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Re: Idea and Questions.

Keith Maton
 

From: Roger Barker <roger@...>

You can do that by holding down Ctrl and double-clicking. (The Ctrl is
needed to differentiate between clicks concerned with maps and clicks
concerned with stations.) Or you can Ctrl + right-click a blue square to
get a one line menu giving the map description, which can then be clicked
to load the map.
Thanks, Roger. I guess I didn't RTFM about this one.

GIF is smaller, BMP is faster to load. The next update will load GIFs
about twice as fast as previous versions, but loading GIFs will always be
slower than loading BMPs because they have to be uncompressed.

I ask because I've had probems with gifs. With some gifs, I find that
when I load them, UIV crashes with a GPF. When I look in the map
directory, it's created a .bmp of 1.05K with the same name as the .gif
that I had. If I delete the .bmp and try again, the same happens. If I
convert the gif to a bmp, it works OK.
It sounds like there's something unusual about your GIFs. Do they load ok
into graphics utilities, such as PaintShop Pro, and actually identify as
GIF format?
They work fine. In fact, they were created in Paintshop Pro 5. They
were screen grabbed from AutoRoute 2000 (By the way, guys AR2000
produces absolutely superb maps, and isn't a bad route planner either),
pasted into PSP5 and then saved.

The current method of loading GIFs is to convert them to a BMP using
GIF2BMP.EXE which you will find in the UI-VIEW directory, load the BMP
into the map window, and then delete it. Yours are obviously failing
during the conversion, so either the format is wrong, or GIF2BMP.EXE is
corrupted.
As said above, I've not used gif2bmp, so it can't be that. Should it
matter whether they are 87a or 89a gif format?

Thanks, once again Roger.

Keith. G6NHU


Re: Idea and Questions.

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

In article <924341973.112314.0@...>, Keith Maton
<feek@...> writes
From: "Keith Maton" <feek@...>

Roger.

An idea - How easy this would be, I don't know.

Maps are shown with the blue squares indicating smaller maps. I've
now made a few for the area. Would it be possible for UI-View to load
these smaller maps simply by clicking on the blue corner square?
You can do that by holding down Ctrl and double-clicking. (The Ctrl is
needed to differentiate between clicks concerned with maps and clicks
concerned with stations.) Or you can Ctrl + right-click a blue square to
get a one line menu giving the map description, which can then be
clicked to load the map.

Secondly - More about maps.
What is the preferred format? gif or bmp?
GIF is smaller, BMP is faster to load. The next update will load GIFs
about twice as fast as previous versions, but loading GIFs will always
be slower than loading BMPs because they have to be uncompressed.

I ask because I've had probems with gifs. With some gifs, I find that
when I load them, UIV crashes with a GPF. When I look in the map
directory, it's created a .bmp of 1.05K with the same name as the .gif
that I had. If I delete the .bmp and try again, the same happens. If I
convert the gif to a bmp, it works OK.
It sounds like there's something unusual about your GIFs. Do they load
ok into graphics utilities, such as PaintShop Pro, and actually identify
as GIF format?

The current method of loading GIFs is to convert them to a BMP using
GIF2BMP.EXE which you will find in the UI-VIEW directory, load the BMP
into the map window, and then delete it. Yours are obviously failing
during the conversion, so either the format is wrong, or GIF2BMP.EXE is
corrupted.

From the next update, GIFs will be loaded direct into the map window
without the intermediate step, but you'll obviously still get a problem
if the format of the files is incorrect.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


Idea and Questions.

Keith Maton
 

Roger.

An idea - How easy this would be, I don't know.

Maps are shown with the blue squares indicating smaller maps. I've
now made a few for the area. Would it be possible for UI-View to load
these smaller maps simply by clicking on the blue corner square?

Secondly - More about maps.
What is the preferred format? gif or bmp?
I ask because I've had probems with gifs. With some gifs, I find that
when I load them, UIV crashes with a GPF. When I look in the map
directory, it's created a .bmp of 1.05K with the same name as the .gif
that I had. If I delete the .bmp and try again, the same happens. If I
convert the gif to a bmp, it works OK.

Odd.

Keith G6NHU


Additional feature?

"Mick O'Donnell" <[email protected]
 

Hello Roger.

