I'm probably in a chemo fog, but most of the packets -originated- by the callsign KB9HGI-15 appear (raw as listed on ) to be other people's packets in its payload field..? Shouldnt?these be identified as 3rd-party in someway since they don't match? the APRS?protocol with a first-characer?identifier?
Or does the?3rd party flag only apply if the?packet is re-transmitted back to RF as in a message packet.
I'm embarrassed?that I am now forgetting more about APRS details than I care to admit.
Bob
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:15 PM KB9HGI < kb9hgi@...> wrote: Here is my tiny tracker KB9HGI-15 which is in a fixed location but is moving all over the place. 
? Sent from for Windows ? ? Which SSID is your digipeater on? KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:
This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with some other SSIDs:
And you're currently underway:
Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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Look at your raw packets at
It appears to me that the KB9HGI-10
IGate is actually the cause of your woes.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 8/13/2021 12:15 PM, KB9HGI wrote:
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Here is my tiny tracker KB9HGI-15 which is
in a fixed location but is moving all over the place.
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Sent from for Windows
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Which SSID is your digipeater on?
KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:
This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with
some other SSIDs:
And you're currently underway:
Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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I will try not to read too much into your tracking around marihuana dispensaries! :) Two quick questions: What values do you have loaded in the TOSV and PPERIOD fields??
I am not sure it will fix all the issues, but you might enable PPeriod and send position reports at 600 seconds, and set TOSV to False. I think this will brute force your position to your fixed location.?
Its always a good idea when putting out quires to the group to send a screen shot of your DISPLAY settings. The people here are really good at spotting anomalies.
FYI, I only see your fixed digi when I searched for your call sign on aprs.fi. Looking at the Raw Data in aprs.fi showed a horror show of exception reports.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
-----Original Message-----
From: KB9HGI <kb9hgi@...>
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 13, 2021 9:15 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT4 digipeater
Here is my tiny tracker KB9HGI-15 which is in a fixed location but is moving all over the place.
?
Sent from for Windows
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Which SSID is your digipeater on? KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:  This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with some other SSIDs:  And you're currently underway:  Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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Here is my tiny tracker KB9HGI-15 which is in a fixed location but is moving all over the place. 
? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: adamback42@...Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:36 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT4 digipeater ? Which SSID is your digipeater on? KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:
This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with some other SSIDs:
And you're currently underway:
Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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Well spoke too soon the KB9HGI-15 Digi is moving again and does not have a GPS connected its in Canton, IL at the moment and looks like its been bouncing around. ? This is just crazy! ? ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: adamback42@...Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:36 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT4 digipeater ? Which SSID is your digipeater on? KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:
This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with some other SSIDs:
And you're currently underway:
Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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My Digi is KB9HGI-15 and KB9HGI-10 is a igate I have had for awhile KB9hgi-1 is my weather station KB9hgi-2 is my FT2D and KB9HGI-9 is my Ft-400 in the truck ? Yeah it switch my location back for the time being on on the TT4? I was told to turn Bmode off but Have not done that yet. Should my alias be wide1 and path wide1-2?? I¡¯m still trying to figure this thing out! ? Steve KB9HGI ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: adamback42@...Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:36 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT4 digipeater ? Which SSID is your digipeater on? KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:
This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with some other SSIDs:
And you're currently underway:
Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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Which SSID is your digipeater on? KB9HGI-15? I see you've used a lot of SSIDs:  This is where I see what I expect to be your TT4, along with some other SSIDs:  And you're currently underway:  Everything checks out at the moment, right?
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I got the tiny tracker 4 and set it up for digipeat. it's been working I think but there is a problem. I put my location in for fixed with no GPS
And it shows at my house on aprs.fi. I check a couple hours later and it has me somewhere lese with someone else info like right
Now it say¡¯s Dave Columbia, MO sometimes it shows I¡¯m in Canton, IL with someone info. Why does it keep moving me and I don¡¯t have a
GPS hooked up. Im fixed location. any tips for setting this thing up for a stand alone digipeater?
?
Steve KB9HGI
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
Thanks to all who replied on this topic! Your various hints got me going in the right direction. I should have known that unplugging the USB adapter at the PC would mess things up. Started unplugging at the TT4 and all worked out OK.
Lesson learned: don't try new things on the last night of a stressful week!
Thanks & 73s!
Matt - N8SHA
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
Always looking for good free terminal programs with macros.? I'll give it a try. I always create macros for the software reset in KISS and TEXT modes.
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 11:35, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote: Jardy,
I did not mean to sound so defensive! My main concern is that loading your PC with other Prolifics drivers ( Which may also be counterfeit!) makes troubleshooting serial connections much more complicated. From here, it's almost impossible for us ( Byonics and VHS-me) to trouble shoot users computer problems as well as any actual TT4 or cable issues. Installing competitive software does not help.
FYI, I suggest that people download the free serial terminal program ComTestSerial from Microridge.?https://www.microridge.com/comtestserial.htm? Aside from being a generally useful terminal program, it will show all the ComPorts on your PC at a glance and all the status and settings. I like that it has Macro's too, although I don't always use them.
