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Re: end mill holder

 

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looks like 13mm for 14x1

Best Regards
John



On Sep 5, 2023, at 7:54 PM, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:

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No offense taken, guys. I am just sharing information from standardized reference tables.?

The reality is that you could have a looser tap drill hole. You may just need to engage an additional thread to compensate for the looser fit and diminished contact area.?

Standardized tables only suggest the optimal dimensions. If you can live with a lesser fit and contact area for your application, there is nothing wrong with going that?route.

As for the collet chucks, with Chinese products it is always a craps shoot. Sometimes you get hardened and ground goods that are as good as western products, and other times you get chucks made out of cheese that you could thread with a toothpick. I have had both experiences and I can't tell how to get one or the other. Seems it is like Schroedinger's cat: the chuck is good until it is not????

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:47 PM
To: Carl <carl.blum@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
Hi Carl, it was one of those collet chucks that Andrei showed… I just gave up and will make a brass collet holder (when I have finished the U3 threading attachment - one thing leads to another!) to use with a purchased (and accurate!) front chuck piece.

We must have been typing at the same time - Andrei, no offense intended in my message but (like Carl) I had heard that for a metric thread the minimum pilot hole was the thread size minus the pitch. I guess that is just a general rule of thumb.


Re: end mill holder

Andrei
 

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No offense taken, guys. I am just sharing information from standardized reference tables.?

The reality is that you could have a looser tap drill hole. You may just need to engage an additional thread to compensate for the looser fit and diminished contact area.?

Standardized tables only suggest the optimal dimensions. If you can live with a lesser fit and contact area for your application, there is nothing wrong with going that?route.

As for the collet chucks, with Chinese products it is always a craps shoot. Sometimes you get hardened and ground goods that are as good as western products, and other times you get chucks made out of cheese that you could thread with a toothpick. I have had both experiences and I can't tell how to get one or the other. Seems it is like Schroedinger's cat: the chuck is good until it is not????


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Brooks <peter@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:47 PM
To: Carl <carl.blum@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
Hi Carl, it was one of those collet chucks that Andrei showed… I just gave up and will make a brass collet holder (when I have finished the U3 threading attachment - one thing leads to another!) to use with a purchased (and accurate!) front chuck piece.

We must have been typing at the same time - Andrei, no offense intended in my message but (like Carl) I had heard that for a metric thread the minimum pilot hole was the thread size minus the pitch. I guess that is just a general rule of thumb.


Re: How many Unimats is too many?

 

Only if you have a whole lathe's worth of parts! ;)?

Atlas TH42 (working!!!) South Bend heavy 10L (restoration project in multiple piles) Smithy CB-1220XL 3-in-1 (same as SB) DB200 Unimat (more or less complete in box) SL-1000 (in pieces awaiting reassembly)?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:45:56 PM CDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:


Wow, I feel inadequate now, I only have 4 lathes! (Unimat, Logan, Clausing & a wood lathe). Do parts for a Schaublin count?

-Dave



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:22:28 AM PDT, Aaron Woods <awoods550@...> wrote:


Glad to see I'm not the only one with the small lathe affliction. No Unimat (yet), but I think I'm at 9 lathes now ranging from a Sherline up to an 11" Logan.?


Re: end mill holder

 

Hi Carl, it was one of those collet chucks that Andrei showed… I just gave up and will make a brass collet holder (when I have finished the U3 threading attachment - one thing leads to another!) to use with a purchased (and accurate!) front chuck piece.

We must have been typing at the same time - Andrei, no offense intended in my message but (like Carl) I had heard that for a metric thread the minimum pilot hole was the thread size minus the pitch. I guess that is just a general rule of thumb.


Re: How many Unimats is too many?

 

Wow, I feel inadequate now, I only have 4 lathes! (Unimat, Logan, Clausing & a wood lathe). Do parts for a Schaublin count?

-Dave



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:22:28 AM PDT, Aaron Woods <awoods550@...> wrote:


Glad to see I'm not the only one with the small lathe affliction. No Unimat (yet), but I think I'm at 9 lathes now ranging from a Sherline up to an 11" Logan.?


Re: How many Unimats is too many?

