J. Porter of Corso; Mrs. I.J. Ingram of Ashley; C.E. Porter, of Bowling Green; L. B. Porter, of Silex and John Porter, of Boulder, Col. He had twenty one grandchildren and sixteen great grandchildren. He learned the blacksmith trade when a young man and followed that business until about 1858, when a protracted spell of fever left him unable to work longer. Since that time he has been relieved from the cares of an active business life, and his passing years were spent at his ease and in peace with the world. During the Civil War he was on the side of the Union because he thought it the side of right. he was not a soldier, being unable for duty. He was a republican in politics and a close reader, up to four months ago, of the papers, keeping in touch with all the doings of foreign countries as well as our own. Mr. Porter was a constant reader and there were few better historians, ancient and modern: he was a well posted Bible student and had in his mind a vivid political history of the world and especially of his own country-85 years of it by personal experience. He united with the Christian church when a young man, in the days of Alexander Campbell, whom he had heard preach on more than one occasion and remained strong in the faith to the end. He was an active church man throughout his active life: an elder for years, a leader of song service, was fond of reading the Scriptures and the Book of Job, particularly. Only a few days before he died he talked to the writer on the great question that Job asked, :If a man die, shall he live again. On the evening of the day before he died he said to his two sons who were by his side, "I am not going to die tonight," and the next morning told them "I will not live through the day," and he died at 1:30 p.m. **** From: BUCKYBARB To: TEbel2888 Edwin Porter, Thomas bondsman 9-25-1797 Polly Mauzy bondsman John Mauzy. Thomas he and Sarah Porter 1761 sell Wm Hunton 120 acres. Sons Wm, Thomas and Edwin. Samuel and Martin Porter. *Married children Hannah Jackman, *Sarah Scott, John deceased, Wm, Thomas, Charles and Edwin. not married Betty. William Porter (looks like Thomas son) married 1/27/1779 to Sarah Porter dau of Samuel. Thought this might clear up any confusion. Barb I read those children as the children of Thomas. This book with the abbreviations is very hard to interput. I am going to type the whole thing, you can interpret. Porter, Thomas. 59M, 78 BI, 81BC-99E.D 1-188, 1761. He and Sarah Porter sell William Hunton 120 a. at mouth of 120N fork of Cedar Run. D 2-401 & 405, 1765. Execs of Armistead Churchill sell 1.him 250a. and 2. Samuel Porter 262 a. part of Pageland. RR1770 250 a. W 3-184, 1799, pr M 14,634, June 1799 by Wiley Roy; sons William, Thomas, and Edwin execs with sec Samuel and Martin Porter. Married children: Hannah Jackman, Sarah Scott, Jon dec'd, William, Thomas, Charles, and Edwin; not married: Betty, Eli. M 14, 853, 1799. Eppa & Elizabeeth Porter ag his execs; *Thomas & Hannah Jackman;* John & Sarah Scott; Charles and Eli Porter; and heirs of John Porter by gdns Jane Porter and William Pepper. D14-351,1799. Voted *One of Thomas' brothers was Samuel. The two of them bought land together in Fauquier in 1765*. Prior to that *Thomas had sold some land in 1761*. Thomas was present on the surviving 1759 tax list of Thomas Marshall which indicates he was living around the Licking Run area in Fauquier. He was the only Porter on that particular list (relatively small area) and no tithables listed with him. In all likelihood, he was married by that time. *Tighlman WEAVER, father of Sarah WEAVER-PORTER d bef 3/27/1760 when his will was probated in Germantown, Fauquier Co., VA. Sarah, His daughter was not in his will yet she had land to sell. It is clear that she probably received her share upon marriage prior to her father's death.* rations: Will Book #1 * It appears that the comments in Parenthesis were added by an unknown researcer for clarification.* 1759-1783 Fauquier, Virginia Page 13 WEAVER, Tillman *14 December , 1759. 27 March, 1760* (Very Sick) Wife, Elizabeth Weaver, to have use of plantation, being land I bought of Martin Hardin and taken up by John Hardin. After decease of wife, land to go to son, Tillman Weaver. Slaves to be divided between sons Tillman, John, and Daughter Susannah Weaver. Wife to have livestock. Daughters Ann Kemper (Husband John) and Mary Hitt (Husband Harman) to have land in Culpepper County and Slaves. Eve Porter (Husband Samuel) to have land I bought of Charles Taylor. Daughter Elizabeth Weaver, to have 150 acres of land and slaves. Daughter Catherine Weaver, to have 150 acres of land and slaves. Son John Weaver, to have 150 acres and slaves. Son Jacob Weaver, to have 200 acres and slaves. *(Daughter Sarah "Sallie", who was still living when the will was written, was not named in the will, probably because she had already received her inheritance.)* Exrs: Wife, son Jacob, Samuel Porter (son-in-law). Wit: William Norman, Tillman Martin, Thomas Marshall. *The daughters were given 150 acres. Sarah Weaver and husband, Thomas Porter were in possession of 120 acres which they sold in 1761--after the death of Sarah's father.* *Thomas then bought other property in 1765. Thomas would not inherited land from his own father who did not to anyone's knowledge come to America. The land sold would probably* *have been Sarah's wedding gift.* On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 8:22 AM <jkarthur@...> wrote:
I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah |
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?? I hope her note went to the group list.? Being so new, I am unsure what works and how it works. ?? I would be a good candidate for a book or article titled, "VA-FAUQUIER Groups for Dummys" To the 'group':? Charlene is on excellent researcher.? She has informed many of us. ?? Also, I descend from Samuel Porter, probable brother of Thomas Porter. My Samuel Porter m'd Evelyn 'Eve' Weaver, dau of Tillman Weaver / Weber. Shirley Russell Starks sstarks@... On 4/19/2021 11:03 AM, Charlene Ebeling wrote:
*I have been in Florida since November and do not have my genealogy books, |
Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 by Alcott shows a Thomas Jackman, Deed Book 6-356 & 358, 1777. Divides 1740 grant between sons Thomas Jr and William. Wit: Joseph Jackman.
