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Re: brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck
it would seem that the jaws are hardened, so the act of brazing would soften them, so you might be able to soften them and drill tap and insert screws to replace the tooth, then file the tooth to shape and then reharden the jaw.
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From "Herman de Leeuw via groups.io" <herman.deleeuw@...>
Date 15/03/2023 14:40:02
Subject Re: [Unimat] brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck
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Re: brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou might also want to explore the emcounimat.nl site, a new UNIMAT SL 3 jaw chuck sells there for €78 - not sure about freight cost to US but rather than just 3 jaws, this will get you a complete new chuck. Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht -------- Van: Quinn Golden <quinngolden@...> Datum: 15-03-2023 14:14 (GMT+01:00) Aan: niczano@..., [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: [Unimat] brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck A seller on eBay has a set available, 58$ plus 8 for freight. ?I have purchased from him in the past with no issues.? |
Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýTwo cans here.? Thanks for giving it a shot. ? Scott ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Tamra B
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 8:41 PM To: John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ? Pre C-19, if my memory is intact, I went to my local store and they indicated they would custom mix the color for me.? I have a pretty pristine unimat SL, and I'm pretty sure they will put it a spray can for me, and they may even give me
a hammered finish.? But to be on the safe side, I purchased a clear can of Rustoleum?? hammered paint.? So, I don't know how to ship out of the country in spray can, so all of you that are in international countries, it is my understanding that shipping something
less then 16 oz is stupidly expensive, so forgive my unwillingness to attempt to ship out of the country.?? |
Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
I will take 2 cans if it can be done.? Standard size can.? Thank you for trying. On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:41?PM Tamra B <tamrabrogdon@...> wrote: Pre C-19, if my memory is intact, I went to my local store and they indicated they would custom mix the color for me.? I have a pretty pristine unimat SL, and I'm pretty sure they will put it a spray can for me, and they may even give me a hammered finish.? But to be on the safe side, I purchased a clear can of Rustoleum?? hammered paint.? So, I don't know how to ship out of the country in spray can, so all of you that are in international countries, it is my understanding that shipping something less then 16 oz is stupidly expensive, so forgive my unwillingness to attempt to ship out of the country.?? |
Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Pre C-19, if my memory is intact, I went to my local store and they indicated they would custom mix the color for me.? I have a pretty pristine unimat SL, and I'm pretty sure they will put it a spray can for me, and they may even give me a hammered finish.? But to be on the safe side, I purchased a clear can of Rustoleum?? hammered paint.? So, I don't know how to ship out of the country in spray can, so all of you that are in international countries, it is my understanding that shipping something less then 16 oz is stupidly expensive, so forgive my unwillingness to attempt to ship out of the country.??
I can go back to Sherwin Williams and ask again.? Who wants a small can of custom colored Unimat green with hammered paint in a spray can?? I won't upcharge, only actual charge for paint, with posted copy of the invoice and actual shipping.? You pay before I ship.? I have 3 locations in my neighboring city, surely one of them will mix this for us.? I don't know how much it will cost, but I would expect it cost $10 to ship ground, as I don't think I can mail a spray can via US Mail, if I can the shipping might be less.? ?Do we prefer a can that is smaller then a standard size can of rustoleum?? Please respond by Friday, March 17, 2023 by 11:59 pm, EST and I will attempt to go to one of the stores on Saturday and make an inquiry.? It makes more sense to go and request a larger order, then me going in and requesting 1 can... eh??? Tamra |
Re: 290 Tooth Gear
It's a great book! I'm going to have to scan parts of it, as I owe my copy to the guy who traded his Unimat for my 7x10 mini- lathe. Dug it and the notebook I put together myself out of the shop a couple of days ago. ?He said he really didn't need them, but I think I owe him. He gave me a really good price fo my lathe.? This is actually my 2nd copy, as I'd loaned the first one to a friend who passed away a few months later. I didn't figure his son needed even one more tiny problem to deal with. And mine don't either if something happens to me.? One of our doctors passed away yesterday. Auto accident. Brinks truck crossed the median and hit her head on at freeway speeds. She was 42. Great person, great doctor. World was already rather short of people like that. And today it's shorter. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 09:32:03 PM CDT, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Thanks, Bill That is certainly a nice collection of projects for the minilathe. Dick |
Re: 290 Tooth Gear
For $28+shipping, you can get the book they made with all Ted Hansen's 7x12 mini-lathe projects. Chapters 17, 18, and 19 are the complete dividing apparatus. You might as well get the whole book, as much of the rest of the material in the book is directly applicable to most any small lathe, and what isn't will still be adaptable... I was struck by his adaptation to turn a mini-lathe into a horizontal milling machine. I've had the book for a few years. Hadn't seen that until today. Same website as the magazines. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:13:08 PM CDT, Jeff R. Allen <jra@...> wrote:
Found it! Additions and Modifications to the Mini-Lathe: A Worm Drive for the Indexing Head Ted Hansen Lathes HSM Vol. 34 No. 3 May-Jun 2015 46 Back issue for sale here: Jeff On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 02:18 OldToolmaker via <old_toolmaker=[email protected]> wrote: Unfortunately, do to a cross country move, I no longer have those publications. |
Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
For all of us here, can you please provide more details.? I cannot find metallic hammered paint on the Sherwin Williams site.? Their "hammered" paint is for interiors.
