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Re: Toy? lathe
I looked at the Knapp toy catalog and it looks like their motors were small and made with cast iron ends. That would have been normal in the 1920's. The motors came in 110v and 6v. That does not look like a original motor. It is also different then the erector set motors. I have several of the old erector sets with motors. The motor in the photo appears to be old and nickel plated. I am not sure what it is from.
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From: Carl <carl.blum@...> To: [email protected]; mycroft@... Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2023 10:57 am Subject: Re: [Unimat] Toy? lathe
Hi Gang;
I think it could cut light wood or Styrofoam.?
I really liked the Erector Set parts in the drive train. Is the electric motor Erector too? The shafts and pulleys sure all.
Carl.
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Re: Toy? lathe
Hi Gang;
I think it could cut light wood or Styrofoam.?
I really liked the Erector Set parts in the drive train. Is the electric motor Erector too? The shafts and pulleys sure all.
Carl.
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Re: Toy? lathe
Mere details! ;) It's die cast, so likely pot metal. Not that it isn't (probably) usable, but that would be a fun repair. :) Any boy would be happy to have it! Just not for $350.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 08:13:03 AM CST, Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> wrote:
¡°IN EXCELLENT AS FOUND WORKING CONDITION AS SHOWN WITH NO CRACKS OR BREAKS¡±
LOL, the photo shows a huge crack on the face plate.
?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: mycroft@... <mycroft@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2023 8:41 am Subject: [Unimat] Toy? lathe I stumbled across
Not much more than a toy (or perhaps only a toy) but might have spurred an interest in a young incipient engineer. Not connected to Unimats, but it made me smile (almost laugh), and might perhaps amuse other members of the group |
Re: Toy? lathe
It's not a toy. It's a real wood lathe. Tiny wood lathe, but real. ;) Read a few of the "Boys Books" from that era, and they were doing all sorts of things that would have the Safety Nazis up in arms.??is one such, and I bought a copy in 2007, before I got my first "real" lathe.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 07:41:30 AM CST, mycroft@... <mycroft@...> wrote:
I stumbled across Not much more than a toy (or perhaps only a toy) but might have spurred an interest in a young incipient engineer. Not connected to Unimats, but it made me smile (almost laugh), and might perhaps amuse other members of the group |
Re: Toy? lathe
¡°IN EXCELLENT AS FOUND WORKING CONDITION AS SHOWN WITH NO CRACKS OR BREAKS¡±
LOL, the photo shows a huge crack on the face plate.
?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: mycroft@... <mycroft@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2023 8:41 am Subject: [Unimat] Toy? lathe I stumbled across
Not much more than a toy (or perhaps only a toy) but might have spurred an interest in a young incipient engineer. Not connected to Unimats, but it made me smile (almost laugh), and might perhaps amuse other members of the group |
Re: Problems on EBay?
You can send feedback to ebay.?? Should get you help for problems buying.? You could also send a message to the seller on one or more of the items you had a problem with and ask what happened to your purchase. That will get somebody's attention! HTH! Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better
On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 06:09:16 PM CST, Dennis Martin <marti595@...> wrote:
Lately, I have bid on an item, it seems to go through ok, then ?a few minutes later I receive an email saying the purchase did not go through. ?I also get a full-screen message from eBay that the purchase failed. ?I have not had my PayPal charged for these, but still it is irritating that my purchase has failed. ?I see no method to request an explanation from eBay. ?Open to suggestions, thanks. . Dennis M. in W. Tenn. |
Re: Problems on EBay?
Lately, I have bid on an item, it seems to go through ok, then ?a few minutes later I receive an email saying the purchase did not go through. ?I also get a full-screen message from eBay that the purchase failed. ?I have not had my PayPal charged for these, but still it is irritating that my purchase has failed. ?I see no method to request an explanation from eBay. ?Open to suggestions, thanks.
. Dennis M. in W. Tenn. |
Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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So I keep it even simpler, I use a small diamond wheel that is triangle shaped from Harbor Freight, chucked in the drill chuck on the lathe, mount the bit to sharpen or shape on the tool rest at whatever angle is needed.? ?I finish using an oil stone to polish the bit.? ??