 

Glad to see I'm not the only one with the small lathe affliction. No Unimat (yet), but I think I'm at 9 lathes now ranging from a Sherline up to an 11" Logan.?


Re: end mill holder

 

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Hi Peter:

I bought some steel that was too hard to saw. I built a big fire in the back yard and annealed it for hours. When it cooled I could cut it, but it was still tougher than mild steel.

You could heat the chuck to soften it, but it would be best to re harden it and touch up the ground surfaces.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 12:50 PM, Peter Brooks wrote:

I tried to bore out and thread one of these to M14 x 1 - on a Unimat 3 ! ?They are made of tough stuff. Wrecked an M14 tap, although I had bored it generously.

(BTW surely by definition the minimum tap drill for M14 x 1 would be 13mm? )


Re: end mill holder

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This chart is missing the M14x1mm which is 12.75mm

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrei <calciu1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 12:57:37 PM
To: Carl <carl.blum@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
Drill sizes for metric tapping




From: Carl <carl.blum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 12:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; calciu1@... <calciu1@...>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?

Hello:


I was told tap drills in metric are simple: screw size minus pitch, so M14 - 1mm = 13mm tap drill. 12.75 might be 100% thread, but not much stronger than 75%.


Carl.


On 9/5/2023 12:05 PM, Andrei wrote:
12.75 is the drill size for an M14 tap

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:56 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
I got one with a 8mm hole, ER-11, IIRC, with the intent to thread it M12x1 for my SL/DB machines. It's here somewhere! ;) IIRC, M14x1 needs a 13mm tap drill? I have a pair of very nice tungsten carbide 11mm tap drills for my M12x1 stuff. Works nicely on hardened steel, which most of those things are. For my ER-25 Collet holder that I "made" from one of the longer shank collet chucks, that was a hard skin, but the tap had no problem once the tapping hole was drilled. Made it pretty easy.?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)?


Re: end mill holder

Andrei
 

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Drill sizes for metric tapping




From: Carl <carl.blum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 12:49 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; calciu1@... <calciu1@...>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?

Hello:


I was told tap drills in metric are simple: screw size minus pitch, so M14 - 1mm = 13mm tap drill. 12.75 might be 100% thread, but not much stronger than 75%.


Carl.


On 9/5/2023 12:05 PM, Andrei wrote:
12.75 is the drill size for an M14 tap

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:56 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
I got one with a 8mm hole, ER-11, IIRC, with the intent to thread it M12x1 for my SL/DB machines. It's here somewhere! ;) IIRC, M14x1 needs a 13mm tap drill? I have a pair of very nice tungsten carbide 11mm tap drills for my M12x1 stuff. Works nicely on hardened steel, which most of those things are. For my ER-25 Collet holder that I "made" from one of the longer shank collet chucks, that was a hard skin, but the tap had no problem once the tapping hole was drilled. Made it pretty easy.?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)?


Re: end mill holder

 

I tried to bore out and thread one of these to M14 x 1 - on a Unimat 3 ! ?They are made of tough stuff. Wrecked an M14 tap, although I had bored it generously.

(BTW surely by definition the minimum tap drill for M14 x 1 would be 13mm? )


Re: end mill holder

 

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Hello:


I was told tap drills in metric are simple: screw size minus pitch, so M14 - 1mm = 13mm tap drill. 12.75 might be 100% thread, but not much stronger than 75%.


Carl.


On 9/5/2023 12:05 PM, Andrei wrote:

12.75 is the drill size for an M14 tap

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:56 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
I got one with a 8mm hole, ER-11, IIRC, with the intent to thread it M12x1 for my SL/DB machines. It's here somewhere! ;) IIRC, M14x1 needs a 13mm tap drill? I have a pair of very nice tungsten carbide 11mm tap drills for my M12x1 stuff. Works nicely on hardened steel, which most of those things are. For my ER-25 Collet holder that I "made" from one of the longer shank collet chucks, that was a hard skin, but the tap had no problem once the tapping hole was drilled. Made it pretty easy.?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)?


Re: end mill holder

 

Ah, I understand! Hey, at least you didn't have to single-point that thread!