If anyone wishes to search "Sherwin Williams" in our messages, you will see that we have been kicking this issue around for years.? I cannot find any specific reference to a particular SW paint. |
Re: brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck
Silver solder would be a good choice, particularly if he had the correct hard, medium & easy solders, but he already has a brazing rod that should work if he can get his parts hot enough, and keep them that way long enough to get the broken teeth in place just right. Good thing about brazing, if you flub it up, you can try again. This I know from personal experience. :) Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 05:12:48 PM CDT, Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> wrote:
?You could try silver soldering it back on.?
?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 14, 2023 3:53 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck Brazing should hold up, but you're going to have to get the broken teeth in exactly the right place for each of the three teeth. Do you have enough fire brick or something similar to make a brazing hearth? Something like this:?
Doesn't have to be as fancy as she's trying, but it will give you a space to get your parts up to heat, and hold the jaw while you hold the broken teeth in place. Back when I was a younger man, I used pieces of wood that were well charred to do the same thing for jewelry work. you could pin the parts in place, then use a probe to hold small parts. Something like these:??Not that you'd have to buy them. You can make your own rather easily. Basically, you pin the part you're brazing to in place so it cannot move, heat it until the flux melts and coats the joint area, flux the part that is getting brazed in as well. Put a bit of the brazing rod on the spot where it needs to go, and melt off a bit of the casting rod. It should coat the area. Put the part to be brazed back in place, and use the pick to press it into place. If there is too much brazing material, it should be displaced when you press down on the bit you're brazing back in place.?
Good luck!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 02:03:12 PM CDT, niczano@... <niczano@...> wrote:
Hello,
?
I wanted to ask your advice.
?
Unfortunately, the 3-jaw chuck slipped out of my hands and fell to the ground. From the hit to the jaw n. 3 broke 3 teeth.
?
Luckily I had another original 3-jaw chuck but I would still like to recover this broken one too.
?
Initially the idea was to make a small hole (0.5mm) on each tooth to insert a small harmonic steel wire to be inserted into an adjacent hole directly on the jaw. This is to have a support for brazing with castolin 8103.
?
Unfortunately I was unable to drill the steel of the tooth. At this point the idea is to braze directly by inventing a way to keep the teeth in position while I heat the piece.
?
Have any of you ever experienced something like this. Do you think brazing can hold up?
?
Thank you
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
I had the Sherwin Williams Industrial paint store mix up some hammer finish paint using a Unimat part for their color comparison. ?The outcome is extremely close to the original color. ?I've used both an air finish sprayer (Harbor Freight) and my air brush. ?Good results from both.
Keep your fingers out of the works,... -- Steve Jaynes Unimat owner/collector since 1995, all generations. |
Re: brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck
?You could try silver soldering it back on.?
?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 14, 2023 3:53 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck Brazing should hold up, but you're going to have to get the broken teeth in exactly the right place for each of the three teeth. Do you have enough fire brick or something similar to make a brazing hearth? Something like this:?
Doesn't have to be as fancy as she's trying, but it will give you a space to get your parts up to heat, and hold the jaw while you hold the broken teeth in place. Back when I was a younger man, I used pieces of wood that were well charred to do the same thing for jewelry work. you could pin the parts in place, then use a probe to hold small parts. Something like these:??Not that you'd have to buy them. You can make your own rather easily. Basically, you pin the part you're brazing to in place so it cannot move, heat it until the flux melts and coats the joint area, flux the part that is getting brazed in as well. Put a bit of the brazing rod on the spot where it needs to go, and melt off a bit of the casting rod. It should coat the area. Put the part to be brazed back in place, and use the pick to press it into place. If there is too much brazing material, it should be displaced when you press down on the bit you're brazing back in place.?
