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Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

You're going to have to separate out the components of the email address, as this group has setting set to prevent members from seeing the full email address. Or not, as it is intended to protect people's IRL identity.? Just because I'm willing to share mine doesn't mean Martin feels the same way.?

I'm going to call the number B. Henry found, and see if they'll talk to me, and/or pass a message to Martin. I will report back once I have something to report.?

Bill in OKC


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

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Not sure if this is helpful to the group but I saved the original email from the Yahoo groups that I received when the GIO was formed.? It was created by "Marcus" and his email address is/was xpylonracer (at) gmail (dot) com.? From the emails I've seen and saved since then he did make Martin P a co-owner but nobody else that I recall seeing.? The email address I have for Martin is/was mdupreno1 (at) aol (dot) com but I think someone already posted that.? See below:



Fri 10/25/2019

Hi Fellow Members

I opened an iO Unimat Group as a free to use group with a storage limit of 1GB, to go to Premium costs $220 annually but offers up to 10GB data storage.
Even without announcing the group it has attracted 31 members at time of writing so now it is made known on this group we will see how much interest is created by any increase in numbers.

Because of the 1GB limit it is not possible to transfer all messages, photos and files to the new group without upgrading to the Premium account so it is not my intention to do so, or request iO make the transfer.
It will be possible to upload the Files section and selected photos, there are numerous pics of the same items included in the 1.73GB.
The 48,641 messages could be filtered to provide a number of files on different topics so providing a useful source of information.

The number of members listed for Yahoo Unimat Group doesn't take into account members where mail is bouncing or those who have lost interest, an invitation to join the new iO Unimat group will reflect the true number of members with current Unimat interest.

If you would like to join the iO group please follow the link below and use the +Join This Group button at the bottom of the page.?

?/g/Unimat (same link as in Carl's message #54374)

At present I am the sole owner/moderator for the group but it is my intention to appoint at least 1 further owner and up to 3 moderators to oversee the future running of the group if the plan is agreed by members.

If there is a strong demand to transfer all data by requesting iO to do a group transfer then it would simply need DB.SL added after Unimat to be an acceptable group name.

I welcome your comments and suggestions.

Regards, Marcus
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Posted by: xpylonracer@...





From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Scott B <sbilotta@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 9:57 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; whenry5@... <whenry5@...>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?
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Maybe this would be helpful?? I signed up for the group in early 2021.? I sent my 1st and only message to the group and weeks later, on 2/18/2021 apparently I was approved to post and my message came through.? There is a name at the top of my message in the to line: Mack Lipe <aerocam2@...>; [email protected]

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Scott

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William O. Henry
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 5:09 AM
To: [email protected]; wmrmeyers@...
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

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This may not go through as I don¡¯t recall having posted to this group in the past. A search for Martin Pickney turned up 10 people by that name in the USA. One is recently deceased; Martin J Pickney, residence Baton Rouge, LA, passed away on 3 May 2021. Where did this groups Martin live.

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B. Henry


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

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Maybe this would be helpful?? I signed up for the group in early 2021.? I sent my 1st and only message to the group and weeks later, on 2/18/2021 apparently I was approved to post and my message came through.? There is a name at the top of my message in the to line: Mack Lipe <aerocam2@...>; [email protected]

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Scott

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William O. Henry
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 5:09 AM
To: [email protected]; wmrmeyers@...
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

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This may not go through as I don¡¯t recall having posted to this group in the past. A search for Martin Pickney turned up 10 people by that name in the USA. One is recently deceased; Martin J Pickney, residence Baton Rouge, LA, passed away on 3 May 2021. Where did this groups Martin live.

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B. Henry


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

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My research results based on Tamar¡¯s information:

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Martin D(upre?) Pickney resides at 1120 Lake Shore Place, Naples Florida 34103. He is 73 years old and apparently still alive. He also has used the last name ¡°Pinckney¡±.? No phone number available; White Pages will provide multiple possible numbers, including cell numbers, for a fee. An Engineering License in the name of Martin Pinckney associated with American Engineering Consultants (AEC), 573 Bald Eagle Drive, Marco Island, Florida 34145, expired 28 Feb 2021. Phone number for AEC is 239-394-1697. They may be willing to help locate Martin.

