Re: Cast Iron for Unimat Base
I have? some aluminium tool plate discs 12" diameter, I got them on ebay when I needed a 12" pulley, the seller was a local company to me that made roulette? tables, when I went to collect my 10 12" discs? 1 1/2" thick, I couldn't help but notice the 24" discs in their scrap bin. The aluminium tool plate has been machined flat from the factory, as evidenced by the machining marks on the surface. So if I were in need of a flat surface to mount my unimat, that would be the route I would choose, mine is currently mounted on a section of worktop, which is plenty? flat enough for my usage. Peter?
Last Wednesday I had a note from dear husband for a tool pickup... I actually work up naturally, early and without an alarm, to find a note to buy a tool. I wanted a different motor for my taig, and older, quieter motor, as I'm not exceptionally fond of the Marathon Motor that I have..and the seller was a kind retired (from the AF) machinist... we had a fun conversation about tools and he assumed that I was buying for my husband... and he mentioned his son has some Unimat accessories... we got on the conversation of surface plates; He asked me to follow him and he said what is the idea size?? and I truly think 12x18 is the perfect size... I was gifted one this past Wednesday.? It needs a vat of rust remover, but it was actually 12x18!? So no machining cast iron will be in my future, but a large qty of rust remover may do the job. I wanted cast iron for a magnetic dial indicator --- this one is steel, so no aluminum plates are in my future at the present time. I hope to be back to using the Unimat this week. Tamra
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Re: tooling website found
Is there a specific reason?? I know I won't ship to Italy and Spain; I've had too many packages that vanish once they get to the local postal service.
-Dave
On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 09:58:13 AM PDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
A lot of European companies don't want to ship to USA.?
Interesting and a little off topic but why does Brexit impact dealing / shipping between Europe and UK? would those same places refuse to ship to the US?
On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:56?AM, phill005 via groups.io <phill05@...> wrote:
?Many thanks for the information Re: my first reply " Very
interesting site some nice tools also a pity you can't read it in English but then I guess they would not ship to UK". I hope I am wrong they have some good machines and accessories.
I found a guy on here Jeff in USA selling some of the parts I wanted I got him to ship to my niece in Canada then she included them with other things and shipped to UK " a lot of air miles just to get some parts.?
I have had some other companies selling Unimat parts and machines say they did not want to ship to UK because of Brexit, example:? ?Phill
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Good evening.
I only sell in Europe, not UK.
That is too much hassle now with customs and tax
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regards
Jan
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Peter, did you get it to work?? I just used a countersink myself, but on plywood and was in the stage of wonder of this simple invention.? I even took a picture with my phone to remind me how to do this on plywood.?? Drilling 260 brass is agreeable.? ? I might have been swearing during the project that some of the brass I had from K & S did not seem like it was 260 brass as it machined quite differently, when I initially started turning brass balls with Taig's radius turner.?? I was drilling 5/32" balls to accept a .072 diameter brass rod and this drill bit 'finally' worked. I did try to re-sharpen my drill bits to a nice point and nothing was working... My brain remembers that I need zero degree rake for maching brass, but I could not accomplish this in a 49 gauge drill bit.? I just reordered more drill bits;? being frustrated and purchasing 2 at a time, to xx for shipping... The latest order that I purchased was visibly without magnification very inconsistent at the tip of the tool bit and that point was very helpful in controlling the drill bit from wobbling, when drilling 5/32" brass balls. I thought the TIN coating worked best for my application, initially I bought 3 to test what worked. I finally created a jig to hold the 5/32" balls and drilled them on my unimat, set up as mill. The blasted 5/32" balls needed 4 holes, 2 sets of holes that a perpendicular to the other 2 holes... it sounded easy, but I am finally close to that goal of making a brass bed.? I hope to have it finished soon, just working on jig to assemble all the little pieces in a perpendicular manner.? Who wants a wonky brass bed?? Not me! It is hot & humid for the next 10 days so I don't know if this is going to get done with this weather.  Tamra
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Re: ER32 Collet on Unimat
Hi Dick:
I think the cone surface was running within 0.001". For the work I do it is fine.?
Carl.
On 06/16/2024 9:56 PM EDT OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
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Thanks,Carl!
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How accurate are the ER32 collets when the collet adapter is mounted on the Unimat 12mm threaded spindle?
Thanks,?
Dick
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On Saturday, June 15, 2024, 6:29 AM, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hi Dick.
I think I put photos in the files.
Carl.?
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Model Engineering show October 12 - 13, 2024 in Auburn, IN
Dennis L, the man I got my surface plate from said that there is a new show in Indiana...
I think it is year #2.??
I found this post - perhaps some of the people who previously exhibited in the NAME show in Michigan will attend this event.
The show in Michigan usually conflicted with the International Miniature Show in Chicago in April, and then
I think C-19 had a major effect on the NAME show...so I'm hopeful that I can attend this one, it is a much easier drive.? ?
