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Re: any advice for first time milling with dovetail cutter ?

Harvey White
 

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:08:56 -0000, you wrote:

Hello,

I recently bought a dovetail cutter for my Unimat but
having never used something like this before, I want
to make sure I will not screw up and/or damage the tool.
(they are expensive !)

I was planning to just practice with something soft
like brass before I move on to aluminum. The dovetail
has a .5in base. I don't have a collet but I made a simple
end mill holder for it.

What is the best advice you can give me before I
turn on the switch on the Unimat?
For cutting an inside dovetail, one with the walls slanting in, about
the only way to cut it is to cut a slot for the shaft first, then use
the dovetail cutter.

For an outside dovetail, with the walls slanting out. I milled to the
outside dimensions first, then cut in very gradually.

I'd use a rigid setup, and I'd use that end mill holder you made.

For brass, well, brass is odd. Aluminum would be cheaper to work
with, and more predictable. Just use some cutting fluid to keep the
chips from gumming up the cutter and pressure welding.

I used one in steel to make an adjustable tool holder. Since the
inside slot was wider than the cutter, I got away with milling a slot
and taking the whole thing gently.


Harvey




thanks in advance,

Norm





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Re: Introduction

Harvey White
 

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:13:22 -0000, you wrote:

Yes, female hobbiest here. And that puts me in a second minority, I'm
guessing. :-)

My plan is to use this for miniature projects on softer woods and
metals. So it will be detailed but very small scale work. My
research has shown that this will probably do me quite well for my
current backlog of projects.

I'll hang around and read up on the grown-up models for a while and
see what's what. As long as I don't get too blatantly flamed for my
baby Unimat questions I think we'll all get along just fine.
Hmmm, I have a 7x lathe (Chinese made) and a unimat SL-1000. Although
the 7x is much larger than the unimat, they each have their places.
I've heard people say that neither lathe is worth anything because
it's not a (fill in blank name of expensive lathe here). I've also
heard people say that nothing can be made on either of them.

I've seen lots of proof to the contrary....

As long as it does the job for you, within whatever limitations it
has, then it's the best lathe for you... especially because you
already have it....

Welcome.

Harvey


Re: Introduction

Mert Baker
 

I have found rock maple, a very hard, dense close grained wood, to machine very nicely with the high speeds available on the Unis. Soft woods tend to tear & gum up. at the moment, I'm cutting the barrel channel on a full sized rifle stock on my Clausing miller, using regular endmills, and even with the much slower speeds available on the larger machine, the wood cuts very well.
Mert

mertbaker@...

----- Original Message -----
From: mrspost2u
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: [UNIMAT] Re: Introduction


Yes, female hobbiest here. And that puts me in a second minority, I'm
guessing. :-)

My plan is to use this for miniature projects on softer woods and
metals. So it will be detailed but very small scale work. My
research has shown that this will probably do me quite well for my
current backlog of projects.

I'll hang around and read up on the grown-up models for a while and
see what's what. As long as I don't get too blatantly flamed for my
baby Unimat questions I think we'll all get along just fine.


Re: any advice for first time milling with dovetail cutter ?

Mert Baker
 

To cut dovetail slots, first use an ordinary endmill to cut most of the metal away. Then cut the DT one side at a time. On the Uni, this is best done in small increments. Brass is easier to cut, as a rule, than some Al alloys, especially the soft gummy stuff found in hardware stores. On Al, be sure to use a cutting fluid. WD-40 works, and there are lots of others.
Mert

mertbaker@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Norm
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:08 PM
Subject: [UNIMAT] any advice for first time milling with dovetail cutter ?


Hello,

I recently bought a dovetail cutter for my Unimat but
having never used something like this before, I want
to make sure I will not screw up and/or damage the tool.
(they are expensive !)

I was planning to just practice with something soft
like brass before I move on to aluminum. The dovetail
has a .5in base. I don't have a collet but I made a simple
end mill holder for it.

What is the best advice you can give me before I
turn on the switch on the Unimat?

thanks in advance,

Norm


Filling in DB200/SL1000 lathe bed with lead

regulator3777
 

Hello all..I'm new to the group & have a question. Has anyone filled in
the lathe bed with lead to add weight & mass ? If so, how did it work-
out & was it worth doing ? "OJ"


any advice for first time milling with dovetail cutter ?

 

Hello,

I recently bought a dovetail cutter for my Unimat but
having never used something like this before, I want
to make sure I will not screw up and/or damage the tool.
(they are expensive !)

