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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
This is what the original Rosemary looks like. ?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Malakov (gmail) <andy.malakov@...> To: [email protected]; quinngolden@... Sent: Tue, Mar 7, 2023 2:48 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered There is still Verde Green Rustoleum available in some stores that is close to the color of early DB200.?
On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 9:25?AM <quinngolden@...> wrote:
Thank you for that, I can get that green locally as well as the stone finish locally. But that green is just not the right shade of green. But that may be what I¡¯m stuck with. So thank you.? |
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Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !
Very nice work Phil. Perhaps when someone sells me a unimat at a reasonable price I may be able to emulate your fine example.
On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 18:50:37 GMT, clankennedy2004 via groups.io <clankennedy2004@...> wrote:
Charles / chuck, any idea what happened to Unimat ? bought out by Emco I guess and then ?
On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 18:46:58 GMT, Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
I think it has already been mentioned that there may not really be a "best" as it depends on what you want to do.? Also, what if you only want to "collect" one more than using it?? Then which might be "best."? Oldest?? Newest? One good place to start is to learn what you can about the various models.? The "lathes.uk" site has enough information to make your eyes bleed on a great many lathes (and I'm not sure if there is a better source in one place). For the original Unimats (earliest and the more common SL1000/DB200 and even copies), they have a "Unimat" section.: To cast a wider net including the Unimat 3 and 4 and many more you go to the "Emco Unimat" section. There is a lot to learn if you want to take a really deep dive.? For example, just how many configurations does it have?? Their own marketing changed this number quite a bit over the years.? The following info is from perusing Model Railroader magazine advertisements.starting with the very first. Oct 1954 "8 Precision tools in 1"? Lathe, Table Saw, Drill Press, Surface Grinder, Mill, Sander, Screw Cutter, Portable Hand Drill Aug 1956? "10 in 1"? Lathe, Drill Press, Hand Drill, Polishing or Grinding, Tool Grinding, Milling, Jig Saw, Threading, Circular Saw, Indexing and Dividing March 1957 They separated what the "basic" machine could do and what required attachments.? Still 10, but 6 + 4. ? ?Basic machine:? Lathe, Drill Press, Hand Drill, Polishing and Grinding, Tool Grinding, Milling ? ?With attachments:? Jig Saw, Threading, Circular Saw, Indexing and Dividing Nov 1965? The ad focused only on the basic machine as "6 machines", Lathe, Surface Grinder, Portable Drill, Tilting Head Drill Press, Polisher/Grinder, Vertical Miller Nov 1967? "5 in 1 Precision Machine"? (they dropped the "portable hand drill" configuration)? "5 in 1" continued to the end of the original Unimat advertising. Oct 1978 has the first Emco-Lux Corporation ad for the Unimat 3.? It also says, "Special note to owners of the Unimat SL series who have been looking for accessories.? Emco-Lux has and will continue to have a complete line of all Unimat parts and accessories, manufactured by Maier and Company, builders of the Unimat line since the early 1950's."? There is also an ad by Caboose Hobbies that calls the Unimat 3 the "improved version of the most versatile modeling tool ever produced."? I suppose that would suggest that the SL1000/DB200 could logically no longer be "the best" at that point? Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 08:31:58 AM PST, phill005 via groups.io <phill05@...> wrote:
It all depends what you want to do with it, for me it is the SL, a small footprint capable of doing most work on small clocks. But I needed to change a few things to make it better for me, I did not want a cnc but I wanted to get power movement to both axis which I have now done I replaced the bed ways fitted a small stepper motor to each and can now get movement at the press of a button. I later want to add indexing to the head and gear cutter on the cross slide. I have retained all old parts to revert it back to a SL lathe again if needs be. Here it is so far: Phill Before cast iron lathe in need of a little care. Work in progress. Index controller I built for a dividing head.?? |
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Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !
