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Installing UI-View 32 on Windows 10


Ralph Milnes
 

I'm trying to do a fresh install of UI-View32 on Windows 10 and all goes
well until I try to configure it. As you may remember, UI-View is designed
to open a .hlp file the first time you try to configure many settings, but
Windows 10 can' t read UI-View's .hlp files. So it sends me to a Microsoft
page that has no solution (it has .hlp readers for installation on Win 8.1
and earlier but not one for Windows 10.)

And I really need to use the UI-View help files to configure it.

Does anyone have a solution?

For example, is there a way to fool Windows 10 into opening an older .hlp
reader.

Or should I start looking at utilities that convert .hlp files to .html?
(This solution would not appear to fix the problem of UI-View being able to
open it's own .hlp files -- but at least I could get at the info in the
.hlp files.)

Ralph NM5RM
Santa Fe NM


 

If you have a 2nd machine with XP win7 or win 8.1 use it for the help file
viewing

Lloyd KO4L
On Sep 6, 2015 1:34 PM, "Ralph Milnes ralphmilnes@... [ui-view]" <
ui-view@...> wrote:



I'm trying to do a fresh install of UI-View32 on Windows 10 and all goes
well until I try to configure it. As you may remember, UI-View is designed
to open a .hlp file the first time you try to configure many settings, but
Windows 10 can' t read UI-View's .hlp files. So it sends me to a Microsoft
page that has no solution (it has .hlp readers for installation on Win 8.1
and earlier but not one for Windows 10.)

And I really need to use the UI-View help files to configure it.

Does anyone have a solution?

For example, is there a way to fool Windows 10 into opening an older .hlp
reader.

Or should I start looking at utilities that convert .hlp files to .html?
(This solution would not appear to fix the problem of UI-View being able to
open it's own .hlp files -- but at least I could get at the info in the
.hlp files.)

Ralph NM5RM
Santa Fe NM

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Gerhard F5VAG
 

Hi Ralph

If you don't find a solution, here is a fall-back. I keep a copy of the
help files as PDF created by KF4CHG in 2004.


I had participated in the Win10 preview program and concluded that it was
"urgent to wait", as the French say.

73 de Gerhard, F5VAG
callsgn at name dot paris


 

Have you tried installing the Win 8.1 version? It may well work on Windows 10
and the Microsoft website just hasn't been updated. Shouldn't be any reason that
it shouldn't work and there's no reason not to try it.

John - K9IJ

Ralph Milnes ralphmilnes@... [ui-view] wrote:

I'm trying to do a fresh install of UI-View32 on Windows 10 and all goes
well until I try to configure it. As you may remember, UI-View is designed
to open a .hlp file the first time you try to configure many settings, but
Windows 10 can' t read UI-View's .hlp files. So it sends me to a Microsoft
page that has no solution (it has .hlp readers for installation on Win 8.1
and earlier but not one for Windows 10.)

And I really need to use the UI-View help files to configure it.

Does anyone have a solution?

For example, is there a way to fool Windows 10 into opening an older .hlp
reader.

Or should I start looking at utilities that convert .hlp files to .html?
(This solution would not appear to fix the problem of UI-View being able to
open it's own .hlp files -- but at least I could get at the info in the
.hlp files.)

Ralph NM5RM
Santa Fe NM





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Posted by: Ralph Milnes<ralphmilnes@...>
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Please do not top post, and trim quoted text as much as possible.

UI-View website:

UI-View Registration:
Select language& fill in your name and callsign. Return later
to collect your registration.

APRS Server List: To update the APRS Server List, change the
download URL to... aprs2.net/APRServe2.txt

For North American users, PMap 9 (Precision Mapping 9.0) along
with PMapServer 9 can provide street level mapping for all of North
America. They can be installed without hassle on Windows 7& 8.
PMapServer is available for download on the UI-View website.
However, Undertow Software is no longer selling new copies of
PMap 9, but existing owners can continue to use it as long as they
can get it registered.