,123546,124277,127026,124456,124457&endDate=1776&startDate=1776&rmsId=TH-909-60887-243148-65&imageIndex=461&singleView=true Fauquier Co Deed Book 6, page 356 shows Thomas Sr gave Thomas Jr 150 acres. Pat Duncan From: jkarthur@...<mailto:jkarthur@...> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 6:19 AM To: '[email protected]'<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah is mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer County, KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists his children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot find the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date that marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL |
I wonder if that 150 acres was given to Sarah WEAVER by her father upon her
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marriage the Thomas Porter, as her sisters each received 150 acres in Tighlman Weaver’s will. PS Pat DUNCAN, I am a DUNCAN Desc. Of Fauquier—Joseph bc 1712 and Lydia On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM PAT DUNCAN <GenNutLdn@...> wrote:
Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 by Alcott shows a Thomas Jackman, Deed Book |
Hi Charlene,I don't think either one of us have a record of the deed
for the land that I think Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver gave to Thomas Jackman/Hannah Porter. That is what I am trying to find, but it is not in the records I have searched in Family Search. I did find when Thomas/Hannah sold it. She was listed in that deed transfer. That means there is another deed that has her name on it---somewhere in Fauquier County.Judy -----------------------------------------From: "Charlene Ebeling" To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 10:06:36AM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage *I have been in Florida since November and do not have my genealogy books, but I do have notes on my computer. I have been working on several unrelated lines, so* *I am not sure what I have already sent. I am reviewing my notes to determine what entries may give you direction, so bear with me if you already have some of this.* *My own comments in blue. I tried to concentrate upon the land. I hope something yields a clue.* *Charlene* * *IN MY NOTES FROM ANOTHER RESEARCHER WHO COULD NOT REMEMBER THE SOURCE BOOK* pages 461-467.*22-23 June 1766.*lease&release.between William Hunton and Judith,his wife,and Richard Chichester, of Lan.Co.,Gent....whereon Wm. Hunton lately lived.....328 a....*128 a. purch.of Thomas Porter and Sarah,his wife...* 25&26 march 1761 and *100 a.purch.of Samuel porter and Eve,his wife...* *26 march 1761* and 100 a. purch. of Joseph Hitt and Mary his wife,*Harman Kamper(Kemper) & Catherine,his wife(Catherine /Katherine Cuntze-Kemperwas the sister of Ann Elizabeth Cuntze-Weaver) * and *Ann Elizabeth Weaver...*.*(Widow of Tighlman and mother of Sarah WEAVER-PORTER)* 27-28 may 1762...#310 siged: Wm. Hunton, Judith Hunton.rec 23 June 1766, ack.by grantors. now on page 20 of this book:pages 323-328,27 may 1762.lease. Joseph Hitt & Mary his wife Harman Kamper& Catherine,his wife and Ann Elizabeth Weaver to William Hunton...100 a..bounded by lands of Armistead Churchhill,esq.,William Russell and lands of the said* William Hunton,which he purchased of Thomas and Samuel Porter and is the land which descended to the said Mary,Catherine,and Ann Elizabeth sisters and coheiresses of Tilman Weaver,dec,d...for one year.*..signed:all grantors.rec:*28 may 1762,ack. by granors Hunton had already bought Eva,s and Sarah's,shares** ,not long after Tilman,s death*, it's been a while sense I've look at this,I had forgotten that only one of the girls was not married. I'm not along on this conclusion, there are other genealogist that see the same thing, Sarah and Eva would *hare* not have had any part in this transaction unless they were daughters also. ** James Hughes 2006-06-09 16:58:16 Fauquier County, Virginia. Deed Bk. 7 /> *p. 75 April 26, 1779 * Between FRANCIS WHITING of Fauquier Co. and (to) HUMPHREY BROOKE AND Anne HIS WIFE in consideration of natural love and affection Francis Whiting has for Humphrey Brooke and Anne his wife.. bounded ... lands of RICHARD CHICHESTER,* SAMUEL PORTER, THOMAS PORTER, *GEORGE BOSWELL, line of COL. HENRY FITZHUGH* between the Branch and TURKEY RUN* to them during their natural lives ...* proved at court April 1779 * ** Descendants of Tillman Weaver, Weber 1 Tillman Weaver, Weber 1701 - 1760 b: 1701 in Eisern, Eiserfeld, Nassau Siegen, Germany d: Bef. 03/27/1760 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. .. +Anna Elisabeth(Annalis) Cuntze, Kuntze 1708 - 1780 b: 12/23/1708 in Oberfishbach, Germany d: Abt. 1780 in Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Ann Weaver 1725 - 1797 b: 1725 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1797 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +John George Kemper 1722 - 1799 b: 05/17/1722 in Germantown, Culpeper Co., Va. d: Bef. 02/1799 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ..... 2 Mary Ann Weaver 1726 - 1793 b: 1726 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1793 in Warrenton, Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +Harmon Hitt 1721 - 1820 b: 1721 in Germantown, Stafford Co., Virginia d: 1820 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ..... 2 Evelyn "Eva" Weaver 1730 - 1785 b: 1730 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: Abt. 1785 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ........ +Samuel Porter 1731 - 1807 b: Abt. 1731 in Warrington, Lancashire, England d: 10/21/1807 in Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Jacob Weaver 1735 - 1779 b: 1735 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 09/02/1779 in Johnstown, Tryon, New York ..... 2 Sarah "Sallie" Weaver 1728 - 1789 b: Bet. 1728 - 1737 d: 1789 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +Thomas Porter, Capt. AmRev 1734 - 1799 b: Bef. 03/22/1734 in St. Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England d: 05/1799 in Hamilton Parish, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Elizabeth Weaver 1736 - b: Abt. 1736 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Catherine Weaver 1738 - b: Abt. 1738 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Susannah Weaver 1744 - b: Abt. 1744 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. .... 2 [1] Tillman Weaver, Jr. 1744 - b: Abt. 1744 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ......... +Susan Darnell 1767 - b: Bef. 1767 ..... *2nd Wife of [1] Tillman Weaver, Jr.: ......... +Elizabeth Harrison ..... 