Charles / chuck, any idea what happened to Unimat ? bought out by Emco I guess and then ?
On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 18:46:58 GMT, Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
I think it has already been mentioned that there may not really be a "best" as it depends on what you want to do.? Also, what if you only want to "collect" one more than using it?? Then which might be "best."? Oldest?? Newest? One good place to start is to learn what you can about the various models.? The "lathes.uk" site has enough information to make your eyes bleed on a great many lathes (and I'm not sure if there is a better source in one place). For the original Unimats (earliest and the more common SL1000/DB200 and even copies), they have a "Unimat" section.: To cast a wider net including the Unimat 3 and 4 and many more you go to the "Emco Unimat" section. There is a lot to learn if you want to take a really deep dive.? For example, just how many configurations does it have?? Their own marketing changed this number quite a bit over the years.? The following info is from perusing Model Railroader magazine advertisements.starting with the very first. Oct 1954 "8 Precision tools in 1"? Lathe, Table Saw, Drill Press, Surface Grinder, Mill, Sander, Screw Cutter, Portable Hand Drill Aug 1956? "10 in 1"? Lathe, Drill Press, Hand Drill, Polishing or Grinding, Tool Grinding, Milling, Jig Saw, Threading, Circular Saw, Indexing and Dividing March 1957 They separated what the "basic" machine could do and what required attachments.? Still 10, but 6 + 4. ? ?Basic machine:? Lathe, Drill Press, Hand Drill, Polishing and Grinding, Tool Grinding, Milling ? ?With attachments:? Jig Saw, Threading, Circular Saw, Indexing and Dividing Nov 1965? The ad focused only on the basic machine as "6 machines", Lathe, Surface Grinder, Portable Drill, Tilting Head Drill Press, Polisher/Grinder, Vertical Miller Nov 1967? "5 in 1 Precision Machine"? (they dropped the "portable hand drill" configuration)? "5 in 1" continued to the end of the original Unimat advertising. Oct 1978 has the first Emco-Lux Corporation ad for the Unimat 3.? It also says, "Special note to owners of the Unimat SL series who have been looking for accessories.? Emco-Lux has and will continue to have a complete line of all Unimat parts and accessories, manufactured by Maier and Company, builders of the Unimat line since the early 1950's."? There is also an ad by Caboose Hobbies that calls the Unimat 3 the "improved version of the most versatile modeling tool ever produced."? I suppose that would suggest that the SL1000/DB200 could logically no longer be "the best" at that point? Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 08:31:58 AM PST, phill005 via groups.io <phill05@...> wrote:
It all depends what you want to do with it, for me it is the SL, a small footprint capable of doing most work on small clocks. But I needed to change a few things to make it better for me, I did not want a cnc but I wanted to get power movement to both axis which I have now done I replaced the bed ways fitted a small stepper motor to each and can now get movement at the press of a button. I later want to add indexing to the head and gear cutter on the cross slide. I have retained all old parts to revert it back to a SL lathe again if needs be. Here it is so far: Phill Before cast iron lathe in need of a little care. Work in progress. Index controller I built for a dividing head.?? |
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Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !
