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Hi All,

No problem here running the proggy. Apologies if anything has been mentioned
before, I take the 5th amendment as a new subscriber !

South Yorks Packet User Group, Nodes and BBS's are now sending beacons in
Lat/Lon format, and we request further development of the program....Please
Roger !

We are all using BPQ..Kiss software on various machines and we are hoping it
could become a usefull development tool i.e. if you know where the users
are, you can plan !

I appreciate the progam may be in its early development stages, and
therefore needs some tinkering, but the group fully supports Roger's latest
enterprise.

Thought's for the moment:

1. Can we have the station list in time order or a choice ?

2. On Win 3.11 the Window does not display 2 lines... I know, but the other
machine has just gone down, and it is the old font problem :-)

3. A standardised digi sytem... I know that others are trying over
Packet..perhaps the Users will win...but Roger knows the limitations !

4. The maps are good, and I expect that is all we can expect, as a continuos
zoom is not possible without the CD being in the drive, without making them
toooo large. (?)

5. Educate the User's who are frightened in case you or I give them a
visit...most don't even know where they are! :-)

If this has all been said before, then my apologies, but perhaps it needs to
be said.

Well Done Roger...keep it coming...we like it !

73 John M0ADS

M0ADS@...
M0ADS@...

Packet M0ADS@GB7MRU.#19.GBR.EU

As a packet user (and Ui-View) I am very pleased to see that you have taken
the "lead" in introducing lat/long to your BBs beacons. I sometimes operate
packet away from my home BBS (Club talks-Thinking Day-Jota-or "away" on
business") and it would be very nice if we could encourage more sysops to
follow your example, since it would enable me to determine which BBS/Nodes
can be heard from my temporary location.

Alan G8XLH

In article <000001be813c$65174fc0$2393a6c3@m0ads>, John Nixon
<john@...> writes

From: "John Nixon" <john@...>

[snip]

I appreciate the progam may be in its early development stages, and
therefore needs some tinkering, but the group fully supports Roger's latest
enterprise.

Thought's for the moment:

1. Can we have the station list in time order or a choice ?

I can have a look at that. I've done a similar thing with other
programs, but it can have problems:-

(a) To keep it in time order requires continually removing existing list
entries and then inserting them at the top, as stations are heard.
That's ok with 20 or so stations, but, when the great day comes and
there are dozens of stations in the list, it can be a bit clunky.

(b) You will be just about to click a list entry to get the details, or
whatever, and it moves!

2. On Win 3.11 the Window does not display 2 lines... I know, but the other
machine has just gone down, and it is the old font problem :-)

Oops! The window is sized to twice the font height, plus 4 pixels.
However, I've just tested it, and it appears to need another 4 pixels in
Win31 before it will display two lines. (Given that some users have had
the program for three months, and no-one has previously commented on it,
suggests that very few people still use Win31!) I've fixed it now.

3. A standardised digi sytem... I know that others are trying over
Packet..perhaps the Users will win...but Roger knows the limitations !

I've commented on the digipeating, or not, of beacons in a previous
message. The limits of what is acceptable in terms of digipeating are
going to vary greatly from one area to another. BPQ nodes make very good
digipeaters, because they can support more than one alias, so you can
use a generic alias such as RELAY, and also use the node's alias.

4. The maps are good, and I expect that is all we can expect, as a continuos
zoom is not possible without the CD being in the drive, without making them
toooo large. (?)

You can't take maps straight off the Attica CD, even if you have it in
the drive. You need to first save them as GIFs or BMPs and create the
associated INF files. I could add support for vectored maps, which give
better zoom, but the available data for the UK is very poor. Using
bitmaps seems a good method for our little country!

5. Educate the User's who are frightened in case you or I give them a
visit...most don't even know where they are! :-)

In that case, they'll have to apply a bit of self-training! ;-)

I have been surprised by the problems that have occurred with people
trying to put lat and long in their BTEXT. The most common one is not
putting enough digits for longitude. Also, to make the input of lat and
long in the UI-View Station Setup as simple as possible, I made the
format e.g. ddd.mm.hh - two separating dots. However, the dot between
degrees and minutes is removed before the data is transmitted, so if you
copy the *input* format into a BTEXT, it doesn't work.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK