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Legacy TT files


 

Doug,
? That looks like a TinyTrak3 clone.? It is not a Byonics product.
Byon


 

I will suggest the Groups.IO again.? There is a files section, WIKI, and someone could possible think of a way to use DataBases.
I realize these are limited with a free account, but you could always link to another (free) site if you need more space.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, June 14, 2020, 2:16:23 AM EDT, zl1vfo via groups.io <zl1vfo@...> wrote:


I've still got a TT1 in service as a bit of a test aid, mainly for setting radio deviations from something handy. I've also still got the various TinyTrak 1.4 hex, config, and manual pdf files, and also DK7IN's varient 1.6 which added smartbeaconing, but removed the test tone setting parts, as PIC code space was very limited on the PIC16F84. Also have the TinyTrak2 config program, if someone has one and wants to reconfigure it, but can't fine their download of the config program.

Allen, might it be an idea to have them added to a Byonics support page for obsolete hardware, as I couldn't find them on the website?

-Ian ZL1VFO


 

I've still got a TT1 in service as a bit of a test aid, mainly for setting radio deviations from something handy. I've also still got the various TinyTrak 1.4 hex, config, and manual pdf files, and also DK7IN's varient 1.6 which added smartbeaconing, but removed the test tone setting parts, as PIC code space was very limited on the PIC16F84. Also have the TinyTrak2 config program, if someone has one and wants to reconfigure it, but can't fine their download of the config program.

Allen, might it be an idea to have them added to a Byonics support page for obsolete hardware, as I couldn't find them on the website?

-Ian ZL1VFO


 

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Is this a TT1 or TT2? This came from a Japanese web page and my Japanese is really rusty ?



Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Hank Riley via groups.io <n1ltv@...>
Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2020 2:37 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [TinyTrak] Legacy TT files
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Allen,

Having been directed to that old, archived Byonics website by the last post reminds me of something I've wanted to comment upon.

I don't believe there are any files available (text and executable) on the Byonics website about any TT products before TT3.? There probably are those files, perhaps appearing in a disorganized and less than optimal way, stored here on this very Groups.io.? I just took a look for them and it is not a snap, by any means, to find them.? Lingering adverse effects from the demise of Yahoogroups I guess.

If I'm correct in saying they're not at Byonics, I think they should be.? At least some note about where to find them could be there, but why not actually have them there arranged in a cohesive manner just as they used to be?? They could be tucked away in a less prominent place on the site and clearly identified as obsolete products or however you want to label them.

Hank


 

I have an original TinyTrak, in Kit form, still in its envelope. Never got around to soldering it up. I come across it now and then. I am not even sure if the PIC is programmed.
I think that is why I got the assembled versions of the TT3Plus and the TT4. I am not a very active user. They spend most of the time between usage. :-)

James

On 12/06/2020 23:49, Allen Lord wrote:
Hank,
I am, er..slightly older...than Byon, but Byon has been writing code from the womb. So this TT1 thing...did it run on steam, require FORTRAN, and need IBM punch cards to set it up? How did the electricity get through the airwaves before Hertz invented it? Byon and I used to go to a lot of Ham shows, and people would constantly bring us these ancient things to configure for them. It seems nothing can actually kill a TT3, and if you can't find an adult capable of programming one,? you can always find a 12 year old kid who knows what "USB drivers" and "Com Ports" are, and don't even know that parallel ports were once a thing.
73,
Allen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hank Riley via groups.io <> <n1ltv@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Many on this list must be smiling along with me right now.? What a
youngster you must be, Allen.? ?:)
That's an easy question (falsehood) to answer (correct).
*TT1 and TT2 came before.*? From what I understand all the dinosaurs
had already left Vegas by that time.? Plenty of lounge lizards are
still around, though; they will never become extinct and will
happily roam the earth until the end of time.
______________________________________________________________________________
On Friday, June 12, 2020, Allen wrote:
Hank,
As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3.


 

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I have used many TT-1? & TT-2 , many of which are still in service.
Yell out if you can’t find the config files.
?
Rgds,
Marcus
?

