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Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams


 

Is there anywhere to get a clear copy of circuit diagrams for TT4 and MTT4BT?
The PDFs are super blurry....

Thanks
Scott V.


 

Here is a clean MTT4BT schematic.

73,

Allen AF6OF

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 9:02 PM scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...> wrote:
Is there anywhere to get a clear copy of circuit diagrams for TT4 and MTT4BT?
The PDFs are super blurry....

Thanks
Scott V.


 

This is a clean copy of the schematic for the Kit version of the TT4 attached. (The .pdf is the whole manual)

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2021 9:02 pm
Subject: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

Is there anywhere to get a clear copy of circuit diagrams for TT4 and MTT4BT?
The PDFs are super blurry....

Thanks
Scott V.


 

I agree the MTT4B manual scematic is very difficult to read.? The TT4 kit schematic in its manual is quite clear, but the built version is a bit fuzzy.?? Although I found it readable.? Would be good to get clearer version in future manual releases.

The TT4 Kit vs. TT4 Built schematics are in a different format and there are some actual differences.
I know Scott has posted questions about the TTL vs. RS232 level shifting portion of the circuit.? These circuits are different in the 2 products as the kit has 2 sets of jumpers.?

Also someone recently posted about the temperature sensor.? Those circuits look to be different as well.? The built version seems to have a POT adjustment for temperauture that isn't on the kit.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 10:13:38 AM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


This is a clean copy of the schematic for the Kit version of the TT4 attached. (The .pdf is the whole manual)

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2021 9:02 pm
Subject: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

Is there anywhere to get a clear copy of circuit diagrams for TT4 and MTT4BT?
The PDFs are super blurry....

Thanks
Scott V.


 

Rob,

Was the MTT4B copy (.pdf) that I sent earlier still fuzzy? It looks clear from this side. I will try to find a clear "Built" version TT4 too.

Allen AF6OF

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 9:35 AM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
I agree the MTT4B manual scematic is very difficult to read.? The TT4 kit schematic in its manual is quite clear, but the built version is a bit fuzzy.?? Although I found it readable.? Would be good to get clearer version in future manual releases.

The TT4 Kit vs. TT4 Built schematics are in a different format and there are some actual differences.
I know Scott has posted questions about the TTL vs. RS232 level shifting portion of the circuit.? These circuits are different in the 2 products as the kit has 2 sets of jumpers.?

Also someone recently posted about the temperature sensor.? Those circuits look to be different as well.? The built version seems to have a POT adjustment for temperauture that isn't on the kit.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 10:13:38 AM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


This is a clean copy of the schematic for the Kit version of the TT4 attached. (The .pdf is the whole manual)

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2021 9:02 pm
Subject: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

Is there anywhere to get a clear copy of circuit diagrams for TT4 and MTT4BT?
The PDFs are super blurry....

Thanks
Scott V.


 
Edited

Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

The ones you sent were clear.
I was referring to the ones in the manual being fuzzy.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 2:59:25 PM EDT, scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...> wrote:


Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.

Scott V.


 

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

One of the things I find extremely helpful is the Byonics archive: Lots of good old reference materials, old config software, etc. A nice Museum of all things Byonics!?http://www.byonics.com/tinytrak4/

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...>
To: kb8rco@... <kb8rco@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

I remember those manuals with odd foldout schematic drawings.??
I don't recall them called Photofacts though.

I looked at the Heathkit stuff and some other old brand radios but didn't remember photofacts.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 18:22, vhsproducts via groups.io
<vhsproducts@...> wrote:
Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

I will be damned, they still exist!?https://www.samswebsite.com/

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I remember those manuals with odd foldout schematic drawings.??
I don't recall them called Photofacts though.

I looked at the Heathkit stuff and some other old brand radios but didn't remember photofacts.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 18:22, vhsproducts via groups.io
<vhsproducts@...> wrote:
Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

I wasn't able to open the website?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 8:18:37 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


I will be damned, they still exist!?https://www.samswebsite.com/

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I remember those manuals with odd foldout schematic drawings.??
I don't recall them called Photofacts though.

I looked at the Heathkit stuff and some other old brand radios but didn't remember photofacts.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 18:22, vhsproducts via groups.io
<vhsproducts@...> wrote:
Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via groups.io <kb8rco@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?http://byonics.com/downloads/TinyTrak4%20Built%20Hardware%20Manual%20v8.pdf? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

Hmmm, I just opened it from that very link. You can probably Google "Sams Technical?Publishing" to find a link your browser will like better.

Allen

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:42 PM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
I wasn't able to open the website?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 8:18:37 PM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


I will be damned, they still exist!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I remember those manuals with odd foldout schematic drawings.??
I don't recall them called Photofacts though.

I looked at the Heathkit stuff and some other old brand radios but didn't remember photofacts.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 18:22, vhsproducts via
<vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:
Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

This one showed as a link and worked properly
The last email did not.
I wonder if it was blocked.

Oh well.? Working now.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 9:05:50 PM EDT, Allen Lord <allen@...> wrote:


Hmmm, I just opened it from that very link. You can probably Google "Sams Technical?Publishing" to find a link your browser will like better.

Allen

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:42 PM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
I wasn't able to open the website?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 8:18:37 PM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


I will be damned, they still exist!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I remember those manuals with odd foldout schematic drawings.??
I don't recall them called Photofacts though.

I looked at the Heathkit stuff and some other old brand radios but didn't remember photofacts.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 18:22, vhsproducts via
<vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:
Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

[Edited Message Follows]
Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.


 

I guess "Big Social Media" has found yet another channel to block!?

73,

Allen

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 6:23 PM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
This one showed as a link and worked properly
The last email did not.
I wonder if it was blocked.

Oh well.? Working now.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 9:05:50 PM EDT, Allen Lord <allen@...> wrote:


Hmmm, I just opened it from that very link. You can probably Google "Sams Technical?Publishing" to find a link your browser will like better.

Allen

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:42 PM Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]> wrote:
I wasn't able to open the website?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO



On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 8:18:37 PM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


I will be damned, they still exist!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I remember those manuals with odd foldout schematic drawings.??
I don't recall them called Photofacts though.

I looked at the Heathkit stuff and some other old brand radios but didn't remember photofacts.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 18:22, vhsproducts via
<vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:
Rob,

Yes, I do too. The MTT4BT is on the verge of being just a tad too complicated to draw out that way on a single page. Remember the old "Sam's Photofacts" publications filled with schematics that folded up like road maps? Maybe you are not that old, but in those ancient days, almost every commercial electronic product had a Photofacts pub for bench technicians!?

73,

Allen AF6OF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giuliano via <kb8rco=[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

I didn't remember seeing a V8 until I just check Byon's website.?
The version in V8 is VERY clear!

I guess I am just old school, but I prefer the old style schematics with lines crossing and showing the trace connections more than the ones which require you to find labels (like PA3 at the uP and the PA3 up in the right corner at JP15).?

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 3:34:05 PM EDT, vhsproducts via <vhsproducts=[email protected]> wrote:


Scott,

I see what you mean about the schematic being furry in V7.2. I don't think that V 8.0 is substantially different, I have not explored the differences. Byon or Rob will probably know.?? As you know, I am the Micro-Trak guy, so some of the minutia of the regular Byonics products are not always in my wheelhouse...I do what I can when I can!?

73,

Allen


-----Original Message-----
From: scottjvincent <scottjvincent@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Anywhere to get a clear copy of the circuit diagrams

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Both were very clear for me, thank you very much, much better.
Now if you can find the?User Manual for the TinyTrak4 built hardware. Version 7.2, it's very blurry in the current pdf.

Scott V.