Tamra
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Re: Cast Iron for Unimat Base
Last Wednesday I had a note from dear husband for a tool pickup... I actually work up naturally, early and without an alarm, to find a note to buy a tool.
I wanted a different motor for my taig, and older, quieter motor, as I'm not exceptionally fond of the Marathon Motor that I have...and the seller was a kind retired (from the AF) machinist... we had a fun conversation about tools and he assumed that I was buying for my husband... and he mentioned his son has some Unimat accessories... we got on the conversation of surface plates; He asked me to follow him and he said what is the idea size?? and I truly think 12x18 is the perfect size... I was gifted one this past Wednesday.? It needs a vat of rust remover, but it was actually 12x18!? So no machining cast iron will be in my future, but a large qty of rust remover may do the job.
I wanted cast iron for a magnetic dial indicator --- this one is steel, so no aluminum plates are in my future at the present time.
I hope to be back to using the Unimat this week.
Tamra
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Re: tooling website found
Thanks for sharing, amazing site with lots of tools to buy that I don't need but would love to have
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Re: ER32 Collet on Unimat
Thanks,Carl!
How accurate are the ER32 collets when the collet adapter is mounted on the Unimat 12mm threaded spindle? Thanks,? Dick
On Saturday, June 15, 2024, 6:29 AM, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hi Dick.
I think I put photos in the files.
Carl.?
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Re: tooling website found
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 04:46 PM, John Entwistle wrote:
Interesting and a little off topic but why does Brexit impact dealing / shipping between Europe and UK? would those same places refuse to ship to the US?
The EU operates an Open Market, which hugely simplifies the paperwork involved in shipping between countries within the EU. The UK is now outside the EU and is now subject to Third Country rules, which means all the old complications have come back. In addition the latest VAT rules mean that suppliers outside the UK (not just in the EU) must open an account with HMRC in the UK and charge UK VAT on sales into the UK, and then pay this to HMRC. Some suppliers have just said: Do WHAT? You must be kidding!! And as a UK resident I don't blame them. Note: I think I've got the basics of the current situation, but I may well be wrong about all the details. I'd love to be totally wrong about all of it, but I fear I am not.
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Re: Cast Iron for Unimat Base
And non-magnetic. Which could be either a feature or a bug, depending on why you want to use a griddle. For me, I think a place to stick a magnetic indicator holder would be a very strong draw. If you're wanting it to stiffen the Unimat a bit and add handles, the aluminum griddle might be a better choice. Be lighter, too.?
:) if you're trying to turn a Unimat into a Monarch...
So many conflicting desires. ;)
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:16:50 AM CDT, John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...> wrote:
Or you could go to Walmart and get a Nordicware cast aluminum griddle.? Obviously non-magnetic, but a lot lighter and easier to machine.
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Re: tooling website found
A lot of European companies don't want to ship to USA.?
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On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:56?AM, phill005 via groups.io <phill05@...> wrote:
?Many thanks for the information Re: my first reply " Very
interesting site some nice tools also a pity you can't read it in English but then I guess they would not ship to UK". I hope I am wrong they have some good machines and accessories.
I found a guy on here Jeff in USA selling some of the parts I wanted I got him to ship to my niece in Canada then she included them with other things and shipped to UK " a lot of air miles just to get some parts.?
I have had some other companies selling Unimat parts and machines say they did not want to ship to UK because of Brexit, example:? ?Phill
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Good evening.
I only sell in Europe, not UK.
That is too much hassle now with customs and tax
?
regards
Jan
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Re: Cast Iron for Unimat Base
Or you could go to Walmart and get a Nordicware cast aluminum griddle.? Obviously non-magnetic, but a lot lighter and easier to machine.
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Re: Cast Iron for Unimat Base
Just for your information,The Lodge cast iron griddle is not flat as it comes from the store! It needs to be hand scraped and checked against a surface plate.
On Tuesday, May 28, 2024, 12:33 PM, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hello Tamra:
A dia 6mm bit
should spin about 800 rpm on cast iron. Don't use oil, it will
form an abrasive paste that will dull your bit. It is a bit
messy and the chips and dust will turn your hands black. Some
folks use lard.
It is OK to
tap cast iron, so then you won't need the spot face on the
underside.
Surface
grinding would be a very nice touch and would reduce the chance
of twisting the frame of the Unimat.
I did this to
my cast iron table saw for a place to mount my Unimat, and it
worked fine.
Best wishes,
Carl.
On 5/28/2024 10:42 AM, Tamra wrote:
Recently shopping at Ollie's in our city, and I found a 2nd Lodge
cast iron griddle for $30 at Ollie's.
I'm guessing they are slightly imperfect to land in Ollie's, but I
thought the flat side was nice and
it will be great to use a magnetic dial indicator.... now I just
need to weigh the parts, combined to
see if my drawer slides that I purchased for a wall cabinet will
work.? We got an Ollie's during C-19
lockdown and we have finally gone in the store about 5x in the
last year.? I remember when this
topic was posted previously.??