I think my best by date was about 38 years ago. But I have seen folks who should know say things that scare me. I'm 68 now. My dad had his first heart attack at age 50. And only missed I think 1 year of having one every year until his death at age 77. I've still (as of this moment, anyway) not had my first heart attack. It is potentially possible that I'm good for another 20 or 30? or even 40 years. And there is one guy who thinks that folks that are alive now may live as long as 1000 years. Maybe if I live that long I'll actually get to be a good machinist...

I wouldn't put any money on it, though!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:12:31 AM CDT, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:


Yes I tapped the brass for the set screw, but I also cobbled the set screw together, not trivial on silver steel, which was the material closest to hand at the time. ?So I used a die for that - I die-ed it; fortunately the die won and the silver steel submitted! ?

(And yes, now ample opportunity to do cosmetic surgery on my knuckles if I use it carelessly! ?That’s okay though, I mean I broke two fingers severely, just falling down a 2 inch step soon after - I’m probably approaching my Best Before date.)


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:51, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

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Had to use a tap to thread the set screw hole. Possibly to thread the spindle end, too, though that can be single-point threaded if you have small enough tooling. IIRC dies are used to put external threads on a piece of material. Taps for internal threads. Unless he made his own set screw, that is. It could also be single-point threaded, but most likely threaded with a die in a home shop.?

I hesitate to say that no one single-point's small set screw holes, but I'm pretty sure it would be rare! Certainly beyond my skill levels!?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:27:53 AM CDT, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:


“Die-ing”, not “tapping”. Wrong gender, so easy to confuse nowadays.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:23, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:

? I’m a certified beginner. ?This was one of the first successful things I made.

<image0.jpeg>
<image1.jpeg>


Yes I know the set screw arrangement is ‘unusual’, but I made it by tapping some silver steel / drill rod.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:01, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@...> wrote:

?
? ? Mert offered partially-machined end mill holders.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:41?AM Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:

Hi Gang:

It is easy to drill and tap a drill chuck to fit Unimats, I've done it to chucks up to 1/2" capacity. I mostly use the 1/4" chuck converted in 1973.

While you can hold a milling cutter in a drill chuck, you will not come close to cutting capacity of the cutter. Most likely the cutter will move or even be ejected by cutting forces.

Much better is to make solid cutter holders from 3/4" bar stock. Drill and tap to match the spindle then bore for your cutter and add a set screw to clamp the cutter. I have 3/8" and 1/2" holders that work fine.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 7:43 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Or of course a drill chuck. Depends what you are trying to do and how accurate you need to be.

Drill chucks to fit M14 x 1 (Unimat 3 / 4) or M12 x 1 (earlier Unimats) are probably easier to find than collet chucks with those threadings.


Re: end mill holder

 

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Yes I tapped the brass for the set screw, but I also cobbled the set screw together, not trivial on silver steel, which was the material closest to hand at the time. ?So I used a die for that - I die-ed it; fortunately the die won and the silver steel submitted! ?

(And yes, now ample opportunity to do cosmetic surgery on my knuckles if I use it carelessly! ?That’s okay though, I mean I broke two fingers severely, just falling down a 2 inch step soon after - I’m probably approaching my Best Before date.)


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:51, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:

?
Had to use a tap to thread the set screw hole. Possibly to thread the spindle end, too, though that can be single-point threaded if you have small enough tooling. IIRC dies are used to put external threads on a piece of material. Taps for internal threads. Unless he made his own set screw, that is. It could also be single-point threaded, but most likely threaded with a die in a home shop.?

I hesitate to say that no one single-point's small set screw holes, but I'm pretty sure it would be rare! Certainly beyond my skill levels!?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:27:53 AM CDT, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:


“Die-ing”, not “tapping”. Wrong gender, so easy to confuse nowadays.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:23, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:

? I’m a certified beginner. ?This was one of the first successful things I made.

<image0.jpeg>
<image1.jpeg>


Yes I know the set screw arrangement is ‘unusual’, but I made it by tapping some silver steel / drill rod.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:01, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@...> wrote:

?
? ? Mert offered partially-machined end mill holders.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:41?AM Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:

Hi Gang:

It is easy to drill and tap a drill chuck to fit Unimats, I've done it to chucks up to 1/2" capacity. I mostly use the 1/4" chuck converted in 1973.