2 John Weaver 1745 - 1818 b: 03/04/1745 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 06/29/1818 ......... +Ann Darnall 1747 - 1795 b: 12/31/1747 d: Aft. 1795 *** Posted by: Meredith DeBuse (ID 4006) Date: July 05, 2007 at 18:51:27 In Reply to: Re: Porters in Fauquier Co. VA by Jim Ball of 8996 I can tell you abt one of the Porter families in Fauquier Co, VA. Samuel Porter who married Eve Weaver, was an immigrant to VA ca. 1740's. Sources say he came from Warrington, Lancashire England, with a bro Thomas. Thomas's christening record appeared in the Warrington Parish records, s/o Thomas Porter and Anne. No record of Samuel's birth has been found in Eng. or VA. Samuel was born abt 1732. He served in the Revolution and was taken prisoner in Quebec. He had a son Samuel who married Mary Withers. Their son, also Samuel, b 1799 m. Mary Grayson. His family migrated out of VA, to Todd Co, KY, Montgomery Co, IL, Linn co MO. Samuel's (3) sons William, John and Macauley, immigrated to the Oregon Territory from MO, in 1848. Abt 1862, their father Samuel and family followed his sons to Oregon with the remainder of the son's siblings. Samuel settled west of Roseburg, Douglas, Oregon, and died there abt 1875. His three oldest sons settled in Benton Co, OR. Who said the old timers didn't move around!! *My 2nd Great Grandfather William Jordan PORTER 5/2/1809--2/23/1905 Silex, Lincoln Co., Missouri* ALMOST A CENTURY William Porter, Probably the Oldest citizen of the County, Peacefully Passes Away. When a man as old in years, as ripe in experience and as rich in faith as was Mr. Porter is taken from us, we feel that the fact is deserving of more than passing newspaper notice, hence present below a few of the principal events in the life of this venerable citizen. William Porter was born at Crab Orchard, Ky., May 2 1809, and was married to Sarah Ann Richardson in Hart Co. Ky, Feb. 23 1833. He died at the home of his son in Silex, Mo., Feb. 23, 1905, aged 95 years, 9 months and 21 days. He was confined to his bed only about one week being able to wait upon himself up to that time, even making his own stove fires into January last. No disease was upon him-just a giving way-a wearing out of the whole human system: no pain attended his going. He slept from life to death, from mortality to immortality. His remains were laid away in the New Liberty cemetery beside his beloved wife, who died July 1, 1897. They spent sixty-four years of married life together and he died on the anniversary of his wedding day. Funeral services were conducted at Liberty church by Rev. J.M. Hughes, of the M.E. church, South, after which his body was tenderly laid away.He was of English and French descent, his mother being French. His grandfather came from England and settled in Fauquier co. Va., at an early day, and his sons removed to Kentucky in the early settling of that country. There the subject of this sketch was born, grew into manhood, married and lived until he was 56 years old or until 1865. In October of that year he moved to Lincoln Co. Mo. with all of his family except one son and there he lived his days and was "gathered to his fathers." *His grandfather had been in Virginia long enough that he had three sons at Yorktown when Cornwallis surrendered*.* (Thomas PORTER 1734-1799)* His father was born in 1778 and died in 1841, moved to Kentucky in 1808 and settled in Lincoln Co. Ky. He was often heard to say that deer were plentiful when he was a young man. He was the father of eleven children, nine sons and two daughters. Two of these children died in their childhood and the blue grass sod of Kentucky covers the little mounds where they were laid away. His oldest son Elias never moved to Missouri, but remained in Russelville, Ky., though he died in Lincoln co. Mo. while visiting his parents here, on 20 Oct. 1872. His youngest daughter, Sallie Porter Reeds, wife of H.F. Reeds,*(My Grt Grandparents)* recently of Troy, Mo. died November 25, 1875 in Lincoln co. Mo. His children that survive him are Norman Porter, of Silex; Henry and W.J. Porter of Corso; Mrs. I.J. Ingram of Ashley; C.E. Porter, of Bowling Green; L. B. Porter, of Silex and John Porter, of Boulder, Col. He had twenty one grandchildren and sixteen great grandchildren. He learned the blacksmith trade when a young man and followed that business until about 1858, when a protracted spell of fever left him unable to work longer. Since that time he has been relieved from the cares of an active business life, and his passing years were spent at his ease and in peace with the world During the Civil War he was on the side of the Union because he thought it the side of right. he was not a soldier, being unable for duty. He was a republican in politics and a close reader, up to four months ago, of the papers, keeping in touch with all the doings of foreign countries as well as our own. Mr. Porter was a constant reader and there were few better historians, ancient and modern: he was a well posted Bible student and had in his mind a vivid political history of the world and especially of his own country-85 years of it by personal experience. He united with the Christian church when a young man, in the days of Alexander Campbell, whom he had heard preach on more than one occasion and remained strong in the faith to the end. He was an active church man throughout his active life: an elder for years, a leader of song service, was fond of reading the Scriptures and the Book of Job, particularly. Only a few days before he died he talked to the writer on the great question that Job asked, :If a man die, shall he live again. On the evening of the day before he died he said to his two sons who were by his side, "I am not going to die tonight," and the next morning told them "I will not live through the day," and he died at 1:30 p.m. **** From: BUCKYBARB To: TEbel2888 Edwin Porter, Thomas bondsman 9-25-1797 Polly Mauzy bondsman John Mauzy. Thomas he and Sarah Porter 1761 sell Wm Hunton 120 acres. Sons Wm, Thomas and Edwin. Samuel and Martin Porter. *Married children Hannah Jackman, *Sarah Scott, John deceased, Wm, Thomas, Charles and Edwin. not married Betty. William Porter (looks like Thomas son) married 1/27/1779 to Sarah Porter dau of Samuel. Thought this might clear up any confusion. Barb I read those children as the children of Thomas. This book with the abbreviations is very hard to interput. I am going to type the whole thing, you can interpret. Porter, Thomas. 59M, 78 BI, 81BC-99E.D 1-188, 1761. He and Sarah Porter sell William Hunton 120 a. at mouth of 120N fork of Cedar Run. D 2-401 & 405, 1765. Execs of Armistead Churchill sell 1.him 250a. and 2 Samuel Porter 262 a. part of Pageland. RR1770 250 a. W 3-184, 1799, pr M 14,634, June 1799 by Wiley Roy; sons William, Thomas, and Edwin execs with sec Samuel and Martin Porter. Married children: Hannah Jackman, Sarah Scott, Jon dec'd, William, Thomas, Charles, and Edwin; not married: Betty, Eli. M 14, 853, 1799. Eppa & Elizabeeth Porter ag his execs; *Thomas & Hannah Jackman;* John & Sarah Scott; Charles and Eli Porter; and heirs of John Porter by gdns Jane Porter and William Pepper. D14-351,1799. Voted *One of Thomas' brothers was Samuel. The two of them bought land together in Fauquier in 1765*. Prior to that *Thomas had sold some land in 1761*. Thomas was present on the surviving 1759 tax list of Thomas Marshall which indicates he was living around the Licking Run area in Fauquier. He was the only Porter on that particular list (relatively small area) and no tithables listed with him. In all likelihood, he was married by that time. *Tighlman WEAVER, father of Sarah WEAVER-PORTER d bef 3/27/1760 when his will was probated in Germantown, Fauquier Co., VA. Sarah, His daughter was not in his will yet she had land to sell. It is clear that she probably received her share upon marriage prior to her father's death.* rations: Will Book #1 * It appears that the comments in Parenthesis were added by an unknown researcer for clarification.* 1759-1783 Fauquier, Virginia Page 13 WEAVER, Tillman *14 December , 1759. 