The "plan" was to make something to hold the cast iron griddle,
that could be put back into the?
unimat cabinet for storage off the bench surface.? Now that I have
the griddle decision made
it is easier to build the wall cabinet, surely a unimat and
griddle will not exceed 100 lbs as I would
not be able to lift it off the drawer slides for use.
Home depot lowered the price on butcher block surfaces - I want
one, but it stayed in the store!
Next is to figure out how to mount a unimat to a cast iron
griddle... I'm assuming a drill and bolts
will do the trick.? I did buy some beautiful figured cherry late
winter, perhaps that will become?
the Uni case.? But it needs to be dried, so this is going to take
a while.... he has promised a solar
powered small drying build for bowl blanks and wood....this
year... will use You Tube resources.
I have never drilled cast iron, and the back side has ridges for
grill marks, so I'm assuming I'm going
to mill those ridges off, where I place the bolts.? I'm glad I own
a taig mill, although I was thinking
that Mr. Pete doing accessories to use on the Uni on a big machine
was irritating... but now I've come
off my figurative ledge on the subject.
What speed do I need to drill in cast iron with a drill press?
Tamra
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On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:56?AM, phill005 via groups.io <phill05@...> wrote: ?Many thanks for the information Re: my first reply " Very interesting site some nice tools also a pity you can't read it in English but then I guess they would not ship to UK". I hope I am wrong they have some good machines and accessories.
I found a guy on here Jeff in USA selling some of the parts I wanted I got him to ship to my niece in Canada then she included them with other things and shipped to UK " a lot of air miles just to get some parts.? I have had some other companies selling Unimat parts and machines say they did not want to ship to UK because of Brexit, example:? ?Phill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Good evening. I only sell in Europe, not UK.
That is too much hassle now with customs and tax
?
regards
Jan
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Many thanks for the information Re: my first reply " Very interesting site some nice tools also a pity you can't read it in English but then I guess they would not ship to UK". I hope I am wrong they have some good machines and accessories.
I found a guy on here Jeff in USA selling some of the parts I wanted I got him to ship to my niece in Canada then she included them with other things and shipped to UK " a lot of air miles just to get some parts.? I have had some other companies selling Unimat parts and machines say they did not want to ship to UK because of Brexit, example:? ?Phill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Good evening. I only sell in Europe, not UK.
That is too much hassle now with customs and tax
?
regards
Jan
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Good find! ?Thank you. ??
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 08:12 AM, phill005 wrote:
Very interesting site some nice tools also a pity you can't read it in English but then I guess they would not ship to UK.
I have some of their collet holders, shipped to the UK no problem. The website offers "Worldwide delivery". I use Chrome and it automatically translates most of the text. The items I've had from GGtools are good quality, nice and accurate, but the full range is not available all the time. I think they are made in batches.
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Re: ER32 Collet on Unimat
That's got some stick-out on it, but I don't believe it's much worse than the ER25 chuck I built. Looks like it was dialed in very well, too. Mine hasn't been tested yet. Greater capacity of the ER32 might be very, very nice.
Bill in OKC?
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY!
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 07:46:21 AM CDT, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
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Photo in series of building.
On 06/15/2024 7:29 AM EDT Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
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Hi Dick.
I think I put photos in the files.
Carl.?
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Re: tooling website found
I gave this site a quick look.? It is similar in flavor to Little Machine Shop in the U.S. in that it has lower cost Chinese small machines and accessories.? Some accessories might be from India, don't know.? However, they seem to not have any mini-mills.? The closest I could find was a small combo lathe-mill that seems identical to the Grizzly B0937 (6x10 Combo).? For lathes, they show C0 ("Baby"), C1 ("Micro") and SC2 ("Mini") lathes.? I believe they are all rebranded Sieg lathes and those are Sieg model numbers.? The 6x10 combo is a Sieg M1 "Multipurpose Machine" in Sieg's parlance.
Probably a good source for home hobbyists and amateur machinists in Europe.? I don't see much reason to buy from them if you are in the U.S. unless they have something you can't find anywhere else.? But it seems they have generic low-end machines and accessories sold by others like Little Machine Shop in the U.S. and ArcEuroTrade in the UK.??
Their model of the early Mercedes Benz looked interesting.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 05:33:12 AM PDT, <jp316@...> wrote:
Good fine. Great little QCTH on there as well as a bunch of other stuff at good prices.
I assume that is correct for the SL as well as the 2 and 3?
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Re: ER32 Collet on Unimat
Carl, Thanks for posting your ER32 collet pictures. Now as long as I have the full set of collets I will adapt my Unimat to suit.
On Saturday, June 15, 2024, 7:46 AM, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
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Photo in series of building.
On 06/15/2024 7:29 AM EDT Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
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Hi Dick.
I think I put photos in the files.
Carl.?
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Tamra
Carl
David James
OldToolmaker
Bill in OKC too
John Entwistle