From: Jack Smith
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 08:55
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Legacy TT files
?
I have one of the TT-1s. I was one of the beta testers back in the stone age, and still smile when I see my call in the documentation. I need to get a new GPS for it, as mine is one of the equally ancient Rand McNally GPS units.
?
I do need to make sure I have the configuration program somewhere!
?
73,
Jack KE4LWT

?


 

My first Byonics product was also a PicPac.?
Decoded pretty well for the time, and had a nice display.? I used the display on another project, but the reassembled it for a demonstration I did.? I came across a KE4NVY website with some old Byonics info:?


It includes stuff on TinyTrk I/II/III and PicPac as well as other APRS and packet stuff.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Friday, June 12, 2020, 6:57:16 PM EDT, Cliff Sojourner <cls@...> wrote:


never heard of a TT1, but I started with a PicPac which was just a way to get? APRS text in to or out of a modem...? radio etc was up to you.? It was coal gas powered.

On 6/12/20 3:49 PM, Allen Lord wrote:
Hank,

I am, er..slightly older...than Byon, but Byon has been writing code from the womb. So this TT1 thing...did it run on steam, require FORTRAN, and need IBM punch cards to set it up? How did the electricity get through the airwaves before Hertz invented it? Byon and I used to go to a lot of Ham shows, and people would constantly bring us these ancient things to configure for them. It seems nothing can actually kill a TT3, and if you can't find an adult capable of programming one,? you can always find a 12 year old kid who knows what "USB drivers" and "Com Ports" are, and don't even know that parallel ports were once a thing.?

73,

Allen

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hank Riley via <n1ltv=[email protected]> wrote:

Many on this list must be smiling along with me right now.? What a youngster you must be, Allen.? ?:)

That's an easy question (falsehood) to answer (correct).?

TT1 and TT2 came before.? From what I understand all the dinosaurs had already left Vegas by that time.? Plenty of lounge lizards are still around, though; they will never become extinct and will happily roam the earth until the end of time.
______________________________________________________________________________


On Friday, June 12, 2020, Allen wrote:

Hank,

As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3.?


Jack Smith
 

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I have one of the TT-1s. I was one of the beta testers back in the stone age, and still smile when I see my call in the documentation. I need to get a new GPS for it, as mine is one of the equally ancient Rand McNally GPS units.

I do need to make sure I have the configuration program somewhere!

73,
Jack KE4LWT?


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Allen Lord <allen@...>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:49:50 PM
To: [email protected] Group Moderators <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Legacy TT files
?
Hank,

I am, er..slightly older...than Byon, but Byon has been writing code from the womb. So this TT1 thing...did it run on steam, require FORTRAN, and need IBM punch cards to set it up? How did the electricity get through the airwaves before Hertz invented it? Byon and I used to go to a lot of Ham shows, and people would constantly bring us these ancient things to configure for them. It seems nothing can actually kill a TT3, and if you can't find an adult capable of programming one,? you can always find a 12 year old kid who knows what "USB drivers" and "Com Ports" are, and don't even know that parallel ports were once a thing.?

73,

Allen

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hank Riley via <n1ltv=[email protected]> wrote:
Many on this list must be smiling along with me right now.? What a youngster you must be, Allen.? ?:)

That's an easy question (falsehood) to answer (correct).?

TT1 and TT2 came before.? From what I understand all the dinosaurs had already left Vegas by that time.? Plenty of lounge lizards are still around, though; they will never become extinct and will happily roam the earth until the end of time.
______________________________________________________________________________


On Friday, June 12, 2020, Allen wrote:

Hank,

As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3.?


 

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never heard of a TT1, but I started with a PicPac which was just a way to get? APRS text in to or out of a modem...? radio etc was up to you.? It was coal gas powered.

On 6/12/20 3:49 PM, Allen Lord wrote:

Hank,

I am, er..slightly older...than Byon, but Byon has been writing code from the womb. So this TT1 thing...did it run on steam, require FORTRAN, and need IBM punch cards to set it up? How did the electricity get through the airwaves before Hertz invented it? Byon and I used to go to a lot of Ham shows, and people would constantly bring us these ancient things to configure for them. It seems nothing can actually kill a TT3, and if you can't find an adult capable of programming one,? you can always find a 12 year old kid who knows what "USB drivers" and "Com Ports" are, and don't even know that parallel ports were once a thing.?