73,
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Aug 7, 2021 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
The only reason I mentioned it is because the email I was responding to mentioned Prolific.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
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On Aug 7, 2021, at 06:45, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:
?
Jardy,
Byonics does not sell counterfeit Prolifics chips. Stick with the Drivers from the Byonics webpage, which as far as we know, are the ONLY drivers that will work.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
You might want to try Prolific 3.2.0.0. China has made a lot of fake Prolific chips. The latest drivers cause them to not work. Go to Miklor.com for more info.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 6, 2021, at 17:56, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
?So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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It¡¯s all good!
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
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On Aug 7, 2021, at 08:35, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:
?
Jardy,
I did not mean to sound so defensive! My main concern is that loading your PC with other Prolifics drivers ( Which may also be counterfeit!) makes troubleshooting serial connections much more complicated. From here, it's almost impossible for us ( Byonics and VHS-me) to trouble shoot users computer problems as well as any actual TT4 or cable issues. Installing competitive software does not help.
FYI, I suggest that people download the free serial terminal program ComTestSerial from Microridge.?https://www.microridge.com/comtestserial.htm? Aside from being a generally useful terminal program, it will show all the ComPorts on your PC at a glance and all the status and settings. I like that it has Macro's too, although I don't always use them.
73,
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Aug 7, 2021 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
The only reason I mentioned it is because the email I was responding to mentioned Prolific.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 7, 2021, at 06:45, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:
?
Jardy,
Byonics does not sell counterfeit Prolifics chips. Stick with the Drivers from the Byonics webpage, which as far as we know, are the ONLY drivers that will work.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
You might want to try Prolific 3.2.0.0. China has made a lot of fake Prolific chips. The latest drivers cause them to not work. Go to Miklor.com for more info.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 6, 2021, at 17:56, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
?So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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Jardy,
I did not mean to sound so defensive! My main concern is that loading your PC with other Prolifics drivers ( Which may also be counterfeit!) makes troubleshooting serial connections much more complicated. From here, it's almost impossible for us ( Byonics and VHS-me) to trouble shoot users computer problems as well as any actual TT4 or cable issues. Installing competitive software does not help.
FYI, I suggest that people download the free serial terminal program ComTestSerial from Microridge.?https://www.microridge.com/comtestserial.htm? Aside from being a generally useful terminal program, it will show all the ComPorts on your PC at a glance and all the status and settings. I like that it has Macro's too, although I don't always use them.
73,
Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, Aug 7, 2021 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
The only reason I mentioned it is because the email I was responding to mentioned Prolific.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 7, 2021, at 06:45, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:
?
Jardy,
Byonics does not sell counterfeit Prolifics chips. Stick with the Drivers from the Byonics webpage, which as far as we know, are the ONLY drivers that will work.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
You might want to try Prolific 3.2.0.0. China has made a lot of fake Prolific chips. The latest drivers cause them to not work. Go to Miklor.com for more info.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 6, 2021, at 17:56, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
?So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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The only reason I mentioned it is because the email I was responding to mentioned Prolific.? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
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On Aug 7, 2021, at 06:45, vhsproducts via groups.io <vhsproducts@...> wrote:
?
Jardy,
Byonics does not sell counterfeit Prolifics chips. Stick with the Drivers from the Byonics webpage, which as far as we know, are the ONLY drivers that will work.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
You might want to try Prolific 3.2.0.0. China has made a lot of fake Prolific chips. The latest drivers cause them to not work. Go to Miklor.com for more info.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 6, 2021, at 17:56, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
?So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
Jardy,
Byonics does not sell counterfeit Prolifics chips. Stick with the Drivers from the Byonics webpage, which as far as we know, are the ONLY drivers that will work.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
-----Original Message-----
From: JARDY DAWSON via groups.io <JARDY72@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
You might want to try Prolific 3.2.0.0. China has made a lot of fake Prolific chips. The latest drivers cause them to not work. Go to Miklor.com for more info.?
Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
On Aug 6, 2021, at 17:56, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
?So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
A lot of junk builds up in windows (not the least of which is the bloated os).? We have had work win machines get up over 100 com ports, but it gets annoying.? Clear the old ones out:
I had a win 10 machine just finally slow down so much (disk access often hitting 100% for 15 minutes after boot), that I just got another dell and grumbled about lenovo quality control.? Then I needed a linux machine and decided to put a blank ssd in the old (not really that old) lenovo and load the mint distro.? Wow, what a nice os -- apparently there was nothing wrong with the lenovo (either windows corruption or maybe failing hard disk).? Every feature of the laptop worked out of the box with linux mint.
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Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
Date: Friday, August 06, 2021 7:29 PM
A couple of items:
1. Windows 10 keeps track of every device that was ever connected, and just keeps incrementing
??? the COM# port ids.? Some 'older applications' like TeraTerm may only 'acknowledge' ports 1 - 9 or so.
??? In Device Manager, you can show hidden and clean out devices that are not in use, but are taking up
??? lower COM# numbers.