Just a thought.

UI-View sends out a Beacon when first run, I believe, which should enable
the appropriate Symbol to appear on the map for that call. Would it be
possible to have UI-View send out a "remove" Symbol command when UI-View is
closed down. Because it doesn't do this, there are users around with
unexpired Symbols which state they are there, when in fact, they aren't, if
you see what I am getting at?

ie. if you are going to send a "Hello" beacon on start-up of UI-View, why
not send a "Farewell" beacon on closure of UI-View?

Can new Callsigns be made to flash when they appear on the map for the first
time, or at least appear in a different colour, until confirmed with the
reception of their next beacons?

eg. new ones Red, confirmed Green, or Font size is different etc?

Can messages be timestamped so we can see what time the messages were left.
There is enough room for a Timestamp column.

Thanks and 73, Mick O'Donnell, g8ccv@gb7ben.#43.gbr

Phone/Fax:: +44 (0)1908 316052
Mobile : +44 (0)836 228084
E-Mail: mickodonnell@...
ICQ 27902590


Re: AGW Digi. Was Re: Ui-View Updates..

Keith Maton
 

See the message from Andy Pritchard.

That sorts it - Thanks Andy.

Keith

On 16 Apr 99, at 20:33, Emlyn Cooke wrote:
From: "Emlyn Cooke" <egcooke@...>

I get the same error...

73 Emlyn (MW0ATT)


----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Maton <feek@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: 16 April 1999 19:13
Subject: [ui-view] AGW Digi. Was Re: Ui-View Updates..


From: "Keith Maton" <feek@...>

I've downloaded the digi, but get the following error when I try and run
it.

"Exception #32735 (Could not load description string; <owl/except.rc>
not bound?)."

Anyone got any ideas?

When I click OK, the error repeats and then if I OK it, it goes away,
but the digi isn't running. I HAVE got it installed in the same
directory as agwpe.exe.

Keith. G6NHU


On 16 Apr 99, at 18:01, Andy Pritchard wrote:
From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi All

Just a quick note about agw digi it needs to be installed and run from
the
same directory as agwpe.exe


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AGW DIGI The Fix

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi All

After working with a local station who had the same problem it seem you need
the file AGWBBS.SYS in the agw directory this is the same as agwpe.sys it
would seem so a simple ..

COPY AGWPE.SYS to AGWBBS.SYS does the job

73, Andy G7OCW


Re: AGW Digi. Was Re: Ui-View Updates..

"Emlyn Cooke" <[email protected]
 

I get the same error...

73 Emlyn (MW0ATT)

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Maton <feek@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: 16 April 1999 19:13
Subject: [ui-view] AGW Digi. Was Re: Ui-View Updates..


From: "Keith Maton" <feek@...>

I've downloaded the digi, but get the following error when I try and run
it.

"Exception #32735 (Could not load description string; <owl/except.rc>
not bound?)."

Anyone got any ideas?

When I click OK, the error repeats and then if I OK it, it goes away, but
the digi isn't running. I HAVE got it installed in the same directory as
agwpe.exe.

Keith. G6NHU


On 16 Apr 99, at 18:01, Andy Pritchard wrote:
From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi All

Just a quick note about agw digi it needs to be installed and run from
the
same directory as agwpe.exe


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AGW Digi. Was Re: Ui-View Updates..

Keith Maton
 

I've downloaded the digi, but get the following error when I try and run it.

"Exception #32735 (Could not load description string; <owl/except.rc>
not bound?)."

Anyone got any ideas?

When I click OK, the error repeats and then if I OK it, it goes away, but
the digi isn't running. I HAVE got it installed in the same directory as
agwpe.exe.

Keith. G6NHU

On 16 Apr 99, at 18:01, Andy Pritchard wrote:
From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi All

Just a quick note about agw digi it needs to be installed and run from the
same directory as agwpe.exe


Re: Ui-View Updates..

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi All

Just a quick note about agw digi it needs to be installed and run from the
same directory as agwpe.exe

Andy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Pritchard <apritch@...>
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Date: 15 April 1999 21:49
Subject: [ui-view] Re: Ui-View Updates..