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B. Henry

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From: Tamra <tamrabrogdon@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 8:37 AM
To: William O. Henry <whenry5@...>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

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My memory says Florida...
Search Martin Florida...

The Search results confirms Florida is correct... but I am worried...I hope someone can find him.
As anyone in the group of closer proximity, I'm only finding one Martin P business contact at Marco Island....

I am a co-owner of a couple of Groups.io and our largest group has multiple owners so there are no succession issues
if I have an early exit stage left...

I do hope the owners of our Unimat group will choose other member to moderate and a potential owner,?
as it would be terrible lose the history of the group's posts.

Tamra


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

You're going to have to spell it out for us, as GIO obfuscates email addresses. My email address is wmrmeyers (at) yahoo (dot) com or wmrmeyers@...?which is showing as a proper email address and is a link on my screen right now. We'll see what it looks like when sent here in a moment.

Bill in OKC


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

His Paypal contact information has his name spelled -?Martin Pinckney.
?Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

I did a search in my Paypal, It was Martin Pinckney at?mdupreno1@...? on November 2 2020.
?Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 8:34 am
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

?Who was it that we sent the PayPal money to last year??
?Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: William O. Henry <whenry5@...>
To: [email protected]; wmrmeyers@...
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 8:09 am
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

This may not go through as I don¡¯t recall having posted to this group in the past. A search for Martin Pickney turned up 10 people by that name in the USA. One is recently deceased; Martin J Pickney, residence Baton Rouge, LA, passed away on 3 May 2021. Where did this groups Martin live.
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B. Henry


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

I did a search in my Paypal, It was Martin Pinckney at?mdupreno1@...? on November 2 2020.
?Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 8:34 am
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

?Who was it that we sent the PayPal money to last year??
?Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: William O. Henry <whenry5@...>
To: [email protected]; wmrmeyers@...
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 8:09 am
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

This may not go through as I don¡¯t recall having posted to this group in the past. A search for Martin Pickney turned up 10 people by that name in the USA. One is recently deceased; Martin J Pickney, residence Baton Rouge, LA, passed away on 3 May 2021. Where did this groups Martin live.
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B. Henry


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

That was Martin Pickney. Do you still have his email address? I don't. Even checked my paypal account.?

Bill in OKC


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

My memory says Florida...
Search Martin Florida...

The Search results confirms Florida is correct... but I am worried...I hope someone can find him.
As anyone in the group of closer proximity, I'm only finding one Martin P business contact at Marco Island....

I am a co-owner of a couple of Groups.io and our largest group has multiple owners so there are no succession issues
if I have an early exit stage left...

I do hope the owners of our Unimat group will choose other member to moderate and a potential owner,?
as it would be terrible lose the history of the group's posts.

Tamra


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

?Who was it that we sent the PayPal money to last year??
?Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: William O. Henry <whenry5@...>
To: [email protected]; wmrmeyers@...
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 8:09 am
Subject: Re: [Unimat] How to contact Group Owner?

This may not go through as I don¡¯t recall having posted to this group in the past. A search for Martin Pickney turned up 10 people by that name in the USA. One is recently deceased; Martin J Pickney, residence Baton Rouge, LA, passed away on 3 May 2021. Where did this groups Martin live.
?
B. Henry


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

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This may not go through as I don¡¯t recall having posted to this group in the past. A search for Martin Pickney turned up 10 people by that name in the USA. One is recently deceased; Martin J Pickney, residence Baton Rouge, LA, passed away on 3 May 2021. Where did this groups Martin live.

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B. Henry


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 03:10 AM, Kevin Groenke @ PersonMakeObject wrote:
Ok, I posted the following to the Group Managers Forum and to the GIO support email. Fingers crossed.
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hello GIO owners!

A group I am a member of but not an owner of seems to have lost the two owners that current members are aware of.
/g/Unimat

Emails to [email protected] are going unanswered and new member contributions are not getting moderated.

I have looked for resolutions for such abandoned groups but have not found any process for addressing this matter.

