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Re: Unimat PC motor
Bill Williams
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý??? ??? Keith, I share your frustration in trying to get data on
the R/C model motors. They seem to operate in some non SI
universe. Should you succeed in ferreting out the specs please
share it.? Baffled Bill in Boulder! On 3/1/20 11:39 AM, Keith S. Angus via
Groups.Io wrote:
I intend to replace the motor on mine soon. I searched for a long time before I came to the conclusion you can't get a more powerful motor that fits in the hole for the original one, unless you go to RC model motors. They claim phenomenal power in a small space, but don't last long. However, in this application they would run well below rated power, so they might last a bit longer. I have never been able to get enough information on a possible motor and a driver all together to know what to buy. It's a bit frustrating as the RC crowd work in strange units, of LIPO cells and Kv figures. Some proper data on power, current, torque and voltage would be useful, preferably with some performance curves. |
Re: Unimat PC motor
yes its a unimat 3, i have had it from new back in the 1970's its been loved and used then sat for years and is now back being loved and used.
------ Original Message ------
From: lesorton@...
To: "Peter ashby" <aescinga.pgen@...>; [email protected]
Sent: 01/03/2020 18:56:13
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat PC motor Hi Peter. |
Re: Unimat PC motor
I intend to replace the motor on mine soon. I searched for a long time before I came to the conclusion you can't get a more powerful motor that fits in the hole for the original one, unless you go to RC model motors. They claim phenomenal power in a small space, but don't last long. However, in this application they would run well below rated power, so they might last a bit longer. I have never been able to get enough information on a possible motor and a driver all together to know what to buy. It's a bit frustrating as the RC crowd work in strange units, of LIPO cells and Kv figures. Some proper data on power, current, torque and voltage would be useful, preferably with some performance curves.
I have got a powerful brushless DC motor and driver that should eat the job, but it will need to be fitted outside the casing, roughly where the power supply is at the moment. That will mean redoing the belts. I will make pulleys for plain belts, as the toothed belts are so noisy. I'm also looking to see if I can devise a proper back gear for low speeds. I used to work with a mill that had it built into the final pulley, but that was a bit bigger than the Basic lathe. The motor runs up to 12000 revs, so I would gear it for that as the maximum speed. Allow for a 2:1 range on the speed control and have a second pulley for half speed, maybe another one after that, then back gear for really low revs. Then the aim is to put modern NC onto it. It might take a bit of doing - it might never get done! Keith |
Re: Unimat PC motor
no the motor i had was just fixed to the base board i have on the lathe, and then i joined a polyethelene belt to the right length.
------ Original Message ------
From: lesorton@...
To: "Peter ashby" <aescinga.pgen@...>; [email protected]
Sent: 01/03/2020 16:23:04
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat PC motor Thanks Peter. |
Re: Unimat PC motor
no great hassle to change out, you just need the 24V motor and a power supply, i added a speed controller too, then its just mount the motor (i mounted mine further away which gives me more room around the lathe) and make up a new belt to length.
------ Original Message ------
From: lesorton@...
Sent: 01/03/2020 14:58:41
Subject: [Unimat] Unimat PC motor Hi All |
Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
My experience with the main longitudinal leadscrew is, A) it is very mild steel, easily bent, B) being a tiny bit out of true does not affect operation, and C) I have successfully hand straightened, until, by trial and error, "good enough is good enough". C) certainly applies if the shipping charge is twice the cost of the part!
Martin P.
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Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
To pin down the bend, you need to turn it and dial indicate.? You can only tell so much with a visual inspection and a flat plate or straightedge.? And even when you find the exact bend, you may not be able to perfectly correct it.? Let's say I put the screw between 2 v-blocks on a milling machine table and press down a thousandth or two at a time.? Can it be made perfect?? You will likely always have a funny spot as you turn the screw to move the carriage, but it should not affect accuracy.? Again, why not just spend $25 and get on with enjoying your Unimat? On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 6:50 AM Toot <kallumjones@...> wrote: Thanks Jerry, |
Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
Per Lathe City specs: Lead screw M8-1.0 left hand.
() But it might be easier and cheaper to just buy a new lead screw. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unimat-DB-SL-Mini-Lathe-Lead-Screw-Ref-DB201-5/133336735349?hash=item1f0b7d1e75:g:8kIAAOSwfzJeSnQb http://www.tomstoolstore.com/unimat-leadscrew-key-no-4/ |
Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
?I like to cut to nuts in half. Two section go under the threaded rod and a third goes on top where you are applying pressure. This will stop you from deforming the threads.
?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Carl <carl.blum@...> To: Unimat <[email protected]>; aescinga.pgen <aescinga.pgen@...> Sent: Sat, Feb 29, 2020 11:00 am Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat SL lead screw not looking right Hi:
To straighten a shaft, roll it on a flat surface. You will know if it bumps. Then if you have an arbor press, put the shaft between two V blocks with hump high in the center. Press it gently down. At work we would put an indicator on the press. We would press just a bit more each time until the shaft was straight. Carl. Sent from my NOOK "Peter ashby via Groups.Io" <aescinga.pgen@...> wrote: I cant remember the thread size but it is a 1mm pitch left hand thread
------ Original Message ------
From: "Dave W" <fahrwud@...>
Sent: 29/02/2020 14:56:39
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
The thread size doesn¡¯t spring to mind, but there may be a suitable thread file available. Just an example here:?http://thetoolshop.shoprw.com/Thread-File---Metric-P-19471.html |
Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
Why fool around with this when you can buy a new lead screw from Tom's Tool Store for $25?? Keep the old damaged one as a spare.? Regarding straightening, the most accurate way that I have found is to the hold it in a bigger lathe, turn by hand and use an indicator, then move an inch or two, indicate again, etc.? If you want to try the glass plate method, mark the screw so you can turn 90 deg at a time, and keep sliding .002 shim under it to test.? For clearing a section of thread, take a tool bit used for screw thread cutting, and scrape through the affected threads by hand with magnifying glass. |
Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
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To straighten a shaft, roll it on a flat surface. You will know if it bumps. Then if you have an arbor press, put the shaft between two V blocks with hump high in the center. Press it gently down. At work we would put an indicator on the press. We would press just a bit more each time until the shaft was straight. Carl. Sent from my NOOK "Peter ashby via Groups.Io" <aescinga.pgen@...> wrote: I cant remember the thread size but it is a 1mm pitch left hand thread
------ Original Message ------
From: "Dave W" <fahrwud@...>
Sent: 29/02/2020 14:56:39
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat SL lead screw not looking right The thread size doesn¡¯t spring to mind, but there may be a suitable thread file available. Just an example here:? |
Re: Unimat SL lead screw not looking right
I cant remember the thread size but it is a 1mm pitch left hand thread
------ Original Message ------
From: "Dave W" <fahrwud@...>
Sent: 29/02/2020 14:56:39
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat SL lead screw not looking right The thread size doesn¡¯t spring to mind, but there may be a suitable thread file available. Just an example here:? |
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