While you can hold a milling cutter in a drill chuck, you will not come close to cutting capacity of the cutter. Most likely the cutter will move or even be ejected by cutting forces.

Much better is to make solid cutter holders from 3/4" bar stock. Drill and tap to match the spindle then bore for your cutter and add a set screw to clamp the cutter. I have 3/8" and 1/2" holders that work fine.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 7:43 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Or of course a drill chuck. Depends what you are trying to do and how accurate you need to be.

Drill chucks to fit M14 x 1 (Unimat 3 / 4) or M12 x 1 (earlier Unimats) are probably easier to find than collet chucks with those threadings.


Re: end mill holder

 

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very nice!

Best Regards
John



On Sep 5, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:

?“Die-ing”, not “tapping”. Wrong gender, so easy to confuse nowadays.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:23, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:

?I’m a certified beginner. ?This was one of the first successful things I made.

<image0.jpeg>
<image1.jpeg>


Yes I know the set screw arrangement is ‘unusual’, but I made it by tapping some silver steel / drill rod.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:01, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@...> wrote:

?
? ? Mert offered partially-machined end mill holders.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:41?AM Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:

Hi Gang:

It is easy to drill and tap a drill chuck to fit Unimats, I've done it to chucks up to 1/2" capacity. I mostly use the 1/4" chuck converted in 1973.

While you can hold a milling cutter in a drill chuck, you will not come close to cutting capacity of the cutter. Most likely the cutter will move or even be ejected by cutting forces.

Much better is to make solid cutter holders from 3/4" bar stock. Drill and tap to match the spindle then bore for your cutter and add a set screw to clamp the cutter. I have 3/8" and 1/2" holders that work fine.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 7:43 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Or of course a drill chuck. Depends what you are trying to do and how accurate you need to be.

Drill chucks to fit M14 x 1 (Unimat 3 / 4) or M12 x 1 (earlier Unimats) are probably easier to find than collet chucks with those threadings.


Re: end mill holder

Andrei
 

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12.75 is the drill size for an M14 tap


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:56 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] end mill holder
?
I got one with a 8mm hole, ER-11, IIRC, with the intent to thread it M12x1 for my SL/DB machines. It's here somewhere! ;) IIRC, M14x1 needs a 13mm tap drill? I have a pair of very nice tungsten carbide 11mm tap drills for my M12x1 stuff. Works nicely on hardened steel, which most of those things are. For my ER-25 Collet holder that I "made" from one of the longer shank collet chucks, that was a hard skin, but the tap had no problem once the tapping hole was drilled. Made it pretty easy.?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:37:02 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


You could buy one of these for 10=15 dollars and then tap the end for 14x1mm and you are done:?
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for ER16 Collet Block Chuck Collet Holder Spindle Motor Shaft Clamping Tool Bar at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com


Re: end mill holder

 

I got one with a 8mm hole, ER-11, IIRC, with the intent to thread it M12x1 for my SL/DB machines. It's here somewhere! ;) IIRC, M14x1 needs a 13mm tap drill? I have a pair of very nice tungsten carbide 11mm tap drills for my M12x1 stuff. Works nicely on hardened steel, which most of those things are. For my ER-25 Collet holder that I "made" from one of the longer shank collet chucks, that was a hard skin, but the tap had no problem once the tapping hole was drilled. Made it pretty easy.?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:37:02 AM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


You could buy one of these for 10=15 dollars and then tap the end for 14x1mm and you are done:?
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for ER16 Collet Block Chuck Collet Holder Spindle Motor Shaft Clamping Tool Bar at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com


Re: end mill holder

 

Had to use a tap to thread the set screw hole. Possibly to thread the spindle end, too, though that can be single-point threaded if you have small enough tooling. IIRC dies are used to put external threads on a piece of material. Taps for internal threads. Unless he made his own set screw, that is. It could also be single-point threaded, but most likely threaded with a die in a home shop.?