73,

Allen

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hank Riley via <n1ltv=[email protected]> wrote:
Many on this list must be smiling along with me right now.? What a youngster you must be, Allen.? ?:)

That's an easy question (falsehood) to answer (correct).?

TT1 and TT2 came before.? From what I understand all the dinosaurs had already left Vegas by that time.? Plenty of lounge lizards are still around, though; they will never become extinct and will happily roam the earth until the end of time.
______________________________________________________________________________


On Friday, June 12, 2020, Allen wrote:

Hank,

As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3.?


 

Hank,

I am, er..slightly older...than Byon, but Byon has been writing code from the womb. So this TT1 thing...did it run on steam, require FORTRAN, and need IBM punch cards to set it up? How did the electricity get through the airwaves before Hertz invented it? Byon and I used to go to a lot of Ham shows, and people would constantly bring us these ancient things to configure for them. It seems nothing can actually kill a TT3, and if you can't find an adult capable of programming one,? you can always find a 12 year old kid who knows what "USB drivers" and "Com Ports" are, and don't even know that parallel ports were once a thing.?

73,

Allen

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hank Riley via <n1ltv=[email protected]> wrote:
Many on this list must be smiling along with me right now.? What a youngster you must be, Allen.? ?:)

That's an easy question (falsehood) to answer (correct).?

TT1 and TT2 came before.? From what I understand all the dinosaurs had already left Vegas by that time.? Plenty of lounge lizards are still around, though; they will never become extinct and will happily roam the earth until the end of time.
______________________________________________________________________________


On Friday, June 12, 2020, Allen wrote:

Hank,

As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3.?


Hank Riley
 

Many on this list must be smiling along with me right now.? What a youngster you must be, Allen.? ?:)

That's an easy question (falsehood) to answer (correct).?

TT1 and TT2 came before.? From what I understand all the dinosaurs had already left Vegas by that time.? Plenty of lounge lizards are still around, though; they will never become extinct and will happily roam the earth until the end of time.
______________________________________________________________________________


On Friday, June 12, 2020, Allen wrote:

Hank,

As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3.?


 

Hank,

As far as I know, there were no Byonics products prior to the TT3. Do you mean the old SOTT files out there on the Interweb? Byon handles the webpage, and sees all these posts sonner or later, so he may have a better idea what you are after. I am a "newcomer" with Byonics, working with Byon for about the last 15 years. When Byonics was in Las Vegas, and dinosaurs?roamed the earth, would be better questions for Byon.

73,

Allen

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:37 AM Hank Riley via <n1ltv=[email protected]> wrote:
Allen,

Having been directed to that old, archived Byonics website by the last post reminds me of something I've wanted to comment upon.

I don't believe there are any files available (text and executable) on the Byonics website about any TT products before TT3.? There probably are those files, perhaps appearing in a disorganized and less than optimal way, stored here on this very Groups.io.? I just took a look for them and it is not a snap, by any means, to find them.? Lingering adverse effects from the demise of Yahoogroups I guess.

If I'm correct in saying they're not at Byonics, I think they should be.? At least some note about where to find them could be there, but why not actually have them there arranged in a cohesive manner just as they used to be?? They could be tucked away in a less prominent place on the site and clearly identified as obsolete products or however you want to label them.

Hank


Hank Riley
 

Allen,

Having been directed to that old, archived Byonics website by the last post reminds me of something I've wanted to comment upon.

I don't believe there are any files available (text and executable) on the Byonics website about any TT products before TT3.? There probably are those files, perhaps appearing in a disorganized and less than optimal way, stored here on this very Groups.io.? I just took a look for them and it is not a snap, by any means, to find them.? Lingering adverse effects from the demise of Yahoogroups I guess.

If I'm correct in saying they're not at Byonics, I think they should be.? At least some note about where to find them could be there, but why not actually have them there arranged in a cohesive manner just as they used to be?? They could be tucked away in a less prominent place on the site and clearly identified as obsolete products or however you want to label them.

Hank