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Have my UIView set up as a Digi.

This has happened a few times in the past and because it has been years between issues I can never figure out how to fix it. Because I have it up and running and don't need to tweak it on a regular basis i forget how to do it.

Here is todays, saga:

Just had a big update to Windows 10. (everything in UIView working fine before) Everything restarted. UIView came back up. My Digi did not come up with the Blue box around it like it has in the past. I know that some times that it takes awhile for it to show that is why I let it run for an hour or two before sending this. Usually the box comes up within 30 minutes or so.

I have not made any changes to UIView.

I have forced it to transmit 3 or 4 times and the box still is not coming up.


What am I missing here or what have I forgotten to do?


Thanks


Bob
W8RID

Bob W8RID

Just had a big update to Windows 10. (everything
in UI-View working fine before) Everything restarted.
UI-View came back up. My Digi did not come up with
the Blue box around it like it has in the past.

Where do you have UI-View installed? Windows 10
(anything newer than XP) doesn't like anything making
changes to "protected" areas like Program Files etc.
so it should be installed somewhere else, like
C:\UI-View32 or C:\RADIO\UI-View32.

UI-View stores settings in uiview3.ini in the installation
folder, and also stores lists of heard stations and so
on below there. You might be able to fiddle with "install
as administrator" or "run as administrator" but it makes
life far simpler if it's just installed somewhere else.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

On 7/22/2017 11:20 AM, davet354tfd@... [ui-view] wrote:

Have my UIView set up as a Digi.

This has happened a few times in the past and because it has been years
between issues I can never figure out how to fix it. Because I have it up and
running and don't need to tweak it on a regular basis i forget how to do it.

Here is todays, saga:

Just had a big update to Windows 10. (everything in UIView working fine
before) Everything restarted. UIView came back up. My Digi did not come up
with the Blue box around it like it has in the past. I know that some times
that it takes awhile for it to show that is why I let it run for an hour or
two before sending this. Usually the box comes up within 30 minutes or so.

I have not made any changes to UIView.

I have forced it to transmit 3 or 4 times and the box still is not coming up.


What am I missing here or what have I forgotten to do?

The box denotes an/*igate*/, not a digipeater. (The green star symbol denotes
the digipeater.

The blue box won't appear until you gate someone else from RF to the Internet.


By the way, you are skating on very thin ice, running UIview on Windows 10.
Due to the incessant forced major version updates of Win 10 (about twice a
year,) with no choice to opt out or revert, sooner or later it is an almost
certainty that UIview is going to break. There will be no going back to a
previous version of Win 10.

For a UIview installation that you want to run indefinitely long-term, in a
basically unattended mode, you are far safer running it on Windows 7 which is
now finished evolving. If you dedicate a machine (or virtual machine) to
UIview and firewall (i.e. block) _*ALL*_ IP ports except 14580 for the APRS
server log-in (this includes blocking port 80 http and the common ports for
email), Win7 can remain quite safe and secure indefinitely.

By _*NOT*_ using the machine for casual web surfing and email, you will
radically reduce the malware and hacking threats.

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It is installed under C;/Peak Systems/UIview.

For some reason the blue box just appeared. Don't know why or how.

I have read the other reply to my question. Don't know if I should be looking for another program or not because of the Win10 potential issue.

But I'll ask this anyway in this forum, What other software is out there that will do what UIView does?

Bob
W8RID

You might want to check out APRSISCE/32. Many people find it a suitable replacement for UI-View. You can read about it on our Wiki at:



Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Bob W8RID wrote...

It is installed under C;/Peak Systems/UIview.

You would think that would rule out Windows UAV
being the problem.

As Stephen mentioned, the "blue box" indicates
an iGate. What is the actual problem? Is your
UI-View installation supposed to be running as
both an iGate and digi? Are you beaconing on RF?
Are you decoding other stations? Is the iGate
enabled? This would be settings in APRS Server
Setup and in "edit igate.ini". Is the digipeater
enabled? If so, have you at some point in time
edited the [DIGI_OPTIONS] section to change
UIFLOOD to the two letter abbreviation for your
state, and to change UITRACE to WIDE? This way,
you can respond to SSn-N abd WIDEn-N. Alias
substitution should of course be enabled.

You don't have it installed in a a protected area,
but if you make a change to UI-View close it, is
it storing the changes in uiview32.ini?

As of 5 minutes ago, I see W8RID running UI-View.
It does have a validated TCPIP connection. It
does seem to be alternately beaconing what looks
like a valid position and one at 100 degrees south
(actually an object) which of course is impossible.

PS (OT) having a blast with a BITX40 on 40M.


--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

Bob W8RID wrote...

Don't know if I should be looking for another program
or not because of the Win10 potential issue.

Not in my opinion. It is still rock-stable here under
Windows 10 in spite of Stephen's "doom and gloom" comments
and as feature-rich as it ever was. Feel free to look
around and make up your own mind, but UI-View is still
as good as it ever was.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

Keith:

You are correct and I was wrong. (been a very long week) It is set up as a igate and not a digi.
Everything is installed outside the "protected area"
The igate is set up and seems to be functioning at the moment. In the igate set up the only thing that it is set up to do in the Inet to RF tab is send selected weather info to RF.

The blue box showed up yesterday finally after several hours of running. Is that because that there was nothing sent to RF as far as weather goes? That could have been the whole issue.

Like I said in my first post, since this basically runs all by itself and I dont have to tweak it daily I forget how most of it works when I have to go in and change things.

Bob
W8RID

Bob W8RID wrote...

The blue box showed up yesterday finally after
several hours of running.

I just did a little test. I deleted my own station
and re-started UI-View. As soon as I beaconed, my
own station showed up on the screen. However, the
blue box around it didn't show up until it had gated
the first station. That matches what Stephen was
saying yesterday. If it took a few hours for you
yesterday, perhaps there isn't a lot of activity
around you. In my test, I forced an FTM-400 to
beacon, but I wouldn't have had to wait too long
to hear other stations. I think that is what you
were running into, but can you do the same test?

I said that UI-View32 was "rock solid" here under
Windows 10. The only fiddling I've had to do was
re-add support for the .hlp help file. The context
sensitive help was one of the things that set UI-View
apart from the other APRS clients when Roger G4IDE
was still with us, and continues to do so. See
Stephen's UI-View Notes and download and install
RestoreWinhelp32.exe to get the help file going again.




--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"