I was planning to just practice with something soft
like brass before I move on to aluminum. The dovetail
has a .5in base. I don't have a collet but I made a simple
end mill holder for it.

What is the best advice you can give me before I
turn on the switch on the Unimat?


thanks in advance,

Norm


Re: Introduction

mrspost2u
 

Yes, female hobbiest here. And that puts me in a second minority, I'm
guessing. :-)

My plan is to use this for miniature projects on softer woods and
metals. So it will be detailed but very small scale work. My
research has shown that this will probably do me quite well for my
current backlog of projects.

I'll hang around and read up on the grown-up models for a while and
see what's what. As long as I don't get too blatantly flamed for my
baby Unimat questions I think we'll all get along just fine.


Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

ransome michasiow
 

John,

The headstock and tailstock are threaded the same as the Unimat 3 so those accessories are the same.

My opinion and I read it somewhere that this is more of a training lathe and should not be used for heavy cutting.

I use the NON- CNC controlled lathe for light work Alum, Brass and it will work fine.

WhenI used the lathe on steel I overworked the motor and now it will slow up when load applied. Looking for a motor.

Have been trying to find out what is needed for the CNC version abut have been unable to hook up with anyone who actuals uses one and would share information.

I am looking for a motor and any spare parts for either the UNIMAT PC or Unimat Basic lathe. Would buy a complete setup.

Ransome

jst5000can <john.strupat@...> wrote:
Hi,

I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any comments on
the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one up locally but don't see
much information anywhere as to support and spare parts, etc.

I could use some help on deciding if this generally is worth
purchasing and if any particular features should be checked out in
advance.

Thanks,

John Strupat

London, ON
CANADA






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Re: Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000

Mert Baker
 

Thank you for them kind words!
Mert

mertbaker@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Clayton Bonser
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [UNIMAT] Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000


Hey Mert,
Brilliant post. Never a truer word said.

Clay.

On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 10:50 -0500, Mert Baker wrote:
> I would point out that the way one gets experience is to do the work.
> You can find material in the trash beside the road if you don't have
> the money to just go & buy it. That is where I got mine at first. I
> still have the boring bar holder I made from an axle stub that broke
> off a hay baler. Found it in the road when I was walking to school.
> Tools. He already has the lathe, but he does need a grinder & some
> toolbit blanks.
> Now, it is necessary to point out that anything you have never done, &
> don't know how to do, is impossible of accomplishment. That is, until
> you take your courage in both hands, and try & do it. generally you
> find that not only can you do it, but you can easily do it again. Thus
> the impossible becomes mundane, and learning has taken place. The hard
> thing for most humans to realize is that nearly anything they can
> imagine, they can do.
> Mert
>
> mertbaker@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ransome michasiow
> To: UNIMAT@...
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [UNIMAT] Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000
>
> Tim,
>
> Check out littlemachineshop.com
>
> 2487 Quick Change Tool Post Set for Unimat 3 & 4
> $87.50
>
> 1 for parting-off, 2 tool posts, 1 for boring bar.
>
> One just sold on ebay for I think $165.00 because people do not shop
> around.
>
> May fit the SL-1000, see their website and ask questions.
>
> Ransome
>
> Tim <sgt_tim1@...> wrote:
> I am in need of an Adjustable Tool Post.
>
> I don't have the experience, material, or tools to make one on my own
> nor do I want to try.
>
> Fishing for one on Ebay is starving me to death.
>
> Does anyone know of a person, place, or website that sells after
> market adjustable tool posts that will fit the Unimat SL-1000?
>
> I would appreciate any advise or direction.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

Harvey White
 

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:14:02 -0000, you wrote:

Hi,

I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any comments on
the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one up locally but don't see
much information anywhere as to support and spare parts, etc.

I could use some help on deciding if this generally is worth
purchasing and if any particular features should be checked out in
advance.
I don't have one, but from what I understand, you'd do well to check
that it has the software, and if so, what environment it runs in, and
what kinds of files it will take.

Hardware aside, you'd have to write your own software to make it work
if you didn't have the stuff.

Harvey



Thanks,


John Strupat

London, ON
CANADA




Re: Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000

Clayton Bonser
 

Hey Mert,
Brilliant post. Never a truer word said.

Clay.