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Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 02:04 AM, Keith S. Angus wrote: ... much simpler - no spindle, no pulleys - just mount the wheel direct onto the motor shaft.Right ... I first thought of that but then it occurred to me that the motor's speed (stated as 5.000/6.000 rpm) would be too high for grinding HSS with a diamond wheel. What grit do you suggest for those speeds? ... need a tilting table to set your basic angle.Yes, something to be able to set angles in a reliable and consistent manner to achieve the same shape/angle every time. If you can grind a reasonable toolbit freehand with a normal bench grinder ...Nope, not a chance. Regular eyesight and lack of proper 'grinding' training makes a jig of some sort a basic requisite for me. ... ground surfaces that were almost polished, and very sharp cutting edges ...That is where I am aiming at + being able to do it every time. Eventually from blanks, instead of paying through the nose for ready ground HSS bits which have to be maintaine sharp properly. ie: done properly Thanks for your input. Best, JHM |
Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 03:21 AM, Julius Henry Marx wrote:
Just have to figure out the size of the pulleys and draw up a precision jig for the bits, probably the hardest part to make.No, keep it much simpler - no spindle, no pulleys - just mount the wheel direct onto the motor shaft. To guide the toolbit you need a tilting table to set your basic angle. If you are going to be very fancy you can add a protractor to the table so you can set up compound angles. If you can grind a reasonable toolbit freehand with a normal bench grinder you don't need much help to grind a much better one. I found that with the slower cutting rate of a fine diamond wheel I had time to think about what I was doing and make small adjustments before it was too late. At the same time I got ground surfaces that were almost polished, and very sharp cutting edges, and it still didn't take long. |
Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 11:01 PM, Keith S. Angus wrote: ... with a smallish (50 - 100 mm) diamond grinding wheel ...Yes, that was more or less what I was thinking of. It is the type of grinding wheel that would allow a precise geometry on the faces of a tool made from 4mm/8mm sq. HSS stock. ... you could sell it ...I don't see me making much profit vis-a-vis keeping it and getting another. And in spite of its limitations, it is a reasonably well built 2 speed motor that has been working perfectly well for the last 43 years. It is compact and would be easy to set up along a small bearing mounted bench spindle. Just have to figure out the size of the pulleys and draw up a precision jig for the bits, probably the hardest part to make. Thanks for your input. Best, JHM |
Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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I would set it up with a smallish (50 - 100 mm) diamond grinding wheel, preferably with a flat face (a cup wheel) for tool sharpening. My experiments so far suggest a diamond wheel can give a much sharper edge bu removes metal at a reasonable rate, at least for a small toolbit. At the same time it produces far less noise, smoke and dust than a normal grit wheel. Yes, you could sell it, but alternatively you could use it. Use would almost certainly be intermittent and brief.
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Re: Spindle ball bearings for Unimat 3 (2023)
Hello All, Thank you all for detailed information on?this question!? I got a pair of SKF 6003-2Z bearings from a US ebay seller (item 163649829660). These installed fine and measure around 0.015 mm runout if my measurements are correct. Kind Regards, Andrey On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 2:15 AM Keith S. Angus <keithsangus@...> wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 04:45 PM, Julius Henry Marx wrote: |
Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 06:00 PM, Mike wrote: As my Unimat 3 came with a Unimat milling table/head combination, I just added a new 24v / 200W motor with electronic speed control like the one I have on the lathe. All I have to do is switch the PS from one to the other when using the mill. If for whatever reason I ever have to mill a piece on the U3 itself, I can always set up the column on it in a short while. Rather a hassle if it is for a small/short job, but perfectly doable. Thanks so much for your input. Best, JHM |
Re: Unimat 3 motor - repurpose?
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Hello JHM, I have a new(ish) variable speed motor for my U3. I have the original set up on my milling machine attachment. Good to have the versatility of being able to use it in conjunction with the lathe. There are always some projects that would benefit from this versatility. Mike Szreider UK U3 owner. |
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