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UI-VIEW .....Unproto problem ?

[email protected]
 

Hi All,

I have been running UI-VIEW for a few days, and all was OK, but I have now started to use the message & ping facility a lot more. However I have to report some strange effects.

1.When in QSO (Message) with a station via Ui-View my TNC UNPROTO gets reprogrammed with thier callsign ? If I reset it to CQ RELAY WIDE, after the first "ping" or "Message acknowlege" it changes again. I have viewed the TNC parameters with a terminal prog outside uiview and can confim that the change is for "real".

2.Also the station I am working will also then move location to be on top of my QTH !

I have seen this in both V06 & 07. My set-up is UIVIEW direct to TNC (Kantronics KPC2).The other station (M0AWB) is using TNC in Kiss mode,Sally and UIVIEW.I believe he uses BPQ, however I know that Tony is a member of this group, so may add his comments when he sees this posting. My Host mode in UIVIEW is set to none. I also tried DDE via WINPACK and still got the same effect.

Help please ?

Alan G8XLH
"Tony Boom" <[email protected]
 

I can confirm that when in contact (so to speak) with Alan via UI-View, that
a few odd things have happened.

I think I understand his Unproto problem and I am sure that it is just the
target call sign that is changing rather than the actual Unproto address
that his beacon is addressed to. I have no experience of TNC's other than in
Kiss with BPQ so his setup is alien to me.

I could be wrong as on a few occasions, after receiving frames from Alan, I
have instantly moved house from 3 miles north of Peterborough to 4 miles
South and appear to live in the flat above Alan. It is just as if the frames
being sent by Alan are reprogramming my Station Setup details, Lat/Long etc
so that my icon jumps instanltly on top of his one.

Strange but true.....Maybe one of the bugs that Roger speaks of?

Other than that, I love it. It's kept me up till gone 1am talking to people
live that I've only ever seen in my MH list before.


All the best.

Tony.

----- Original Message -----
From: <a.ralph@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: 09 April 1999 08:11
Subject: [ui-view] UI-VIEW .....Unproto problem ?
Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

In article <923641875.30699@...>, a.ralph@... writes
From: a.ralph@...

Hi All,

I have been running UI-VIEW for a few days, and all was OK, but I have now
started to use the message & ping facility a lot more. However I have to report
some strange effects.

1.When in QSO (Message) with a station via Ui-View my TNC UNPROTO gets
reprogrammed with thier callsign ? If I reset it to CQ RELAY WIDE, after the
first "ping" or "Message acknowlege" it changes again. I have viewed the TNC
parameters with a terminal prog outside uiview and can confim that the change
is
for "real".
Messages are sent as unproto frames addressed to the station with whom
you are communicating. To do that with a TNC in terminal mode means you
have to change the TNC UNPROTO setting according to what unproto address
you want to use.

You can get a problem if you're not using the station beacon in UI-View,
but are relying on the BTEXT in your TNC. In that case, the TNC BTEXT
will be sent to whatever UNPROTO UI-View last set. The solution is to
use UI-View's beacons because it will then disable the TNC beacon.

2.Also the station I am working will also then move location to be on top of my
QTH !
I'll have a look at that.

Host mode none is definitely a bit clunky, but it's the best that can be
done with a TNC in terminal mode. Try using host mode KISS, it's much
better than host mode none and the above problems will disappear. The
TNC will be put into KISS mode when the program starts and put back into
terminal mode when you close it.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

Alan Ralph
 

Thanks, I will try your suggestions

alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Barker [SMTP:roger@...]
Sent: 09 April 1999 11:38
To: ui-view@...
Subject: [ui-view] Re: UI-VIEW .....Unproto problem ?

From: Roger Barker <roger@...>

In article <923641875.30699@...>, a.ralph@... writes
From: a.ralph@...

Hi All,

I have been running UI-VIEW for a few days, and all was OK, but I have
now
started to use the message & ping facility a lot more. However I have to
report
some strange effects.

1.When in QSO (Message) with a station via Ui-View my TNC UNPROTO gets
reprogrammed with thier callsign ? If I reset it to CQ RELAY WIDE, after
the
first "ping" or "Message acknowlege" it changes again. I have viewed the
TNC
parameters with a terminal prog outside uiview and can confim that the
change
is
for "real".
Messages are sent as unproto frames addressed to the station with whom
you are communicating. To do that with a TNC in terminal mode means you
have to change the TNC UNPROTO setting according to what unproto address
you want to use.

You can get a problem if you're not using the station beacon in UI-View,
but are relying on the BTEXT in your TNC. In that case, the TNC BTEXT
will be sent to whatever UNPROTO UI-View last set. The solution is to
use UI-View's beacons because it will then disable the TNC beacon.

2.Also the station I am working will also then move location to be on top
of my
QTH !
I'll have a look at that.

Host mode none is definitely a bit clunky, but it's the best that can be
done with a TNC in terminal mode. Try using host mode KISS, it's much
better than host mode none and the above problems will disappear. The
TNC will be put into KISS mode when the program starts and put back into
terminal mode when you close it.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK

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