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Re: What on earth are these?
? though I searched as dapping block set William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:20:35 PM CDT, Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
I believe these are what are called "Tooling Balls".? They are typically used in the accurate positioning of work pieces.? The shank goes into a hole and then the surface of the ball is used as a reference.? Of course, actual position must be offset based on the diameter of the ball used.? This is similar to techniques using gauge pins, but the ball shape allows more versatility, such as if dealing with angles. Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:11:23 AM PDT, Adrian Nicolson via groups.io <adrian_nicolson@...> wrote:
Commonly known as Dapping or Doming Punches...used predominately by the jewellery trades and crafts Regards, Adrian
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023, 18:06:20 BST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
That's exactly?what they are. There is a piece missing, which is the doming block (or blocks, in most cases).?
A full new set at Harbor Freight is less than 40 bucks. I would not pay much for this incomplete set.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:01 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Unimat] What on earth are these? ?
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related.
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Re: What on earth are these?
They're for making domed shapes in precious sheet metal for jewelry making. One of the many things I intended to make for myself, one of these days. Finally got the lathe in 2008, took until last may to? learn to use the machine tools I've bought since then... ;) Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:01:31 PM CDT, Peter Brooks <peter@...> wrote:
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related. |
Re: What on earth are these?
I think it may be unknowable whether these were purchased for jewelry making or machinist inspection purposes. Again, ones that look identical are sold by machinery supply houses.? Refer to the MSC page below and scroll down past the shouldered ones.? And you will see unshouldered ones just like the original poster's photo.? Unless other jewelry making doo dads (and there are all sorts of cool stuff in that industry) associated with the lathe they may have been used for a usual machinist purpose.? On the other hand, the wide variety of sizes is a vote for jewelry making.? On the third hand, you could buy ones for jewelry making and use them for machinist inspection purposes, or on the fourth hand buy inspection tooling balls and use them for jewelry making. Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 02:51:01 PM PDT, Davis Johnson <davis@...> wrote:
A third option would be the "dent balls" used by brass instrument
repair folks. They are forced thru a tube to push out dents. They
generally don't have the stem that these have, and are frequently
barrel shaped. On 9/19/23 13:25, Charles Kinzer wrote:
I guess these could be either
"tooling balls" or the devices for jewelry making.? Some of
them look identical in photos.? I suppose one difference might
be how accurately they are ground.? Being with a machine tool
suggests to me they are more likely to be tooling balls which
machinists use.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:20:37 AM PDT,
Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
I believe these are what are called
"Tooling Balls".? They are typically used in the
accurate positioning of work pieces.? The shank goes
into a hole and then the surface of the ball is used
as a reference.? Of course, actual position must be
offset based on the diameter of the ball used.? This
is similar to techniques using gauge pins, but the
ball shape allows more versatility, such as if
dealing with angles.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:11:23 AM
PDT, Adrian Nicolson via groups.io
<adrian_nicolson@...> wrote:
Commonly known as Dapping or
Doming Punches...used predominately by the
jewellery trades and crafts
Regards,
Adrian
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023,
18:06:20 BST, Andrei
<calciu1@...> wrote:
That's exactly?what they are.
There is a piece missing, which is
the doming block (or blocks, in
most cases).?
A full new set at Harbor Freight
is less than 40 bucks. I would not
pay much for this incomplete set.?
From:
[email protected]
<[email protected]> on
behalf of Peter Brooks
<peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:01 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Unimat] What on earth are these? ?
Looks like they could be for
beating metal to a dome shape¡ but
I have no idea. They were pictured
with a lathe so probably
metal-working related.
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Re: Tips on machining pulley grooves
Another option if you can't shape a cutter.? ?Go to a chain saw shop or dealer and purchase a chain file, they come in various diameters, 3/32 or 1/4" would be good, put them on the tool holder or hand hold them you should be able to get a good finish fast.? ?Their teeth are on a diamond pattern as they are used to cut at an angle for sharpening chains.? ?Just my option.? ?Harbor Freight also has diamond burrs? for dremel tools with 1/8'' shanks that might work also.?
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Re: What on earth are these?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýA third option would be the "dent balls" used by brass instrument
repair folks. They are forced thru a tube to push out dents. They
generally don't have the stem that these have, and are frequently
barrel shaped. On 9/19/23 13:25, Charles Kinzer wrote:
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Re: Tips on machining pulley grooves
Building the new pulley out of 2 or 3 pieces seems like it might be a good approach.