Good luck!
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 02:03:12 PM CDT, niczano@... <niczano@...> wrote:
Hello,
?
I wanted to ask your advice.
?
Unfortunately, the 3-jaw chuck slipped out of my hands and fell to the ground. From the hit to the jaw n. 3 broke 3 teeth.
?
Luckily I had another original 3-jaw chuck but I would still like to recover this broken one too.
?
Initially the idea was to make a small hole (0.5mm) on each tooth to insert a small harmonic steel wire to be inserted into an adjacent hole directly on the jaw. This is to have a support for brazing with castolin 8103.
?
Unfortunately I was unable to drill the steel of the tooth. At this point the idea is to braze directly by inventing a way to keep the teeth in position while I heat the piece.
?
Have any of you ever experienced something like this. Do you think brazing can hold up?
?
Thank you
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Re: brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi, ? I did the same thing, dropped the chuck and broke a tooth on a jaw. After months of searching I found a seller on eBay that had individual jaws. The seller is . I was able to buy one jaw, but I don¡¯t know what they have now. Try his online store. ? Pete Vernaci ? Sent from for Windows ? From: niczano@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 12:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Unimat] brazing broken teeth of 3-jaw chuck ? Hello, ? I wanted to ask your advice. ? Unfortunately, the 3-jaw chuck slipped out of my hands and fell to the ground. From the hit to the jaw n. 3 broke 3 teeth. ? Luckily I had another original 3-jaw chuck but I would still like to recover this broken one too. ? Initially the idea was to make a small hole (0.5mm) on each tooth to insert a small harmonic steel wire to be inserted into an adjacent hole directly on the jaw. This is to have a support for brazing with castolin 8103. ? Unfortunately I was unable to drill the steel of the tooth. At this point the idea is to braze directly by inventing a way to keep the teeth in position while I heat the piece. ? Have any of you ever experienced something like this. Do you think brazing can hold up? ? Thank you ? |
Re: SL modifications
That is really a clean system. Well done! JohnOn Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:45?PM David via <andreadee=[email protected]> wrote: Good evening, |
Re: Unimat Mill/Drill Mounting System ?
Workbench is too filled for me to make a pretty picture.? Here is a Uni3 with the milling column bolted on, mounted on a veneer particle board base.? Next to it is one of the green Chinese milling tables.? So when head is turned that way, the whole lathe is used as a milling stand.?
If you want a completely separate installation, search around the Misumi US site.? They sell 4 hole flanged bushings in various metric IDs.? One of these can be screwed down to a base for a vertical column. |
Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýTrue, but the webpage contains the option "avvisami quando disponibile", i.e. "let me know when it's available again" ... Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht -------- Van: Alan Ehrlich <alan.ehrlich@...> Datum: 13-03-2023 16:42 (GMT+01:00) Aan: [email protected], niczano@... Onderwerp: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Thank you, looks great. But unfortunately it appears to be out-of-stock presently unavailable. ? Kind regards, AlN ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of niczano@...
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 1:33 PM To: Quinn Golden <quinngolden@...>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ?
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Re: Unimat Mill/Drill Mounting System ?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe drill/mill attachment for the Unimat 3 is attached directly to the bed of the lathe at the back side. The attachment is made through a V-notch that is integrally part of the bed. The drill stand is attached with 2 allen bolts and for all I know this ensures proper alignment. However, in ensuing models, the drill attachment required more bolts. Since the Unimat 3 attachment is part of the bed, it can not be taken away and attached to anither machine. There also existsed a "drill stand bridging attachment" that could be fixed to the cross slide by attaching it there through 2 allen bilts and T-nuts. The drill stand could then be attached upright in this bridging attachment by using the heavy central T-nut. I dont have that bridging attachment but I doubt whether that would provide the same rigidty as the normal attachment described above. Hope this helps somewhat. Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht -------- Van: "clankennedy2004 via groups.io" <clankennedy2004@...> Datum: 13-03-2023 18:25 (GMT+01:00) Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: [Unimat] Unimat Mill/Drill Mounting System ? |