From: "Andy Pritchard" <apritch@...>

Hi All

Digipeater for AGW at the following



73, Andy G7OCW


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Re: Ui-View Updates..

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

In article <E10Xsdh-0006Gx-00@...>, Dave Ackrill
<dave.g0dja@...> writes
[snip]

I've been asked by a station in the US if it will be released for general
availability soon?
The main problem is support. I have no idea what suitable maps are
available in other countries, and I know that I would be inundated with
questions from overseas users. It's very easy with something like this
to reach a point where all the time you have available to spend on it is
actually spent on support, and so development of the program grinds to a
halt.

Also, at the moment in the USA, controversy has finally erupted over
WB4APR's attempts to restrict the writing of APRS compatible software.
(I'm amazed that he managed to keep the lid on it for so many years!)
Therefore I certainly wouldn't want anyone over there to start using
UI-View, in case it got involved in the argument.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


Re: Ui-View Updates..

 

How about using the logging system in UI-View?

Go to the 'Log' drop down and start a log. Only thing is to remember to
restart it every time you reload UI-View.

Using a log file is also useful for those mobiles that zip around the
screen. So that you can replay it later.

I have one of G7PAF driving around Leeds now.

BTW - Thanks for the program Roger, it's providing hours of interest and
experiment here at least. :-)

I've been asked by a station in the US if it will be released for general
availability soon?

Cheers de Dave (G0DJA)

Just a quick question to you Roger, Is it possible to keep a list of RX`ed
stations so that when a newer release of your software is installed the
stations received earlier can be re-called...I had a nice map going till I
installed the 0.73b release and no matter which files I choose not to
overwrite, I can`t get the original stations back..


Re: Ui-View Updates..

Andy Pritchard
 

Hi All

Digipeater for AGW at the following



73, Andy G7OCW


Re: UI-View monitoring.

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

In article <003901be86bb$fc8f2b00$5333883e@ray>, Raymond Jones
<rayjones@...> writes
From: "Raymond Jones" <rayjones@...>

Hello Roger,

I don't know whether the following problem is unavoidable, or whether I am
doing something which is not intended.

Firstly, with a 486DX2/66, 12 Meg, W95, UI-View 071b (yes, I do now have the
later upgrade!) BPQ, NODE2BAY and Baycom modem, I can successfully run
UI-View on its own, without Winpack. I presume that is intended.

If I start Winpack, all is fine. If I then close down Winpack, the UI-View
monitoring ceases. Monitoring can be re-started by either re-loading Winpack
or shutting down and re-loading UI-View.
That's because of the way BPQ works. You can tell it what monitored
frames you want it to decode by passing it a port mask (e.g. you can say
"provide decoded monitored frames from ports 1, 3, 4"), but the same
mask applies to all host mode applications. At the moment, when WinPack
starts up, it sets the port mask to whatever you have input using the
virtual TNC MASK command (I think the default is ports 1 to 8) but it
sets the mask to 0 when it closes, so UI-View stops getting monitored
frames.

What I really need to do is to stop using BPQ's internal mask, and mask
the ports myself in WinPack, but that will have to wait for the next
WinPack update.

Secondly, I have my normal packet machine, a P133, 48 Meg, W95 and the
dreaded Flexnet. UI-View is in DDE mode of course, and so Winpack is loaded
for UI-View to run. If I unload Winpack, and then re-load it, then UI-View
does not recommence monitoring.
If you close WinPack, you're breaking the DDE link. In the next update,
I'll force UI-View to close at that point, because once you've broken
the link, it won't re-establish itself.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


Re: Ui-View Updates..

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

In article <000201be86bb$4e75c560$8341883e@266mmx>, Mark - M1AJG
<m1ajg@...> writes
From: "Mark - M1AJG" <m1ajg@...>

Hello all,

Many thanks for the latest update of UI-View Roger...It`s proving extremely
popular around the West Yorkshire area with many stations using the software
or modifying their beacons to contain their locations..

Just a quick question to you Roger, Is it possible to keep a list of RX`ed
stations so that when a newer release of your software is installed the
stations received earlier can be re-called...I had a nice map going till I
installed the 0.73b release and no matter which files I choose not to
overwrite, I can`t get the original stations back..
You can get them back with a new version, unless the structure of the
saved data changes between versions, which happened between 0.71b and
0.73b.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


UI-View monitoring.