Any help is greatly appreciated as there is a bunch of great information archived in the group and many members willing to assume administrative responsibilities.

best regards
-k.groenke
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Here is a response on Group Managers forum to a recent query about a similarly orphaned group.
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Randy,

Is there any way to have the group transferred to me as the
owner.
There is no established procedure for making a new owner of a group. It is incumbent on the group's creator to promote additional owners, or risk that the group will become orphaned in the event of their own incapacity.

If there was only one owner, and that person cannot be reached, then your options are very limited. If there is a possibility of another owner existing, or a moderator with more permissions than you have, you might try sending an email to the group's +owner address a time or two to see if you get any response.

Failing that, you can contact [email protected] and provide all the details in support of your request.

Shal
This is the sort of contact we need. If the worst comes to the worst would it be possible to transfer everything over to a new group, as was done to set this one up? Then we could make sure there are plenty of owners, or whatever is needed, to ensure continuity in future. The problem than would be shutting down the old group (this one) so that we didn't finish up with two running side by side.


Re: Martin appointed joint owner Unimat iO Group

 

I'm bumping this thread... I think this is when we converted to Groups.io... was that 2019?
Do we need to collect for our annual payment?

Tamra


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

Kevin Groenke @ PersonMakeObject
 

Ok, I posted the following to the Group Managers Forum and to the GIO support email. Fingers crossed.

hello GIO owners!

A group I am a member of but not an owner of seems to have lost the two owners that current members are aware of.
/g/Unimat

Emails to [email protected] are going unanswered and new member contributions are not getting moderated.

I have looked for resolutions for such abandoned groups but have not found any process for addressing this matter.

Any help is greatly appreciated as there is a bunch of great information archived in the group and many members willing to assume administrative responsibilities.

best regards
-k.groenke


Here is a response on Group Managers forum to a recent query about a similarly orphaned group.

Randy,

Is there any way to have the group transferred to me as the
owner.
There is no established procedure for making a new owner of a group. It is incumbent on the group's creator to promote additional owners, or risk that the group will become orphaned in the event of their own incapacity.

If there was only one owner, and that person cannot be reached, then your options are very limited. If there is a possibility of another owner existing, or a moderator with more permissions than you have, you might try sending an email to the group's +owner address a time or two to see if you get any response.

Failing that, you can contact [email protected] and provide all the details in support of your request.

Shal



Best Regards,
Kevin from PersonMakeObject

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On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:08 PM Kevin Groenke <groen004@...> wrote:
Old Toolmaker have you had any luck tracking down Martin Pickney?? Does anybody here know who Marcus is??

They seem to be the only owners and without them, I am afraid the group could be orphaned. I will dig deeper in GIO to see if I can ID a contact who might be able to help.

Kevin Groenke
human of planet earth

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 8:41 PM Keith S. Angus <keithsangus@...> wrote:
Well, I don't seem to be able to get any further forward than identifying that there is a problem and it is probably due to our Group Owner(s) not being currently active, for whatever reason. If someone who has more direct contact with Groups IO can raise the question of what to do next with them, we? might get somewhere. Obviously, if new members cannot participate fully the group will simply fade away.

When the great upheaval happened the MZ group I'm on struggled to transfer over, but then did by some of us contributing to the cost. The guy who actually did the work then put down the first twenty contributors (including me) as owners, or something like that. Now I know why.

I'm now up to four people who have tried to join in recent months and have found that their messages are not getting through because they are still being moderated. They all seem like reasonable people with something to contribute, and it is a pity they are not able to get more involved.

What can we do?


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

Kevin Groenke @ PersonMakeObject
 

Old Toolmaker have you had any luck tracking down Martin Pickney?? Does anybody here know who Marcus is??

They seem to be the only owners and without them, I am afraid the group could be orphaned. I will dig deeper in GIO to see if I can ID a contact who might be able to help.

Kevin Groenke
human of planet earth


On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 8:41 PM Keith S. Angus <keithsangus@...> wrote:
Well, I don't seem to be able to get any further forward than identifying that there is a problem and it is probably due to our Group Owner(s) not being currently active, for whatever reason. If someone who has more direct contact with Groups IO can raise the question of what to do next with them, we? might get somewhere. Obviously, if new members cannot participate fully the group will simply fade away.

