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coc us squad/ team activation query


 

I note on page 93 the US armored platoon, squads 1 and 2, each have a junior leader and a team of 11 men. I take it this can activate on a '2' as a squad but should the Leader be killed they count as a team and can only be activated thus?

Thanks


 

US Army armored infantry company:
HQ:
1 x M3A1 half-track, CO, 1 x M3A1 half-track, XO
HQ also has jeep, driver; M3 half-track (Maintenance)
HQ section and Maintenance section (who don't normally fight)
M3A1 has M2HB .50 cal.
3xArmored infantry Platoons each:
HQ Section
Plt HQ (5 men w/carbines), Rifle Team (NCO and 4 men, M1 rifles)
1 x M3A1 half-track
2xRifle squads each:
1 x M3 half-track, 2x 4-man Rifle teams, 1xSqd Leader, 2 scouts, driver.
M3 has M1919A4 .30 cal
1xLMG squad:
1 x M3A1, Driver. 2 x LMG teams each Squad Leader, 4-men (carbines/M1),1x.30 cal M1919A4.? These have vehicle mount for 1 LMG on each side plus carry a tripod for use off of the half-track.
1xMortar squad:
1xM3 half-track, Driver. Mortar Squad 1xSL, Gunner, Loader, 6xAmmunition bearers (carbines), 1x60mm mortar (to be fired when out of the half-track)
AT Platoon
HQ:
1 x jeep, 1 x M3A1 Half-track, 1 x PLT HQ (carbines), 2 drivers
3 x GUN Sections
Each 1xM3A1 half-track, driver, Squad leader, Gunner, 2 loaders, 5 x ammunition handlers (carbines/M1), 1 x 57mm anti-tank gun.
NOTES:
1.? Half-track drivers are armed with a SMG (M3 or M3A1, or Thompson)
2.? Each half-track has a bazooka and five rockets.
3.? Infantry squads issued 2 rifle grenade launchers (1 per team)
4.? Infantry squads not issued BAR (but if one was laying around...)
5.? The above is full strength.? U.S. Army armored infantry suffered heavier casualties than leg infantry and were almost always short men.? Squads could be 4-6 men plus a vehicle driver (or less or more).? Several battalions "lost" their 57mm guns and converted the crews to infantry.

NOTE: deployment of the AT platoon could be as a unit or one gun could be attached to each infantry platoon.? 1943 TO&E.


Michael Reese


 

My take on this. I'm writing in game terms, rather than historical organisation.?

The squad is still a squad if the leader is killed. It can only activate on a 2, or by a senior leader using one of their command initiatives.?

By contrast the 60mm mortar squad is actually a team in ChoC terms, activating on a 1, or with an initiative from a senior leader.?

Kind regards
Andrew Holmes

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 at 13:55, martyn simpson via groups.io
<martynsimpson@...> wrote:
I note on page 93 the US armored platoon, squads 1 and 2, each have a junior leader and a team of 11 men. I take it this can activate on a '2' as a squad but should the Leader be killed they count as a team and can only be activated thus?

Thanks


 

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No,? they are a squad, and? if theit JL is killed, will only activate on a 2.?
Whilst the JL is still alive and functioning, he is able to activatecthem with an oderif he is allocated a 3.?





 

Teams would be anything that is not in the TO&E that has been attached. For example the base German squad does not have any MG's where the US has BAR's and the British have Bren Guns.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 1:19 PM thefrpat <frpat@...> wrote:
No,? they are a squad, and? if theit JL is killed, will only activate on a 2.?
Whilst the JL is still alive and functioning, he is able to activatecthem with an oderif he is allocated a 3.?





 

What? Must pull my rule book out as the LMG is the base firepower of a German squad.? A Panzergrenadier squad has two LMG.

I bet the German squads are a LMG Team and a Rifle Team.? Only one leader though.
Michael Reese


 

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I believe you are correct, sir.?

Byron?


On Dec 3, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Michael Reese <mrtank688@...> wrote:

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What? Must pull my rule book out as the LMG is the base firepower of a German squad.? A Panzergrenadier squad has two LMG.

I bet the German squads are a LMG Team and a Rifle Team.? Only one leader though.
Michael Reese