"Raymond Jones" <[email protected]
 

Hello Roger,

I don't know whether the following problem is unavoidable, or whether I am
doing something which is not intended.

Firstly, with a 486DX2/66, 12 Meg, W95, UI-View 071b (yes, I do now have the
later upgrade!) BPQ, NODE2BAY and Baycom modem, I can successfully run
UI-View on its own, without Winpack. I presume that is intended.

If I start Winpack, all is fine. If I then close down Winpack, the UI-View
monitoring ceases. Monitoring can be re-started by either re-loading Winpack
or shutting down and re-loading UI-View.

Secondly, I have my normal packet machine, a P133, 48 Meg, W95 and the
dreaded Flexnet. UI-View is in DDE mode of course, and so Winpack is loaded
for UI-View to run. If I unload Winpack, and then re-load it, then UI-View
does not recommence monitoring.

73, Ray, G3NKL


Ui-View Updates..

"Mark - M1AJG" <[email protected]
 

Hello all,

Many thanks for the latest update of UI-View Roger...It`s proving extremely
popular around the West Yorkshire area with many stations using the software
or modifying their beacons to contain their locations..

Just a quick question to you Roger, Is it possible to keep a list of RX`ed
stations so that when a newer release of your software is installed the
stations received earlier can be re-called...I had a nice map going till I
installed the 0.73b release and no matter which files I choose not to
overwrite, I can`t get the original stations back..

Dunno if the above makes much sense :-)

73 all de Mark (M1AJG)


V0.73b Available

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

I've just uploaded the V0.73b update to my web site. Please note that
this is only an update, not a complete installation system. The update
can be applied to V0.6b or later. The url is:-



Please don't publicise the link outside this mailing list.

Here are the relevant sections of HISTORY.TXT:-

[There was a V0.72b, but it was only released to one person.]

V0.73b 1999-Apr-14 1. Symbols added to SYMBOLS.TXT for BBS and node.
2. The [TRANSLATE] section added to SYMBOLS.TXT.
This allows you to assign a symbol to a particular
callsign type, irrespective of what symbol
character the stations transmit. For example, all
GB7??? stations can be made to display as BBSs,
even if they are only transmitting locator
beacons. There is more information about this in
the comments in SYMBOLS.TXT and in the "UI-View
Symbols" section of the help.
3. The Ping report window now autosizes,
previously it was too small for some callsigns.
4. File menu added, with Print options.
5. Exit menu option moved to the File menu.
6. Font option added to the station right-click
menu.
7. Bug fixed with changing the label background
colour.
8. The scroll position of the map is saved between
program sessions.
9. The size and position of the Terminal window is
saved between program sessions.
10. Help updated to reflect the above changes.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


Binary Attachments!!

Roger Barker <[email protected]
 

A couple of days ago, someone inadvertently sent the HAPPY99.EXE
worm/virus to my WinPack mailing list. It caused several people a
problem, and so I thought it was worthwhile sending the following to
this list:-

1. This list is not moderated. I do not check any of the postings before
you get them.

2. Please do not send binary attachments to the list.

3. If we all do '2', then, should any binary attachments be received,
they can be treated with extreme suspicion!

4. If you receive a copy of HAPPY99.EXE from any source, even your best
mate, DON'T RUN IT! The sender is completely unaware that he has sent
it!

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@...
Boston, UK


BPQ CONFIG

"Larry Wright" <[email protected]
 

Hello all of you
Hope that you are all well
My immediate need's are in order to understand what to do with BPQ
using Uiview so here attached are my current amended BPQ Config file
pse send your so I can compare I'm using a PK232 In KISS MODE
And yes I'm sure that some thing's are completely incorrect
73 from Larry
larrywright1@...
g0kiz@...
larry.wright@...


Window sizes

John Bent
 

Hi Roger,

In a similar vein to Alans request about scroll bars on the maps
retaining their previous settings, could the same be done for the
terminal screen? I usually have it open at the bottom of the screen
sized to a couple of lines, however if I have to close the program
it defaults back to centre screen next time round.

A minor quible in an otherwise excellent program Roger, thanks.

73 de John (G0FSM)