Connection via WINPDDE ?

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Yesterday I installed the software, and at first tried using the WINPDDE option in the "host mode" settings. Unfortunatly there seemed to be no response via WINPACK 6.4 (Winpack was running, but not connected)T

I then tried setting "None", closed Winpack and all started to work OK ? Is there something I have not done ?

I also have a problem setting UNPROTO in my TNC to CQ,Relay,Wide (Wrong syntax,does not like the comma)

The only way to enter this is:-

UNPROTO CQ Via Relay,Wide

Will this work ?

At present I can only see three local stations, which are in direct range of my station.

The TNC is a Kantronics KPC2, with direct connect to PC running Winpack.Operating system Win98.

Regards

G8XLH

General Comment for Roger"It looks a fine program, I hope it continues,and may restore some real-time QSO's to packet users.It would be usefull if the stations running UIVIEW also included some real-time information in the Station Info screen like....Monitoring 70.200,144.300 beaming north etc.......Then it could be used as an indication of where real-time voice traffic can be exchanged, or help with DXing, but for distances not worthy of posting on the DX Cluster. I guess some form of Input form would help eg Whats your BBS,E-Mail,Where do you listen...What do you think ?"

Roger Barker <[email protected]

#30

In article <923478250.17346@...>, a.ralph@... writes
From: a.ralph@...

Yesterday I installed the software, and at first tried using the WINPDDE option 
in the "host mode" settings. Unfortunatly there seemed to be no response via 
WINPACK 6.4 (Winpack was running, but not connected)T

I then tried setting "None", closed Winpack and all started to work OK ? Is 
there something I have not done ?You must have MON ON in WinPack. Also, you need HEADERLN ON and MCOM ON,
or similar according to TNC type. The important points are that the
frame header must be on a separate line to the frame content, and the
header must show the frame type. If you use host mode none, then UI-View
sends suitable commands to the TNC when it starts up.

I also have a problem setting UNPROTO in my TNC to CQ,Relay,Wide (Wrong 
syntax,does not like the comma)

The only way to enter this is:-

UNPROTO CQ Via Relay,Wide

Will this work ?Yes, that is correct syntax, but if you are using UI-View other than in
WINPDDE mode (WINPDDE mode can't transmit) and you input it as
"CQ,RELAY,WIDE" in the Station Setup, then UI-View should translate it
to the correct format for whatever host mode you are using.

One point about this RELAY,WIDE thing:-

I've seen a lot of comment about it on the packet network, but I left
discussion of sending beacons via digis out of the help for a good
reason. I intended UI-View to be usable, on an everyday basis, on the
packet channels that people normally use - i.e. the BBS channels. I
didn't intend it to be a program like APRS, that really needs its own
channel in order to be useful. A main aim has been to keep the amount of
traffic it generates to a minimum.

In some areas you'll get away with digipeating beacons without any
problem. In south Lincs / north Cambs, we've been doing it for months
and no-one has complained or even commented. It's a rural area, so
packet users aren't as numerous as in some other parts of the country,
and we're a very friendly lot!

However, in some areas you will undoubtedly get serious problems from
the local packet police if you start bouncing beacons around
digipeaters. Therefore my advice would be to use digipeating with
caution on the BBS channels. It isn't a prerequisite of using the
program.

Of course, if you use the program on the 2m channel reserved for
programs like UI-View and APRS (if/when the RSGB get round to allocating
such a channel ;-), then that caution will no longer apply.

The latest version of the help now includes this comment in the Station
Setup section:-

*
If you send your beacon via digipeaters, please be aware that it can
create significant extra traffic, particularly if you use a generic
repeater alias such as RELAY. The use of digipeaters in the beacon
unproto address may not be appropriate in areas where the packet
channels are very busy. DON'T let's get UI-View a bad name by generating
too much beacon traffic!
*

-- 
Roger Barker, G4IDE  roger@...
Boston, UK           

Alan Ralph

#31

Thanks for the reply Roger, I will go home tonight and try it out.

Regards

Alan G8XLH

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-----Original Message-----
From:	Roger Barker [SMTP:roger@...]
Sent:	07 April 1999 14:17
To:	ui-view@...
Subject:	[ui-view] Re: Connection via WINPDDE ?

From: Roger Barker <roger@...>

In article <923478250.17346@...>, a.ralph@... writes
From: a.ralph@...

Yesterday I installed the software, and at first tried using the WINPDDEoption 
in the "host mode" settings. Unfortunatly there seemed to be no responsevia 
WINPACK 6.4 (Winpack was running, but not connected)T

I then tried setting "None", closed Winpack and all started to work OK ?Is 
there something I have not done ?You must have MON ON in WinPack. Also, you need HEADERLN ON and MCOM ON,
or similar according to TNC type. The important points are that the
frame header must be on a separate line to the frame content, and the
header must show the frame type. If you use host mode none, then UI-View
sends suitable commands to the TNC when it starts up.

I also have a problem setting UNPROTO in my TNC to CQ,Relay,Wide (Wrong 
syntax,does not like the comma)

The only way to enter this is:-

UNPROTO CQ Via Relay,Wide

Will this work ?Yes, that is correct syntax, but if you are using UI-View other than in
WINPDDE mode (WINPDDE mode can't transmit) and you input it as
"CQ,RELAY,WIDE" in the Station Setup, then UI-View should translate it
to the correct format for whatever host mode you are using.

One point about this RELAY,WIDE thing:-

I've seen a lot of comment about it on the packet network, but I left
discussion of sending beacons via digis out of the help for a good
reason. I intended UI-View to be usable, on an everyday basis, on the
packet channels that people normally use - i.e. the BBS channels. I
didn't intend it to be a program like APRS, that really needs its own
channel in order to be useful. A main aim has been to keep the amount of
traffic it generates to a minimum.

In some areas you'll get away with digipeating beacons without any
problem. In south Lincs / north Cambs, we've been doing it for months
and no-one has complained or even commented. It's a rural area, so
packet users aren't as numerous as in some other parts of the country,
and we're a very friendly lot!

However, in some areas you will undoubtedly get serious problems from
the local packet police if you start bouncing beacons around
digipeaters. Therefore my advice would be to use digipeating with
caution on the BBS channels. It isn't a prerequisite of using the
program.

Of course, if you use the program on the 2m channel reserved for
programs like UI-View and APRS (if/when the RSGB get round to allocating
such a channel ;-), then that caution will no longer apply.

The latest version of the help now includes this comment in the Station
Setup section:-

*
If you send your beacon via digipeaters, please be aware that it can
create significant extra traffic, particularly if you use a generic
repeater alias such as RELAY. The use of digipeaters in the beacon
unproto address may not be appropriate in areas where the packet
channels are very busy. DON'T let's get UI-View a bad name by generating
too much beacon traffic!
*

-- 
Roger Barker, G4IDE  roger@...
Boston, UK           

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