I hesitate to say that no one single-point's small set screw holes, but I'm pretty sure it would be rare! Certainly beyond my skill levels!?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:27:53 AM CDT, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:


“Die-ing”, not “tapping”. Wrong gender, so easy to confuse nowadays.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:23, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:

? I’m a certified beginner. ?This was one of the first successful things I made.

<image0.jpeg>
<image1.jpeg>


Yes I know the set screw arrangement is ‘unusual’, but I made it by tapping some silver steel / drill rod.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:01, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@...> wrote:

?
? ? Mert offered partially-machined end mill holders.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:41?AM Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:

Hi Gang:

It is easy to drill and tap a drill chuck to fit Unimats, I've done it to chucks up to 1/2" capacity. I mostly use the 1/4" chuck converted in 1973.

While you can hold a milling cutter in a drill chuck, you will not come close to cutting capacity of the cutter. Most likely the cutter will move or even be ejected by cutting forces.

Much better is to make solid cutter holders from 3/4" bar stock. Drill and tap to match the spindle then bore for your cutter and add a set screw to clamp the cutter. I have 3/8" and 1/2" holders that work fine.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 7:43 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Or of course a drill chuck. Depends what you are trying to do and how accurate you need to be.

Drill chucks to fit M14 x 1 (Unimat 3 / 4) or M12 x 1 (earlier Unimats) are probably easier to find than collet chucks with those threadings.


Re: end mill holder

 

There is an old military maxim: If it's stupid, but it works, it ain't stupid!

Sure, you don't want to get your knuckles too close to it in use, but it works, right? That's all you need. And a regular 3-jaw chuck is also something you don't want to get your knuckles too close to! When you're not a beginner anymore, maybe you'll want to make one that you think is better, and it might well be better, but this one works! ;) Best is the enemy of good enough!

You could also try putting a shorter set/grub screw in it. ;) Might help, might not. ;)

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:23:15 AM CDT, Mehmood via groups.io <mehmood.naqshbandi@...> wrote:


I’m a certified beginner. ?This was one of the first successful things I made.

image0.jpegimage1.jpeg

Yes I know the set screw arrangement is ‘unusual’, but I made it by tapping some silver steel / drill rod.


On 5 Sep 2023, at 16:01, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@...> wrote:

?
? ? Mert offered partially-machined end mill holders.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:41?AM Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:

Hi Gang:

It is easy to drill and tap a drill chuck to fit Unimats, I've done it to chucks up to 1/2" capacity. I mostly use the 1/4" chuck converted in 1973.

While you can hold a milling cutter in a drill chuck, you will not come close to cutting capacity of the cutter. Most likely the cutter will move or even be ejected by cutting forces.

Much better is to make solid cutter holders from 3/4" bar stock. Drill and tap to match the spindle then bore for your cutter and add a set screw to clamp the cutter. I have 3/8" and 1/2" holders that work fine.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 7:43 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Or of course a drill chuck. Depends what you are trying to do and how accurate you need to be.

Drill chucks to fit M14 x 1 (Unimat 3 / 4) or M12 x 1 (earlier Unimats) are probably easier to find than collet chucks with those threadings.


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jjg tools on ebay.co.uk offers an er16 collet holder in 12x1 and 14x1?

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John



On Sep 5, 2023, at 5:01 PM, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@...> wrote:

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On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 9:41?AM Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:

Hi Gang:

It is easy to drill and tap a drill chuck to fit Unimats, I've done it to chucks up to 1/2" capacity. I mostly use the 1/4" chuck converted in 1973.

While you can hold a milling cutter in a drill chuck, you will not come close to cutting capacity of the cutter. Most likely the cutter will move or even be ejected by cutting forces.

Much better is to make solid cutter holders from 3/4" bar stock. Drill and tap to match the spindle then bore for your cutter and add a set screw to clamp the cutter. I have 3/8" and 1/2" holders that work fine.

Carl.

On 9/5/2023 7:43 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:

Or of course a drill chuck. Depends what you are trying to do and how accurate you need to be.

Drill chucks to fit M14 x 1 (Unimat 3 / 4) or M12 x 1 (earlier Unimats) are probably easier to find than collet chucks with those threadings.