You're going to have to separate out the components of the email address, as this group has setting set to prevent members from seeing the full email address. Or not, as it is intended to protect people's IRL identity.? Just because I'm willing to share mine doesn't mean Martin feels the same way.?

I'm going to call the number B. Henry found, and see if they'll talk to me, and/or pass a message to Martin. I will report back once I have something to report.?

Bill in OKC

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You're going to have to spell it out for us, as GIO obfuscates email addresses. My email address is wmrmeyers (at) yahoo (dot) com or wmrmeyers@...?which is showing as a proper email address and is a link on my screen right now. We'll see what it looks like when sent here in a moment.

Bill in OKC

That was Martin Pickney. Do you still have his email address? I don't. Even checked my paypal account.?

Bill in OKC

My memory says Florida...
Search Martin Florida...

The Search results confirms Florida is correct... but I am worried...I hope someone can find him.
As anyone in the group of closer proximity, I'm only finding one Martin P business contact at Marco Island....

I am a co-owner of a couple of Groups.io and our largest group has multiple owners so there are no succession issues
if I have an early exit stage left...

I do hope the owners of our Unimat group will choose other member to moderate and a potential owner,?
as it would be terrible lose the history of the group's posts.

Tamra

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On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 03:10 AM, Kevin Groenke @ PersonMakeObject wrote:

Ok, I posted the following to the Group Managers Forum and to the GIO support email. Fingers crossed.

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hello GIO owners!

A group I am a member of but not an owner of seems to have lost the two owners that current members are aware of.
/g/Unimat

Emails to [email protected] are going unanswered and new member contributions are not getting moderated.

I have looked for resolutions for such abandoned groups but have not found any process for addressing this matter.

Any help is greatly appreciated as there is a bunch of great information archived in the group and many members willing to assume administrative responsibilities.

best regards
-k.groenke

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Here is a response on Group Managers forum to a recent query about a similarly orphaned group.

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Randy,

Is there any way to have the group transferred to me as the
owner.

There is no established procedure for making a new owner of a group. It is incumbent on the group's creator to promote additional owners, or risk that the group will become orphaned in the event of their own incapacity.

If there was only one owner, and that person cannot be reached, then your options are very limited. If there is a possibility of another owner existing, or a moderator with more permissions than you have, you might try sending an email to the group's +owner address a time or two to see if you get any response.

Failing that, you can contact [email protected] and provide all the details in support of your request.

Shal

This is the sort of contact we need. If the worst comes to the worst would it be possible to transfer everything over to a new group, as was done to set this one up? Then we could make sure there are plenty of owners, or whatever is needed, to ensure continuity in future. The problem than would be shutting down the old group (this one) so that we didn't finish up with two running side by side.

I'm bumping this thread... I think this is when we converted to Groups.io... was that 2019?
Do we need to collect for our annual payment?

Tamra

Well, I don't seem to be able to get any further forward than identifying that there is a problem and it is probably due to our Group Owner(s) not being currently active, for whatever reason. If someone who has more direct contact with Groups IO can raise the question of what to do next with them, we? might get somewhere. Obviously, if new members cannot participate fully the group will simply fade away.

When the great upheaval happened the MZ group I'm on struggled to transfer over, but then did by some of us contributing to the cost. The guy who actually did the work then put down the first twenty contributors (including me) as owners, or something like that. Now I know why.

I'm now up to four people who have tried to join in recent months and have found that their messages are not getting through because they are still being moderated. They all seem like reasonable people with something to contribute, and it is a pity they are not able to get more involved.

What can we do?

I now have three contacts with the same problem. The third may have given a clue: he is trying to use this group via the old Yahoo group. I don't know if that group even exists any more or how much access it gives to Groups IO. I will look into this further with them. I think the simplest answer is for them to start again with this group and forget about Yahoo.

However, this does not explain why I got no reply when I emailed our Group Owner.

I didn't remember if this group was still a free group, or upgraded to Premium. Did a very quick search of messages, and It was upgraded, and Martin is one of the co-owners. Unless one or more of them turned off their group messages, or changed email address, all co-owners & possibly moderators should be getting the owners emails. And sooner or later, GIO is going to want to be paid again.

I think I'm going to do a Role Call of my groups, and make sure everyone is alive and responding. I was a member of several of James W. Early's MLXXXXXXX mini-lathe groups back in the Yahoo days when he passed away unexpectedly. There were no other owners, and no moderators with elevated privileges, Yahoo was not at all helpful, and the groups eventually died, too. We all lost a lot of good info, as well as a good friend and great resource.

I'd hate to see that happen here, though having had multiple medical problems with my wife and self in the past 13 years that I've been active on Yahoo and Groups.io, I can certainly understand how such things can happen.?

Bill in OKC

I'm not an owner or moderator of this group, but am designated to be able to post anytime. Got a "P" icon next to my name in the list of members. I don't have any access to any of the admin functions. I'm pretty much constantly logged into GIO since I co-own or moderate several other groups. I'd be willing to moderate if you folks can find one of the owners or moderators able to set those privileges, as I'm in and out of GIO constantly looking at my own groups. I'm a co-owner on Metal-Shapers-and-Planers, Mini-Lathes, Mini-Mills, 4x6bandsaw, Miniature-Machine-Tools, and 3D-Printing-for-Metal-Hobbyists, and moderate on atlas-craftsman, multimachine, and southbendmanual groups.?

I do not have a Unimat of any sort, despite wanting one and looking for one for a long time, so I don't post much here, and if I found one now, I'd have a hard time finding space for it, despite how small they are! Though I'd try! ;) I do currently have 4 other lathes, and 3 milling machines, if you count the 3-in-1 machine as one of each. If anyone has a Unimat that they'd want to trade for an HF 7x10 mini-lathe, fairly well equipped, I could be talked into it, probably. :)

Bill in OKC

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