Users of Windows Vista, 7 or 8 should not install UI-View below
Program Files. Instead, create a folder elsewhere. To view UI-View's
built-in context sensitive help file, download and install WinHlp32.exe.


Useful hints and tips about setting up and using UI-View are
available on Stephen WA8LMF's website.

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Yahoo Groups Links



--

John Rice K9IJ
johnr@...
Webmaster, Network Admin, Janitor


Gerhard F5VAG
 

Yes, I did and it worked. But this was several months ago and I can't
verify it today. From my recollection it required something else like
changing a registry entry. But I'm not sure.

73 de Gerhard, F5VAG
callsgn at name dot paris


 

Unfortunately the Windows 8.1 version of the winhlp32 fix will not work on windows 10. For some reason there is a different version for every Windows version. It was the same when 7, 8 and 8.2 came out, there was a delay before MS came up with the fix.


There is a 3rd party fix that works for W 10 however see:
<>


I have it working on W10


73
Jeff G8HUL


 

On 9/7/2015 11:43 AM, g8hul@... [ui-view] wrote:

Unfortunately the Windows 8.1 version of the winhlp32 fix will not work on
windows 10. For some reason there is a different version for every Windows
version. It was the same when 7, 8 and 8.2 came out, there was a delay before
MS came up with the fix.


There is a 3rd party fix that works for W 10 however see:
<>
How does this deal with Windows 10? The page above refers to a pre-release
version of Windows 7.

Are you saying the same zipfile and script worked with Win 10? 32- or 64-bit?
(I have no Win 10 installations to experiment with.)


By the way, don't hold your breath waiting for a installer fix for Win 10.
Microsoft has already indicated that they will NOT be releasing a KB Winhlp
installer for Win 10. If one appears, it will most likely be a third-party
effort.

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Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
<>


Jeff
 

The fix works for W10. Not sure if it has just been updated or it just
works. Scroll down the page and read the posts. It is up and working on my
W10 system.

73
Jeff G8HUL

-----Original Message-----
From: ui-view@... [mailto:ui-view@...]
Sent: 07 September 2015 17:28
To: ui-view@...
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Installing UI-View 32 on Windows 10

On 9/7/2015 11:43 AM, g8hul@... [ui-view] wrote:

Unfortunately the Windows 8.1 version of the winhlp32 fix will not
work on windows 10. For some reason there is a different version for
every Windows version. It was the same when 7, 8 and 8.2 came out,
there was a delay before MS came up with the fix.


There is a 3rd party fix that works for W 10 however see:
<>
How does this deal with Windows 10? The page above refers to a pre-release

version of Windows 7.

Are you saying the same zipfile and script worked with Win 10? 32- or
64-bit?
(I have no Win 10 installations to experiment with.)


By the way, don't hold your breath waiting for a installer fix for Win 10.

Microsoft has already indicated that they will NOT be releasing a KB Winhlp
installer for Win 10. If one appears, it will most likely be a third-party

effort.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
<>









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Posted by: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf@...>
------------------------------------

Please do not top post, and trim quoted text as much as possible.

UI-View website:

UI-View Registration:
Select language & fill in your name and callsign. Return later to collect
your registration.

APRS Server List: To update the APRS Server List, change the download URL
to... aprs2.net/APRServe2.txt

For North American users, PMap 9 (Precision Mapping 9.0) along with
PMapServer 9 can provide street level mapping for all of North America. They
can be installed without hassle on Windows 7 & 8.
PMapServer is available for download on the UI-View website.
However, Undertow Software is no longer selling new copies of PMap 9, but
existing owners can continue to use it as long as they can get it
registered.

Users of Windows Vista, 7 or 8 should not install UI-View below Program
Files. Instead, create a folder elsewhere. To view UI-View's built-in
context sensitive help file, download and install WinHlp32.exe.