When the great upheaval happened the MZ group I'm on struggled to transfer over, but then did by some of us contributing to the cost. The guy who actually did the work then put down the first twenty contributors (including me) as owners, or something like that. Now I know why.

I'm now up to four people who have tried to join in recent months and have found that their messages are not getting through because they are still being moderated. They all seem like reasonable people with something to contribute, and it is a pity they are not able to get more involved.

What can we do?


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

Well, I don't seem to be able to get any further forward than identifying that there is a problem and it is probably due to our Group Owner(s) not being currently active, for whatever reason. If someone who has more direct contact with Groups IO can raise the question of what to do next with them, we? might get somewhere. Obviously, if new members cannot participate fully the group will simply fade away.

When the great upheaval happened the MZ group I'm on struggled to transfer over, but then did by some of us contributing to the cost. The guy who actually did the work then put down the first twenty contributors (including me) as owners, or something like that. Now I know why.

I'm now up to four people who have tried to join in recent months and have found that their messages are not getting through because they are still being moderated. They all seem like reasonable people with something to contribute, and it is a pity they are not able to get more involved.

What can we do?


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

Yahoo now, AFAIK, is just a website reposting news from other sources. It's sometimes useful if a site is paywalled. Groups was utterly trashed.

We have now taken down all user content from the Yahoo Groups website. However, we will continue to accept users¡¯ requests for their data until January 31, 2020, and will ensure these have been fulfilled prior to deleting the data.

For additional support, users can email YahooGroupsEscalations@... and our team will troubleshoot any issues.

Apparently the mail system still works but I never used it.

Neil
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On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 7:11 AM Keith S. Angus <keithsangus@...> wrote:
The third may have given a clue: he is trying to use this group via the old Yahoo group. I don't know if that group even exists any more or how much access it gives to Groups IO. Groups.io Links:


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

I now have three contacts with the same problem. The third may have given a clue: he is trying to use this group via the old Yahoo group. I don't know if that group even exists any more or how much access it gives to Groups IO. I will look into this further with them. I think the simplest answer is for them to start again with this group and forget about Yahoo.

However, this does not explain why I got no reply when I emailed our Group Owner.


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

I didn't remember if this group was still a free group, or upgraded to Premium. Did a very quick search of messages, and It was upgraded, and Martin is one of the co-owners. Unless one or more of them turned off their group messages, or changed email address, all co-owners & possibly moderators should be getting the owners emails. And sooner or later, GIO is going to want to be paid again.

I think I'm going to do a Role Call of my groups, and make sure everyone is alive and responding. I was a member of several of James W. Early's MLXXXXXXX mini-lathe groups back in the Yahoo days when he passed away unexpectedly. There were no other owners, and no moderators with elevated privileges, Yahoo was not at all helpful, and the groups eventually died, too. We all lost a lot of good info, as well as a good friend and great resource.

I'd hate to see that happen here, though having had multiple medical problems with my wife and self in the past 13 years that I've been active on Yahoo and Groups.io, I can certainly understand how such things can happen.?

Bill in OKC


Re: How to contact Group Owner?

 

I'm not an owner or moderator of this group, but am designated to be able to post anytime. Got a "P" icon next to my name in the list of members. I don't have any access to any of the admin functions. I'm pretty much constantly logged into GIO since I co-own or moderate several other groups. I'd be willing to moderate if you folks can find one of the owners or moderators able to set those privileges, as I'm in and out of GIO constantly looking at my own groups. I'm a co-owner on Metal-Shapers-and-Planers, Mini-Lathes, Mini-Mills, 4x6bandsaw, Miniature-Machine-Tools, and 3D-Printing-for-Metal-Hobbyists, and moderate on atlas-craftsman, multimachine, and southbendmanual groups.?

I do not have a Unimat of any sort, despite wanting one and looking for one for a long time, so I don't post much here, and if I found one now, I'd have a hard time finding space for it, despite how small they are! Though I'd try! ;) I do currently have 4 other lathes, and 3 milling machines, if you count the 3-in-1 machine as one of each. If anyone has a Unimat that they'd want to trade for an HF 7x10 mini-lathe, fairly well equipped, I could be talked into it, probably. :)

Bill in OKC

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