?
-Guy-
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Re: What on earth are these?
Except not all tooling balls have that shoulder.? Those are sometimes called "shoulder balls". For example:?? Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:47 AM PDT, Peter Brooks <peter@...> wrote:
Thanks Carl.
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Re: What on earth are these?
They were with an Emco Compact 5 at a local sale room auction here in the UK, if that is any clue.
(The lathe went for ~?200 + 38% (auction house charges, VAT etc.). I made one cheeky bid in case it went for really silly money but I hadn¡¯t seen it in person, so had no idea if it was metric or imperial, or working or not. ?Someone might have got a bargain methinks). |
Re: What on earth are these?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Peter: They are part of a punching block set: They are similar to tooling balls, that are used for set up work: The main difference is the tooling ball shoulder is a known
distance from the center of the ball, and the ball is true to the
shank. Handy for setting up angled work. Carl. On 9/19/2023 1:01 PM, Peter Brooks
wrote:
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related. |
Re: What on earth are these?
I guess these could be either "tooling balls" or the devices for jewelry making.? Some of them look identical in photos.? I suppose one difference might be how accurately they are ground.? Being with a machine tool suggests to me they are more likely to be tooling balls which machinists use. Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:20:37 AM PDT, Charles Kinzer <ckinzer@...> wrote:
I believe these are what are called "Tooling Balls".? They are typically used in the accurate positioning of work pieces.? The shank goes into a hole and then the surface of the ball is used as a reference.? Of course, actual position must be offset based on the diameter of the ball used.? This is similar to techniques using gauge pins, but the ball shape allows more versatility, such as if dealing with angles. Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:11:23 AM PDT, Adrian Nicolson via groups.io <adrian_nicolson@...> wrote:
Commonly known as Dapping or Doming Punches...used predominately by the jewellery trades and crafts Regards, Adrian
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023, 18:06:20 BST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
That's exactly?what they are. There is a piece missing, which is the doming block (or blocks, in most cases).?
A full new set at Harbor Freight is less than 40 bucks. I would not pay much for this incomplete set.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:01 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Unimat] What on earth are these? ?
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related.
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Re: What on earth are these?
I believe these are what are called "Tooling Balls".? They are typically used in the accurate positioning of work pieces.? The shank goes into a hole and then the surface of the ball is used as a reference.? Of course, actual position must be offset based on the diameter of the ball used.? This is similar to techniques using gauge pins, but the ball shape allows more versatility, such as if dealing with angles. Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:11:23 AM PDT, Adrian Nicolson via groups.io <adrian_nicolson@...> wrote:
Commonly known as Dapping or Doming Punches...used predominately by the jewellery trades and crafts Regards, Adrian
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023, 18:06:20 BST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
That's exactly?what they are. There is a piece missing, which is the doming block (or blocks, in most cases).?
A full new set at Harbor Freight is less than 40 bucks. I would not pay much for this incomplete set.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:01 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Unimat] What on earth are these? ?
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related.
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Re: What on earth are these?
Commonly known as Dapping or Doming Punches...used predominately by the jewellery trades and crafts Regards, Adrian
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023, 18:06:20 BST, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
That's exactly?what they are. There is a piece missing, which is the doming block (or blocks, in most cases).?
A full new set at Harbor Freight is less than 40 bucks. I would not pay much for this incomplete set.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:01 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Unimat] What on earth are these? ?
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related.
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Re: What on earth are these?
Andrei
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That's exactly?what they are. There is a piece missing, which is the doming block (or blocks, in most cases).?
A full new set at Harbor Freight is less than 40 bucks. I would not pay much for this incomplete set.?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:01 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Unimat] What on earth are these? ?
Looks like they could be for beating metal to a dome shape¡ but I have no idea. They were pictured with a lathe so probably metal-working related.
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Re: Off Topic measuring units
I may disagree, 0 is the temperature of your perfect whiskey, 100 your perfect tea! Carlos On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 16:39, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
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Re: Off Topic measuring units
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi
Gang: While
it is not the basis of the Fahrenheit scale, I like to think
of it as a human scale. Below 0? and above 100? are both life
threatening. Carl. On 9/19/2023 11:11 AM, Ian Adam wrote:
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