27 March, 1760* (Very Sick) Wife, Elizabeth Weaver, to have use of plantation, being land I bought of Martin Hardin and taken up by John Hardin. After decease of wife, land to go to son, Tillman Weaver. Slaves to be divided between sons Tillman, John, and Daughter Susannah Weaver. Wife to have livestock. Daughters Ann Kemper (Husband John) and Mary Hitt (Husband Harman) to have land in Culpepper County and Slaves. Eve Porter (Husband Samuel) to have land I bought of Charles Taylor. Daughter Elizabeth Weaver, to have 150 acres of land and slaves. Daughter Catherine Weaver, to have 150 acres of land and slaves. Son John Weaver, to have 150 acres and slaves. Son Jacob Weaver, to have 200 acres and slaves. *(Daughter Sarah "Sallie", who was still living when the will was written, was not named in the will, probably because she had already received her inheritance.)* Exrs: Wife, son Jacob, Samuel Porter (son-in-law). Wit: William Norman, Tillman Martin, Thomas Marshall. *The daughters were given 150 acres. Sarah Weaver and husband, Thomas Porter were in possession of 120 acres which they sold in 1761--after the death of Sarah's father.* *Thomas then bought other property in 1765. Thomas would not inherited land from his own father who did not to anyone's knowledge come to America. The land sold would probably* *have been Sarah's wedding gift.* On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 8:22 AM wrote: > I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah > Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah is > mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in > Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer County, > KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists his > children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when > the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift > from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot find > the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date that > marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL > > > > > > Links: ------ [1] /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy |
To Charlene & Pat,That deed does not mention Hannah, but she was on
the sale of property in 1790 or so. That means she had to be on a deed earlier, I think.Judy Arthur -----------------------------------------From: "Charlene Ebeling" To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 11:41:43AM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage I wonder if that 150 acres was given to Sarah WEAVER by her father upon her marriage the Thomas Porter, as her sisters each received 150 acres in Tighlman Weaver’s will. PS Pat DUNCAN, I am a DUNCAN Desc. Of Fauquier—Joseph bc 1712 and Lydia On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM PAT DUNCAN wrote: > Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 by Alcott shows a Thomas Jackman, Deed Book > 6-356 & 358, 1777. Divides 1740 grant between sons Thomas Jr and William. > Wit: Joseph Jackman. > > > ,123546,124277,127026,124456,124457&endDate=1776&startDate=1776&rmsId=TH-909-60887-243148-65&imageIndex=461&singleView=true /> > > Fauquier Co Deed Book 6, page 356 shows Thomas Sr gave Thomas Jr 150 acres. > > Pat Duncan > > > From: jkarthur@... > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 6:19 AM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah > Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah is > mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in > Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer County, > KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists his > children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when > the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift > from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot find > the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date that > marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL > > > > > > > > Links: ------ [1] /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy |
Charlene and Pat, both of you know more about Virginia Rules, Laws and Customs than I.? Would you please give me a little explanation about when a wife had to "Consent" to the sale of a homestead or property?
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Thanks.. Shirley Starks On 4/19/2021 2:05 PM, jkarthur@... wrote:
To Charlene & Pat,That deed does not mention Hannah, but she was on |
There may not be a deed with her name other than the sale. Women normally did not own property. Unless specifically stated, the land would have gone to her husband. She had to sign when they sold the land to prove she was agreeing to the sale and giving up her rights to it under any dower provision.
A Thomas Jackman appears beginning in 1783 on the Fauquier Co Land Taxes with 150 acres. He still appears on the 1789 lists, but not the 1790 lists. The 1790 deed selling the land to Samuel Porter states: 150 acres - lying in leeds parish beginning at a tall hiccory on Carters run and near the mouth of a branch of the said patented tract thence with the said lies thereof S50E152 poles to a large pine on a hill side and near a steep valey thence S40W along the out lines to crooked tree branch, thence down the said branch and through the said four hundred and nineteen acre tract to the said run thence along the said run up to the meanders The deed I mentioned before of 1777 states: 150 acres (being part of a larger tract granted to said Thomas Jackman Senr for four hundred and nineteen acres) bounded beginning at a tall hiccory on Carters Run, and near the mouth of a branch corner to the said Patented tract, thence with the outlines thereof S50 E152 poles, to a large pine on a hill side and near a steep valley thence S40W along the out line to Crooked tree branch thence down the said branch and through the said 419 acre tract to the said run thence along the said run up the meanders… Those sound like the same piece of land, meaning Thomas Jr received the land from his father Thomas Sr. Pat Duncan (no relation to any Duncans in Fauquier Co) From: jkarthur@...<mailto:jkarthur@...> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 11:58 AM To: '[email protected]'<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Hi Charlene,I don't think either one of us have a record of the deed for the land that I think Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver gave to Thomas Jackman/Hannah Porter. That is what I am trying to find, but it is not in the records I have searched in Family Search. I did find when Thomas/Hannah sold it. She was listed in that deed transfer. That means there is another deed that has her name on it---somewhere in Fauquier County.Judy -----------------------------------------From: "Charlene Ebeling" To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 10:06:36AM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage *I have been in Florida since November and do not have my genealogy books, but I do have notes on my computer. I have been working on several unrelated lines, so* *I am not sure what I have already sent. I am reviewing my notes to determine what entries may give you direction, so bear with me if you already have some of this.* *My own comments in blue. I tried to concentrate upon the land. I hope something yields a clue.* *Charlene* * *IN MY NOTES FROM ANOTHER RESEARCHER WHO COULD NOT REMEMBER THE SOURCE BOOK* pages 461-467.