On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 10:50 -0500, Mert Baker wrote:
I would point out that the way one gets experience is to do the work.
You can find material in the trash beside the road if you don't have
the money to just go & buy it. That is where I got mine at first. I
still have the boring bar holder I made from an axle stub that broke
off a hay baler. Found it in the road when I was walking to school.
Tools. He already has the lathe, but he does need a grinder & some
toolbit blanks.
Now, it is necessary to point out that anything you have never done, &
don't know how to do, is impossible of accomplishment. That is, until
you take your courage in both hands, and try & do it. generally you
find that not only can you do it, but you can easily do it again. Thus
the impossible becomes mundane, and learning has taken place. The hard
thing for most humans to realize is that nearly anything they can
imagine, they can do.
Mert

mertbaker@...
----- Original Message -----
From: ransome michasiow
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [UNIMAT] Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000

Tim,

Check out littlemachineshop.com

2487 Quick Change Tool Post Set for Unimat 3 & 4
$87.50

1 for parting-off, 2 tool posts, 1 for boring bar.

One just sold on ebay for I think $165.00 because people do not shop
around.

May fit the SL-1000, see their website and ask questions.

Ransome

Tim <sgt_tim1@...> wrote:
I am in need of an Adjustable Tool Post.

I don't have the experience, material, or tools to make one on my own
nor do I want to try.

Fishing for one on Ebay is starving me to death.

Does anyone know of a person, place, or website that sells after
market adjustable tool posts that will fit the Unimat SL-1000?

I would appreciate any advise or direction.

Thanks

Tim

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Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

Mert Baker
 

Just what I needed. I haven't been keeping track of the Unis since I got the 7x10.
Mert

mertbaker@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Art
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: [UNIMAT] Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?



Hi Mert

The best link to pic's and info on the
Unimat Basic and PC is at Tony's
www.lathes.co.uk site at the following.



Regards
Art

--- In UNIMAT@..., "Mert Baker" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Unimat DB200 that I've used for 50 years at least.
> I have never heard of a Unimat PC. Can you post a link or
> perhaps a picture?
> Mert
>
> mertbaker@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jst5000can
> To: UNIMAT@...
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:14 PM
> Subject: [UNIMAT] Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any
> comments on the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one
> up locally but don't see much information anywhere as to
> support and spare parts, etc.>
> I could use some help on deciding if this generally is
> worth purchasing and if any particular features should
> be checked out in advance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Strupat
> London, ON
> CANADA
>


Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

 

Hi John

I have a Unimat PC that I have been using for to produce hobby items that I sell. It is a nice small lathe even if not used in PC mode. Parts are hard to get but they can be had. I purchased two more Unimat PC's on e-bay to have spare parts. The hard thing to find is the controller board that fits in a computer to run the lathe in CNC mode. Make sure the boars that comes with he lathe you are buying is working. The software is available but it works best in an older AT type computer. It dosn't work in a new computer. Lots of help is available on this board.

Regards
Bob

BTW If you don't buy the lathe, let me know. I can always use more parts. Especially the controller board...


To: UNIMAT@...: john.strupat@...: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:14:02 +0000Subject: [UNIMAT] Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?




Hi,I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any comments on the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one up locally but don't see much information anywhere as to support and spare parts, etc.I could use some help on deciding if this generally is worth purchasing and if any particular features should be checked out in advance.Thanks,John StrupatLondon, ON CANADA


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Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

 

Hi Mert

The best link to pic's and info on the
Unimat Basic and PC is at Tony's
www.lathes.co.uk site at the following.



Regards
Art

--- In UNIMAT@..., "Mert Baker" <mertbaker@...> wrote:

I have a Unimat DB200 that I've used for 50 years at least.
I have never heard of a Unimat PC. Can you post a link or
perhaps a picture?
Mert

mertbaker@...
----- Original Message -----
From: jst5000can
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: [UNIMAT] Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?


Hi,

I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any
comments on the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one
up locally but don't see much information anywhere as to
support and spare parts, etc.>
I could use some help on deciding if this generally is
worth purchasing and if any particular features should
be checked out in advance.

Thanks,

John Strupat
London, ON
CANADA


Re: Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

Mert Baker
 

I have a Unimat DB200 that I've used for 50 years at least. I have never heard of a Unimat PC. Can you post a link or perhaps a picture?
Mert

mertbaker@...

----- Original Message -----
From: jst5000can
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: [UNIMAT] Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?


Hi,

I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any comments on
the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one up locally but don't see
much information anywhere as to support and spare parts, etc.

I could use some help on deciding if this generally is worth
purchasing and if any particular features should be checked out in
advance.

Thanks,

John Strupat

London, ON
CANADA


Unimat PC - any experiences or comments?

jst5000can
 

Hi,

I'm a new member to this group and would appreciate any comments on
the Unimat PC. I have a chance to pick one up locally but don't see
much information anywhere as to support and spare parts, etc.