Useful hints and tips about setting up and using UI-View are available on
Stephen WA8LMF's website.

------------------------------------

Yahoo Groups Links


 

On 9/7/2015 12:43 PM, 'Jeff' g8hul@... [ui-view] wrote:

The fix works for W10. Not sure if it has just been updated or it just
works. Scroll down the page and read the posts. It is up and working on my
W10 system.

73
Jeff G8HUL

Strange.....

1) My attempts to download the zip file were flagged as "may contain a virus
or malware" by both Panda and AVG antivirus. (Probably due to containing a .CMD
file.) I overrode and downloaded it anyway.

2) The date stamps of the files inside the zip file are circa 2007 and 2009
-- i.e. long before even the first beta of Win 10 so it appears to not have
been updated for at least 5-6 years.

2) Looking at the script, it seems to be doing version checking for versions
of Windows up to Win 7 and aborts the run if it sees any version other than
"6.1"; the under-the-hood version number for Windows. (Vista was 6.0, Win 8.0
is ver 6.2 and Win 8.1 is ver 6.3.)

What version number do you see with Win 10? (Open the command window a.ka.
"DOS box" and type "ver" without the quotes.)

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Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
<>


 

My Version number says Version 10.0.10240


I have uploaded to the files section the set of files that I ran.
It worked without a hitch on my machine. winhlpFIX.zip


73
Jeff G8HUL


Ralph Milnes
 

Thank you to all who posted suggestions for resolving the issue with
opening UI-View32's "Help" files on Windows 10.

I followed Jeff G8HUL's suggestion to use the fix from Komeil Bahmanpour:
<>

It works. I am now able to open UI-View's "Help" files from within UI-View.
I will admit it was/is a little scary using an unconventional fix. For
example, Chrome wouldn't download the file citing security issues. But Edge
(Win 10's new browser) didn't have any problem with it and AVG didn't flag
it. And Windows 10 doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

I did add the two suggested edits in the Settings section of the
install.cmd file:
set WindowsVersion=7
goto :BypassVersionError

At this point, I will keep my fingers crossed that it continues to work
without problems. I will of course report any issues that come up.

[Stephen WA8LMF: For me, the Version command in Win 10 reports: Microsoft
Windows [Version 10.0.10240]

Ralph


 

Any chance there might be a new url for the link suggested?

will not open.

As the post was from 9 years ago, guessing no longer valid.

73 Pete VE1PS


 

On 5/27/2024 3:40 PM, VE1PS wrote:
Any chance there might be a new url for the link suggested?

will not open.

As the post was from 9 years ago, guessing no longer valid.

73 Pete VE1PS

The F5VAG site seems to be mostly defunct.? For years, I used his iframe drop-ins for mapping on the UIview UI-Webserver.? About the time Google imposed new and far more onerous (and expensive) terms for use of Google Maps a few years ago, most of the F5VAG site disappeared.

(It is these changed terms of use at Google that caused APRS.fi to start using Open Streets instead of Google Maps. Which of course also did away with the Street View option at APRS.fi. And why findu.com is now hopelessly broken. )

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Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

APRS-over-VARA igates now operating on 30 & 60 meters
<>

"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
<>

-- APRS over VARA? --
<.>


 

On 5/27/2024 3:40 PM, VE1PS wrote:
Any chance there might be a new url for the link suggested?

will not open.

As the post was from 9 years ago, guessing no longer valid.

73 Pete VE1PS
As far as installing UIview on recent versions of Windows, I have an entire page devoted to setting up UIview, including considerations for Win 7 through Win 11.? (UIview and Precision Mapping do work on Win 11).? Go to the page on my web site at:

<>


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Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

APRS-over-VARA igates now operating on 30 & 60 meters
<>

"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
<>

-- APRS over VARA? --
<.>


 

Thanks everyone, I’ll give the link a go.

73

Pete VE1PS