*22-23 June 1766.*lease&release.between William Hunton and Judith,his wife,and Richard Chichester, of Lan.Co.,Gent....whereon Wm. Hunton lately lived.....328 a....*128 a. purch.of Thomas Porter and Sarah,his wife...* 25&26 march 1761 and *100 a.purch.of Samuel porter and Eve,his wife...* *26 march 1761* and 100 a. purch. of Joseph Hitt and Mary his wife,*Harman Kamper(Kemper) & Catherine,his wife(Catherine /Katherine Cuntze-Kemperwas the sister of Ann Elizabeth Cuntze-Weaver) * and *Ann Elizabeth Weaver...*.*(Widow of Tighlman and mother of Sarah WEAVER-PORTER)* 27-28 may 1762...#310 siged: Wm. Hunton, Judith Hunton.rec 23 June 1766, ack.by grantors. now on page 20 of this book:pages 323-328,27 may 1762.lease. Joseph Hitt & Mary his wife Harman Kamper& Catherine,his wife and Ann Elizabeth Weaver to William Hunton...100 a..bounded by lands of Armistead Churchhill,esq.,William Russell and lands of the said* William Hunton,which he purchased of Thomas and Samuel Porter and is the land which descended to the said Mary,Catherine,and Ann Elizabeth sisters and coheiresses of Tilman Weaver,dec,d...for one year.*..signed:all grantors.rec:*28 may 1762,ack. by granors Hunton had already bought Eva,s and Sarah's,shares** ,not long after Tilman,s death*, it's been a while sense I've look at this,I had forgotten that only one of the girls was not married. I'm not along on this conclusion, there are other genealogist that see the same thing, Sarah and Eva would *hare* not have had any part in this transaction unless they were daughters also. ** James Hughes 2006-06-09 16:58:16 Fauquier County, Virginia. Deed Bk. 7 /> *p. 75 April 26, 1779 * Between FRANCIS WHITING of Fauquier Co. and (to) HUMPHREY BROOKE AND Anne HIS WIFE in consideration of natural love and affection Francis Whiting has for Humphrey Brooke and Anne his wife.. bounded ... lands of RICHARD CHICHESTER,* SAMUEL PORTER, THOMAS PORTER, *GEORGE BOSWELL, line of COL. HENRY FITZHUGH* between the Branch and TURKEY RUN* to them during their natural lives ...* proved at court April 1779 * ** Descendants of Tillman Weaver, Weber 1 Tillman Weaver, Weber 1701 - 1760 b: 1701 in Eisern, Eiserfeld, Nassau Siegen, Germany d: Bef. 03/27/1760 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. .. +Anna Elisabeth(Annalis) Cuntze, Kuntze 1708 - 1780 b: 12/23/1708 in Oberfishbach, Germany d: Abt. 1780 in Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Ann Weaver 1725 - 1797 b: 1725 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1797 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +John George Kemper 1722 - 1799 b: 05/17/1722 in Germantown, Culpeper Co., Va. d: Bef. 02/1799 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ..... 2 Mary Ann Weaver 1726 - 1793 b: 1726 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 1793 in Warrenton, Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +Harmon Hitt 1721 - 1820 b: 1721 in Germantown, Stafford Co., Virginia d: 1820 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ..... 2 Evelyn "Eva" Weaver 1730 - 1785 b: 1730 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: Abt. 1785 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ........ +Samuel Porter 1731 - 1807 b: Abt. 1731 in Warrington, Lancashire, England d: 10/21/1807 in Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Jacob Weaver 1735 - 1779 b: 1735 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 09/02/1779 in Johnstown, Tryon, New York ..... 2 Sarah "Sallie" Weaver 1728 - 1789 b: Bet. 1728 - 1737 d: 1789 in Fauquier Co., Virginia ......... +Thomas Porter, Capt. AmRev 1734 - 1799 b: Bef. 03/22/1734 in St. Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England d: 05/1799 in Hamilton Parish, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Elizabeth Weaver 1736 - b: Abt. 1736 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Catherine Weaver 1738 - b: Abt. 1738 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ..... 2 Susannah Weaver 1744 - b: Abt. 1744 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. .... 2 [1] Tillman Weaver, Jr. 1744 - b: Abt. 1744 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. ......... +Susan Darnell 1767 - b: Bef. 1767 ..... *2nd Wife of [1] Tillman Weaver, Jr.: ......... +Elizabeth Harrison ..... 2 John Weaver 1745 - 1818 b: 03/04/1745 in Germantown, Fauquier Co., Va. d: 06/29/1818 ......... +Ann Darnall 1747 - 1795 b: 12/31/1747 d: Aft. 1795 *** Posted by: Meredith DeBuse (ID 4006) Date: July 05, 2007 at 18:51:27 In Reply to: Re: Porters in Fauquier Co. VA by Jim Ball of 8996 I can tell you abt one of the Porter families in Fauquier Co, VA. Samuel Porter who married Eve Weaver, was an immigrant to VA ca. 1740's. Sources say he came from Warrington, Lancashire England, with a bro Thomas. Thomas's christening record appeared in the Warrington Parish records, s/o Thomas Porter and Anne. No record of Samuel's birth has been found in Eng. or VA. Samuel was born abt 1732. He served in the Revolution and was taken prisoner in Quebec. He had a son Samuel who married Mary Withers. Their son, also Samuel, b 1799 m. Mary Grayson. His family migrated out of VA, to Todd Co, KY, Montgomery Co, IL, Linn co MO. Samuel's (3) sons William, John and Macauley, immigrated to the Oregon Territory from MO, in 1848. Abt 1862, their father Samuel and family followed his sons to Oregon with the remainder of the son's siblings. Samuel settled west of Roseburg, Douglas, Oregon, and died there abt 1875. His three oldest sons settled in Benton Co, OR. Who said the old timers didn't move around!! *My 2nd Great Grandfather William Jordan PORTER 5/2/1809--2/23/1905 Silex, Lincoln Co., Missouri* ALMOST A CENTURY William Porter, Probably the Oldest citizen of the County, Peacefully Passes Away. When a man as old in years, as ripe in experience and as rich in faith as was Mr. Porter is taken from us, we feel that the fact is deserving of more than passing newspaper notice, hence present below a few of the principal events in the life of this venerable citizen. William Porter was born at Crab Orchard, Ky., May 2 1809, and was married to Sarah Ann Richardson in Hart Co. Ky, Feb. 23 1833. He died at the home of his son in Silex, Mo., Feb. 23, 1905, aged 95 years, 9 months and 21 days. He was confined to his bed only about one week being able to wait upon himself up to that time, even making his own stove fires into January last. No disease was upon him-just a giving way-a wearing out of the whole human system: no pain attended his going. He slept from life to death, from mortality to immortality. His remains were laid away in the New Liberty cemetery beside his beloved wife, who died July 1, 1897. They spent sixty-four years of married life together and he died on the anniversary of his wedding day. Funeral services were conducted at Liberty church by Rev. J.M. Hughes, of the M.E. church, South, after which his body was tenderly laid away.He was of English and French descent, his mother being French. His grandfather came from England and settled in Fauquier co. Va., at an early day, and his sons removed to Kentucky in the early settling of that country. There the subject of this sketch was born, grew into manhood, married and lived until he was 56 years old or until 1865. In October of that year he moved to Lincoln Co. Mo. with all of his family except one son and there he lived his days and was "gathered to his fathers." *His grandfather had been in Virginia long enough that he had three sons at Yorktown when Cornwallis surrendered*.