I could use some help on deciding if this generally is worth
purchasing and if any particular features should be checked out in
advance.

Thanks,


John Strupat

London, ON
CANADA


Re: Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000

J E TOBEY
 

Little Machine Shop sells the A2Z QCTP set I recommended. It has the toolholders as described. They do not have a model especially for the SL/DB series Unimat. That is why I called the owner of A2Z and got the suggestion to select the Atlas one like I already had. As I stated earlier, I had moved my A2Z set up from my Atlas to my SL, sockethead capscrew and all. I had 1/4- 20 T nuts for my UNI SL already, so it was a 45 second job to set it up on the cross-slide. I use 3/8 indexable tooling on my Atlas and on my UNI. They make for limited flex, even if extended a bit away from the support of the toolholder. I have 3 UNI's,a DB and two SL's. I would not hesitate to equip all three with the A2Z product. I have about 15 toolholders for the toolposts in several variations and keep them set up with 3/8 and 1/2 boring bars, and straight,right and left turning, and also facing tools. adjusting for centerline is a snap and they hold adjustment well. By the way, I am just a satisfied customer- no connection to A2Z. I did look at Mert's in the files, and have no doubt that it,too, would be accurate and effective.Regards,JET

I am in need of an Adjustable Tool Post.

I don't have the experience, material, or tools to make one on my own
nor do I want to try.

Fishing for one on Ebay is starving me to death.

Does anyone know of a person, place, or website that sells after
market adjustable tool posts that will fit the Unimat SL-1000?

I would appreciate any advise or direction.

Thanks

Tim






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Re: Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000

Mert Baker
 

I would point out that the way one gets experience is to do the work. You can find material in the trash beside the road if you don't have the money to just go & buy it. That is where I got mine at first. I still have the boring bar holder I made from an axle stub that broke off a hay baler. Found it in the road when I was walking to school. Tools. He already has the lathe, but he does need a grinder & some toolbit blanks.
Now, it is necessary to point out that anything you have never done, & don't know how to do, is impossible of accomplishment. That is, until you take your courage in both hands, and try & do it. generally you find that not only can you do it, but you can easily do it again. Thus the impossible becomes mundane, and learning has taken place. The hard thing for most humans to realize is that nearly anything they can imagine, they can do.
Mert

mertbaker@...

----- Original Message -----
From: ransome michasiow
To: UNIMAT@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [UNIMAT] Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000


Tim,

Check out littlemachineshop.com


2487 Quick Change Tool Post Set for Unimat 3 & 4
$87.50

1 for parting-off, 2 tool posts, 1 for boring bar.

One just sold on ebay for I think $165.00 because people do not shop around.

May fit the SL-1000, see their website and ask questions.


Ransome

Tim <sgt_tim1@...> wrote:
I am in need of an Adjustable Tool Post.

I don't have the experience, material, or tools to make one on my own
nor do I want to try.

Fishing for one on Ebay is starving me to death.

Does anyone know of a person, place, or website that sells after
market adjustable tool posts that will fit the Unimat SL-1000?

I would appreciate any advise or direction.

Thanks

Tim

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Re: Adjustable Tool Post for the Unimat SL-1000

ransome michasiow
 

Tim,

Check out littlemachineshop.com


2487 Quick Change Tool Post Set for Unimat 3 & 4
$87.50

1 for parting-off, 2 tool posts, 1 for boring bar.

One just sold on ebay for I think $165.00 because people do not shop around.

May fit the SL-1000, see their website and ask questions.


Ransome


Tim <sgt_tim1@...> wrote:
I am in need of an Adjustable Tool Post.

I don't have the experience, material, or tools to make one on my own
nor do I want to try.

Fishing for one on Ebay is starving me to death.

Does anyone know of a person, place, or website that sells after
market adjustable tool posts that will fit the Unimat SL-1000?

I would appreciate any advise or direction.

Thanks

Tim






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Re: Introduction

Paul Boyd
 

mrspost2u said the following on 24/01/2007 03:38:
I'm the proud owner of a Unimat Classic (as of this Christmas) and
haven't had much of a chance to play with it yet.
I've seen that a lot of this board deals with the beefier models. Am
I going to be in the minority here with my Classic?
I think you will be in the minority. I used to have one of these (before it was called Classic), and it did at least get me started, and helped me re-learn what I learnt at school 25 years ago, when we used big Myfords and Harrisons!

You will probably find its limits quite early, but it is possible to produce good stuff - it just takes longer. The basic techniques are all much the same though.

Enjoy!

--
Paul Boyd