I think it has already been mentioned that there may not really be a "best" as it depends on what you want to do.? Also, what if you only want to "collect" one more than using it?? Then which might be "best."? Oldest?? Newest? One good place to start is to learn what you can about the various models.? The "lathes.uk" site has enough information to make your eyes bleed on a great many lathes (and I'm not sure if there is a better source in one place). For the original Unimats (earliest and the more common SL1000/DB200 and even copies), they have a "Unimat" section.: To cast a wider net including the Unimat 3 and 4 and many more you go to the "Emco Unimat" section. There is a lot to learn if you want to take a really deep dive.? For example, just how many configurations does it have?? Their own marketing changed this number quite a bit over the years.? The following info is from perusing Model Railroader magazine advertisements.starting with the very first. Oct 1954 "8 Precision tools in 1"? Lathe, Table Saw, Drill Press, Surface Grinder, Mill, Sander, Screw Cutter, Portable Hand Drill Aug 1956? "10 in 1"? Lathe, Drill Press, Hand Drill, Polishing or Grinding, Tool Grinding, Milling, Jig Saw, Threading, Circular Saw, Indexing and Dividing March 1957 They separated what the "basic" machine could do and what required attachments.? Still 10, but 6 + 4. ? ?Basic machine:? Lathe, Drill Press, Hand Drill, Polishing and Grinding, Tool Grinding, Milling ? ?With attachments:? Jig Saw, Threading, Circular Saw, Indexing and Dividing Nov 1965? The ad focused only on the basic machine as "6 machines", Lathe, Surface Grinder, Portable Drill, Tilting Head Drill Press, Polisher/Grinder, Vertical Miller Nov 1967? "5 in 1 Precision Machine"? (they dropped the "portable hand drill" configuration)? "5 in 1" continued to the end of the original Unimat advertising. Oct 1978 has the first Emco-Lux Corporation ad for the Unimat 3.? It also says, "Special note to owners of the Unimat SL series who have been looking for accessories.? Emco-Lux has and will continue to have a complete line of all Unimat parts and accessories, manufactured by Maier and Company, builders of the Unimat line since the early 1950's."? There is also an ad by Caboose Hobbies that calls the Unimat 3 the "improved version of the most versatile modeling tool ever produced."? I suppose that would suggest that the SL1000/DB200 could logically no longer be "the best" at that point? Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 08:31:58 AM PST, phill005 via groups.io <phill05@...> wrote:
It all depends what you want to do with it, for me it is the SL, a small footprint capable of doing most work on small clocks. But I needed to change a few things to make it better for me, I did not want a cnc but I wanted to get power movement to both axis which I have now done I replaced the bed ways fitted a small stepper motor to each and can now get movement at the press of a button. I later want to add indexing to the head and gear cutter on the cross slide. I have retained all old parts to revert it back to a SL lathe again if needs be. Here it is so far: Phill Before cast iron lathe in need of a little care. Work in progress. Index controller I built for a dividing head.?? |
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Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !
It all depends what you want to do with it, for me it is the SL, a small footprint capable of doing most work on small clocks.
But I needed to change a few things to make it better for me, I did not want a cnc but I wanted to get power movement to both axis which I have now done I replaced the bed ways fitted a small stepper motor to each and can now get movement at the press of a button. I later want to add indexing to the head and gear cutter on the cross slide. I have retained all old parts to revert it back to a SL lathe again if needs be. Here it is so far: Phill Before cast iron lathe in need of a little care. Work in progress. Index controller I built for a dividing head.?? |
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Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Jeff: I've had my first Unimat since 1974 and have used it for many projects. One job called for 3/4" holes in 3/4" aluminum plate. I set the Unimat up as a drill press and drill the hole in steps for 1/4" up. Another job called for milling 1/2" x 1" holes in 3/32" aluminum, 75 times. With patience the Unimat did both jobs. Now my favorite job is cutting styrine plastic with the table saw at slow speed. This avoids melting the plastic! I've even made an adapter to use the Unimat head on my Smithy Lathe as a live spindle for cross drilling lathe work. Carl. On 3/7/2023 10:31 AM, Jeff R. Allen
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290 Tooth Gear
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Jeff: I love
dividing problems! You might build a indexer similar to the 5C spin indexer. They have a 36 hole disk with a 10 hole vernier to give a 360 degree index. If you had a 29 hole disk and a vernier you could have your 290 spacings. For a 9 inch blank you might mount the gear and indexer on the carriage and tilt the head until you can reach the cutter, perhaps a one tooth fly cutter? Paper print outs might make it possible to drill the index disks. Good
luck, Carl. On 3/6/2023 12:07 PM, Jeff R. Allen
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Carl