* (Thomas PORTER 1734-1799)* His father was born in 1778 and died in 1841, moved to Kentucky in 1808 and settled in Lincoln Co. Ky. He was often heard to say that deer were plentiful when he was a young man. He was the father of eleven children, nine sons and two daughters. Two of these children died in their childhood and the blue grass sod of Kentucky covers the little mounds where they were laid away. His oldest son Elias never moved to Missouri, but remained in Russelville, Ky., though he died in Lincoln co. Mo. while visiting his parents here, on 20 Oct. 1872. His youngest daughter, Sallie Porter Reeds, wife of H.F. Reeds,*(My Grt Grandparents)* recently of Troy, Mo. died November 25, 1875 in Lincoln co. Mo. His children that survive him are Norman Porter, of Silex; Henry and W.J. Porter of Corso; Mrs. I.J. Ingram of Ashley; C.E. Porter, of Bowling Green; L. B. Porter, of Silex and John Porter, of Boulder, Col. He had twenty one grandchildren and sixteen great grandchildren. He learned the blacksmith trade when a young man and followed that business until about 1858, when a protracted spell of fever left him unable to work longer. Since that time he has been relieved from the cares of an active business life, and his passing years were spent at his ease and in peace with the world During the Civil War he was on the side of the Union because he thought it the side of right. he was not a soldier, being unable for duty. He was a republican in politics and a close reader, up to four months ago, of the papers, keeping in touch with all the doings of foreign countries as well as our own. Mr. Porter was a constant reader and there were few better historians, ancient and modern: he was a well posted Bible student and had in his mind a vivid political history of the world and especially of his own country-85 years of it by personal experience. He united with the Christian church when a young man, in the days of Alexander Campbell, whom he had heard preach on more than one occasion and remained strong in the faith to the end. He was an active church man throughout his active life: an elder for years, a leader of song service, was fond of reading the Scriptures and the Book of Job, particularly. Only a few days before he died he talked to the writer on the great question that Job asked, :If a man die, shall he live again. On the evening of the day before he died he said to his two sons who were by his side, "I am not going to die tonight," and the next morning told them "I will not live through the day," and he died at 1:30 p.m. **** From: BUCKYBARB To: TEbel2888 Edwin Porter, Thomas bondsman 9-25-1797 Polly Mauzy bondsman John Mauzy. Thomas he and Sarah Porter 1761 sell Wm Hunton 120 acres. Sons Wm, Thomas and Edwin. Samuel and Martin Porter. *Married children Hannah Jackman, *Sarah Scott, John deceased, Wm, Thomas, Charles and Edwin. not married Betty. William Porter (looks like Thomas son) married 1/27/1779 to Sarah Porter dau of Samuel. Thought this might clear up any confusion. Barb I read those children as the children of Thomas. This book with the abbreviations is very hard to interput. I am going to type the whole thing, you can interpret. Porter, Thomas. 59M, 78 BI, 81BC-99E.D 1-188, 1761. He and Sarah Porter sell William Hunton 120 a. at mouth of 120N fork of Cedar Run. D 2-401 & 405, 1765. Execs of Armistead Churchill sell 1.him 250a. and 2 Samuel Porter 262 a. part of Pageland. RR1770 250 a. W 3-184, 1799, pr M 14,634, June 1799 by Wiley Roy; sons William, Thomas, and Edwin execs with sec Samuel and Martin Porter. Married children: Hannah Jackman, Sarah Scott, Jon dec'd, William, Thomas, Charles, and Edwin; not married: Betty, Eli. M 14, 853, 1799. Eppa & Elizabeeth Porter ag his execs; *Thomas & Hannah Jackman;* John & Sarah Scott; Charles and Eli Porter; and heirs of John Porter by gdns Jane Porter and William Pepper. D14-351,1799. Voted *One of Thomas' brothers was Samuel. The two of them bought land together in Fauquier in 1765*. Prior to that *Thomas had sold some land in 1761*. Thomas was present on the surviving 1759 tax list of Thomas Marshall which indicates he was living around the Licking Run area in Fauquier. He was the only Porter on that particular list (relatively small area) and no tithables listed with him. In all likelihood, he was married by that time. *Tighlman WEAVER, father of Sarah WEAVER-PORTER d bef 3/27/1760 when his will was probated in Germantown, Fauquier Co., VA. Sarah, His daughter was not in his will yet she had land to sell. It is clear that she probably received her share upon marriage prior to her father's death.* rations: Will Book #1 * It appears that the comments in Parenthesis were added by an unknown researcer for clarification.* 1759-1783 Fauquier, Virginia Page 13 WEAVER, Tillman *14 December , 1759. 27 March, 1760* (Very Sick) Wife, Elizabeth Weaver, to have use of plantation, being land I bought of Martin Hardin and taken up by John Hardin. After decease of wife, land to go to son, Tillman Weaver. Slaves to be divided between sons Tillman, John, and Daughter Susannah Weaver. Wife to have livestock. Daughters Ann Kemper (Husband John) and Mary Hitt (Husband Harman) to have land in Culpepper County and Slaves. Eve Porter (Husband Samuel) to have land I bought of Charles Taylor. Daughter Elizabeth Weaver, to have 150 acres of land and slaves. Daughter Catherine Weaver, to have 150 acres of land and slaves. Son John Weaver, to have 150 acres and slaves. Son Jacob Weaver, to have 200 acres and slaves. *(Daughter Sarah "Sallie", who was still living when the will was written, was not named in the will, probably because she had already received her inheritance.)* Exrs: Wife, son Jacob, Samuel Porter (son-in-law). Wit: William Norman, Tillman Martin, Thomas Marshall. *The daughters were given 150 acres. Sarah Weaver and husband, Thomas Porter were in possession of 120 acres which they sold in 1761--after the death of Sarah's father.* *Thomas then bought other property in 1765. Thomas would not inherited land from his own father who did not to anyone's knowledge come to America. The land sold would probably* *have been Sarah's wedding gift.* On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 8:22 AM wrote: > I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah > Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah is > mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in > Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer County, > KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists his > children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when > the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift > from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot find > the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date that > marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL > |
Relinquishment of Dower: When the husband sold land, it was the normal practice for the wife to relinquish her dower interest so that title would pass free of her potential future claim. If she failed to do so and eventually outlived her husband, she could claim her one-third from whoever owned the land at the time.
The wife’s name did not have to appear on the original deed but she did have to give up the above rights. Pat From: Shirley Starks<mailto:sstarks@...> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:15 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Charlene and Pat, both of you know more about Virginia Rules, Laws and Customs than I. Would you please give me a little explanation about when a wife had to "Consent" to the sale of a homestead or property? Thanks.. Shirley Starks On 4/19/2021 2:05 PM, jkarthur@... wrote: To Charlene & Pat,That deed does not mention Hannah, but she was on |
?Just a note in case some do no know it. Evidently, If property was owned by the husband prior to the marriage, he could dispose of the property without her signing off her dower rights. (Same way as today I guess in regard to community property)
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Also, any time there is a deed of anything involved I always check for ‘gifts of deed’ to help determine if there was a prior marriage and children of that marriage who were deeded property. And then, not named in the will, later. Happened a lot in my family. Oh, and btw there is an Ashby io group for those of you, interested. [email protected] On Apr 19, 2021, at 1:29 PM, PAT DUNCAN <GenNutLdn@...> wrote: |
Do you have a source for stating the wife only had dower rights to land purchased during the marriage?
“Women’s rights to real property—the lands and buildings that constituted most wealth in the early national period—were more extensive than their rights to personalty. A husband could not sell or mortgage the realty his wife brought to their marriage without her consent. He could use it, but he could not convey it because a woman’s real estate, generally inherited from her father, was meant to stay in the family and descend through her to her children. A wife also had important rights to the real property that her husband brought to the marriage or purchased afterwards. He could not sell or mortgage it unless she signed a statement signifying her free consent, which was recorded with the deed.” From: Sue Ashby<mailto:sueashby@...> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 1:45 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage ?Just a note in case some do no know it. Evidently, If property was owned by the husband prior to the marriage, he could dispose of the property without her signing off her dower rights. (Same way as today I guess in regard to community property) Also, any time there is a deed of anything involved I always check for ‘gifts of deed’ to help determine if there was a prior marriage and children of that marriage who were deeded property. And then, not named in the will, later. Happened a lot in my family. Oh, and btw there is an Ashby io group for those of you, interested. [email protected] On Apr 19, 2021, at 1:29 PM, PAT DUNCAN <GenNutLdn@...> wrote: |
No I do not.
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Do you have a source for stating the wife only had dower rights to land |
Hi Pat,If that is the case and the land is the same land Thomas Sr.
gave to Thomas Jr, then it is not land given by Thomas Porter. I was hoping that I could prove the date of the marriage of Hannah Porter/Thomas Jackman by a gift from her father. Now, I feel sure that there was no such gift. I don't think I can ever prove this marriage date. I really appreciate your help!Judy Arthur -----------------------------------------From: "PAT DUNCAN" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 1:29:33PM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Relinquishment of Dower: When the husband sold land, it was the normal practice for the wife to relinquish her dower interest so that title would pass free of her potential future claim. If she failed to do so and eventually outlived her husband, she could claim her one-third from whoever owned the land at the time. The wife’s name did not have to appear on the original deed but she did have to give up the above rights. Pat From: Shirley Starks Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Charlene and Pat, both of you know more about Virginia Rules, Laws and Customs than I. Would you please give me a little explanation about when a wife had to "Consent" to the sale of a homestead or property? Thanks.. Shirley Starks On 4/19/2021 2:05 PM, jkarthur@... wrote: > To Charlene & Pat,That deed does not mention Hannah, but she was on > the sale of property in 1790 or so. That means she had to be on a deed > earlier, I think.Judy Arthur > > -----------------------------------------From: "Charlene Ebeling" > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Monday April 19 2021 11:41:43AM > Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > I wonder if that 150 acres was given to Sarah WEAVER by her father > upon her > marriage the Thomas Porter, as her sisters each received 150 acres in > Tighlman Weaver’s will. > > PS Pat DUNCAN, I am a DUNCAN Desc. Of Fauquier—Joseph bc 1712 and > Lydia > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM PAT DUNCAN wrote: > > > Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 by Alcott shows a Thomas Jackman, Deed > Book > > 6-356 & 358, 1777. Divides 1740 grant between sons Thomas Jr and > William. > > Wit: Joseph Jackman. > > > > > > > ,123546,124277,127026,124456,124457&endDate=1776&startDate=1776&rmsId=TH-909-60887-243148-65&imageIndex=461&singleView=true /> > /> > > > Fauquier Co Deed Book 6, page 356 shows Thomas Sr gave Thomas Jr > 150 acres. > > > > Pat Duncan > > > > > > From: jkarthur@... > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 6:19 AM > > To: '[email protected]' > > Subject: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > > > I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah > > Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah > is > > mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in > > Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer > County, > > KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists > his > > children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when > > the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift > > from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot > find > > the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date > that > > marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy /> > > > > > > Links: ------ [1] /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy |
There is always hope. There is an outside chance that Hannah could be mentioned as a witness on a document pertaining to other parties. It would not indicate the marriage date, but at least give a “married before” timeframe. It does not appear that she is mentioned in the Fauquier Minute/Order Books others than in that deed.
Don’t give up. Pat From: jkarthur@...<mailto:jkarthur@...> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 2:22 PM To: '[email protected]'<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Hi Pat,If that is the case and the land is the same land Thomas Sr. gave to Thomas Jr, then it is not land given by Thomas Porter. I was hoping that I could prove the date of the marriage of Hannah Porter/Thomas Jackman by a gift from her father. Now, I feel sure that there was no such gift. I don't think I can ever prove this marriage date. I really appreciate your help!Judy Arthur -----------------------------------------From: "PAT DUNCAN" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 1:29:33PM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Relinquishment of Dower: When the husband sold land, it was the normal practice for the wife to relinquish her dower interest so that title would pass free of her potential future claim. If she failed to do so and eventually outlived her husband, she could claim her one-third from whoever owned the land at the time. The wife’s name did not have to appear on the original deed but she did have to give up the above rights. Pat From: Shirley Starks Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Charlene and Pat, both of you know more about Virginia Rules, Laws and Customs than I. Would you please give me a little explanation about when a wife had to "Consent" to the sale of a homestead or property? Thanks.. Shirley Starks On 4/19/2021 2:05 PM, jkarthur@... wrote: > To Charlene & Pat,That deed does not mention Hannah, but she was on > the sale of property in 1790 or so. That means she had to be on a deed > earlier, I think.Judy Arthur > > -----------------------------------------From: "Charlene Ebeling" > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Monday April 19 2021 11:41:43AM > Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > I wonder if that 150 acres was given to Sarah WEAVER by her father > upon her > marriage the Thomas Porter, as her sisters each received 150 acres in > Tighlman Weaver’s will. > > PS Pat DUNCAN, I am a DUNCAN Desc. Of Fauquier—Joseph bc 1712 and > Lydia > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM PAT DUNCAN wrote: > > > Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 by Alcott shows a Thomas Jackman, Deed > Book > > 6-356 & 358, 1777. Divides 1740 grant between sons Thomas Jr and > William. > > Wit: Joseph Jackman. > > > > > > > ,123546,124277,127026,124456,124457&endDate=1776&startDate=1776&rmsId=TH-909-60887-243148-65&imageIndex=461&singleView=true /> > /> > > > Fauquier Co Deed Book 6, page 356 shows Thomas Sr gave Thomas Jr > 150 acres. > > > > Pat Duncan > > > > > > From: jkarthur@... > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 6:19 AM > > To: '[email protected]' > > Subject: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > > > I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah > > Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah > is > > mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in > > Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer > County, > > KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists > his > > children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when > > the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift > > from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot > find > > the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date > that > > marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy /> > > > > > > Links: ------ [1] /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy |
Thank you, Pat, for the encouragement. I have looked at everything
that is listed in the catalog area of family search. I have also looked at Prince William County and Culpeper. No marriage record. I am sure Hannah is the mother of Thomas Jackman's children, but DAR isn't so sure By the way, you helped me prove William Beavers with a great court case in Loudoun County. I never would have found that without your helpJudy Arthur -----------------------------------------From: "PAT DUNCAN" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 3:27:48PM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage There is always hope. There is an outside chance that Hannah could be mentioned as a witness on a document pertaining to other parties. It would not indicate the marriage date, but at least give a “married before” timeframe. It does not appear that she is mentioned in the Fauquier Minute/Order Books others than in that deed. Don’t give up. Pat From: jkarthur@... Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 2:22 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Hi Pat,If that is the case and the land is the same land Thomas Sr. gave to Thomas Jr, then it is not land given by Thomas Porter. I was hoping that I could prove the date of the marriage of Hannah Porter/Thomas Jackman by a gift from her father. Now, I feel sure that there was no such gift I don't think I can ever prove this marriage date. I really appreciate your help!Judy Arthur -----------------------------------------From: "PAT DUNCAN" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 1:29:33PM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Relinquishment of Dower: When the husband sold land, it was the normal practice for the wife to relinquish her dower interest so that title would pass free of her potential future claim. If she failed to do so and eventually outlived her husband, she could claim her one-third from whoever owned the land at the time. The wife’s name did not have to appear on the original deed but she did have to give up the above rights. Pat From: Shirley Starks Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 12:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Charlene and Pat, both of you know more about Virginia Rules, Laws and Customs than I. Would you please give me a little explanation about when a wife had to "Consent" to the sale of a homestead or property? Thanks. Shirley Starks On 4/19/2021 2:05 PM, jkarthur@... wrote: > To Charlene & Pat,That deed does not mention Hannah, but she was on > the sale of property in 1790 or so. That means she had to be on a deed > earlier, I think.Judy Arthur > > -----------------------------------------From: "Charlene Ebeling" > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Monday April 19 2021 11:41:43AM > Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > I wonder if that 150 acres was given to Sarah WEAVER by her father > upon her > marriage the Thomas Porter, as her sisters each received 150 acres in > Tighlman Weaver’s will. > > PS Pat DUNCAN, I am a DUNCAN Desc. Of Fauquier—Joseph bc 1712 and > Lydia > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM PAT DUNCAN wrote: > > > Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 by Alcott shows a Thomas Jackman, Deed > Book > > 6-356 & 358, 1777. Divides 1740 grant between sons Thomas Jr and > William. > > Wit: Joseph Jackman. > > > > > > > ,123546,124277,127026,124456,124457&endDate=1776&startDate=1776&rmsId=TH-909-60887-243148-65&imageIndex=461&singleView=true /> /> > /> > > > Fauquier Co Deed Book 6, page 356 shows Thomas Sr gave Thomas Jr > 150 acres. > > > > Pat Duncan > > > > > > From: jkarthur@... > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 6:19 AM > > To: '[email protected]' > > Subject: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage > > > > I cannot prove the date of the marriage of Thomas Jackman to Hannah > > Porter. It probably occurred after 1758 in Fauquier Co, VA. Hannah > is > > mentioned in Thomas Jackman's will. They sold land together in > > Fauquier Co, VA about 1790 or later before moving on to Mercer > County, > > KY. Thomas Jackman's will is filed in Mercer County, KY and lists > his > > children.I can find a copy of the land sale, but I do not know when > > the couple acquired the land that they sold. I think it was a gift > > from Thomas Porter/Sarah Weaver, Hannah's parents, but I cannot > find > > the record. If I could find that record, it would probably date > that > > marriage.I would appreciate any help.Judith K. ArthurAlabaster, AL > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy /> /> > > > > > > Links: ------ [1] /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy /> Links: ------ [1] /g/VA-FAUQUIER/leave/7682985/4163933/1940919261/xyzzy |
One problem you face is that many early marriages were not recorded at the court. You obviously done your research, but haven’t been lucky. You might try looking at other family members of Thomas and Hannah to see if any of their documents mention them. A long shot, but you have nothing to lose except your hair as you pull it out from frustration.
Good luck. Pat From: jkarthur@...<mailto:jkarthur@...> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 2:36 PM To: '[email protected]'<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage Thank you, Pat, for the encouragement. I have looked at everything that is listed in the catalog area of family search. I have also looked at Prince William County and Culpeper. No marriage record. I am sure Hannah is the mother of Thomas Jackman's children, but DAR isn't so sure By the way, you helped me prove William Beavers with a great court case in Loudoun County. I never would have found that without your helpJudy Arthur -----------------------------------------From: "PAT DUNCAN" To: "[email protected]" Cc: Sent: Monday April 19 2021 3:27:48PM Subject: Re: [VA-FAUQUIER] Jackman/Porter Marriage There is always hope. There is an outside chance that Hannah could be mentioned as a witness on a document pertaining to other parties. It would not indicate the marriage date, but at least give a “married before” timeframe. It does not appear that she is mentioned in the Fauquier Minute/Order Books others than in that deed. Don’t give up. Pat |
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