2. The TT4 provides feedback on initial boot up. You need to see this initial message in TeraTerm
??? This can be difficult with the TT USB cable as it powers the TT4 on J2 pin 4.
??? Three options here:
??? a) Open case and use the jumper for the TT4 pin 4 selection to cycle and reset the TT4
??? b) Make sure the TT4 is not powered through the "Rado port' (J1 pin 7) and cycle power using J2
??????? You cannot disconnect / reconnect the USB side because the TT4 is initiated
??????? before the PC sets up new COM# port and makes it active.
??? c) NOTE: carefully ground the Atmega chip reset pin - doesn't take much, just a touch to ground
??????? Kit version - Micro Pin 9 to ground Micro pin 11.
??????? PreBuilt version - micro pin 4, but no easy access.?
????????????? Schem references access on J5, but I don't see that connection on the board.
NOTE about 2b:? Be very careful of the JP6.?
???? JP6 must be on Vcc - Make sure it is NOT Vin when connecting the TT USB cable.
On Friday, August 6, 2021, 9:55:17 PM EDT, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
Good to know it works for others. Not sure why it didn't work the first time around. I made sure I had installed the drivers from the Byonics website. Perhaps newer drivers already existed? I dunno. Anyways, I uninstalled all the drivers, reinstalled the drivers from Byonics, rebooted, and it is recognizes it now.
At this point, I can't get TeraTerm to connect to it. It shows conncected in the COM port, but nothing displays in the terminal window. The only thing different from the quick start that I can figure is that I'm not connected to a radio right now. I was just figuring I could configure it first. Cycling the device by un-plugging and plugging it back in has resulted in several BSODs so far.
Matt
N8SHA
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
A couple of items: 1. Windows 10 keeps track of every device that was ever connected, and just keeps incrementing
??? the COM# port ids.? Some 'older applications' like TeraTerm may only 'acknowledge' ports 1 - 9 or so. ??? In Device Manager, you can show hidden and clean out devices that are not in use, but are taking up
??? lower COM# numbers.
2. The TT4 provides feedback on initial boot up. You need to see this initial message in TeraTerm
??? This can be difficult with the TT USB cable as it powers the TT4 on J2 pin 4. ??? Three options here: ??? a) Open case and use the jumper for the TT4 pin 4 selection to cycle and reset the TT4 ??? b) Make sure the TT4 is not powered through the "Rado port' (J1 pin 7) and cycle power using J2 ??????? You cannot disconnect / reconnect the USB side because the TT4 is initiated
??????? before the PC sets up new COM# port and makes it active.
??? c) NOTE: carefully ground the Atmega chip reset pin - doesn't take much, just a touch to ground
??????? Kit version - Micro Pin 9 to ground Micro pin 11. ??????? PreBuilt version - micro pin 4, but no easy access.?
????????????? Schem references access on J5, but I don't see that connection on the board.
NOTE about 2b:? Be very careful of the JP6.?
???? JP6 must be on Vcc - Make sure it is NOT Vin when connecting the TT USB cable.
On Friday, August 6, 2021, 9:55:17 PM EDT, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
Good to know it works for others. Not sure why it didn't work the first time around. I made sure I had installed the drivers from the Byonics website. Perhaps newer drivers already existed? I dunno. Anyways, I uninstalled all the drivers, reinstalled the drivers from Byonics, rebooted, and it is recognizes it now.
At this point, I can't get TeraTerm to connect to it. It shows conncected in the COM port, but nothing displays in the terminal window. The only thing different from the quick start that I can figure is that I'm not connected to a radio right now. I was just figuring I could configure it first. Cycling the device by un-plugging and plugging it back in has resulted in several BSODs so far.
Matt
N8SHA
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
You might want to try Prolific 3.2.0.0. China has made a lot of fake Prolific chips. The latest drivers cause them to not work. Go to Miklor.com for more info.? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Oh look!! Pretty lights!!
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On Aug 6, 2021, at 17:56, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
?So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
Good to know it works for others. Not sure why it didn't work the first time around. I made sure I had installed the drivers from the Byonics website. Perhaps newer drivers already existed? I dunno. Anyways, I uninstalled all the drivers, reinstalled the drivers from Byonics, rebooted, and it is recognizes it now.
At this point, I can't get TeraTerm to connect to it. It shows conncected in the COM port, but nothing displays in the terminal window. The only thing different from the quick start that I can figure is that I'm not connected to a radio right now. I was just figuring I could configure it first. Cycling the device by un-plugging and plugging it back in has resulted in several BSODs so far.
Matt
N8SHA
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
Matt,
The Prolifics Drivers on the Byonics page work with everything from 95' all the way through WIN 10...I use these cables every day on Win 10.
73,
Allen AF6OF
If you purchased the TT USB cable, download the driver from Byonics.
Don't use other drivers.? I don't own one, but know of others that have had issues with drivers not downloaded from Byonics.
On Friday, August 6, 2021, 8:56:35 PM EDT, Matthew Adair < mladair@...> wrote:
So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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Re: TT USB not compatible with Windows 10
If you purchased the TT USB cable, download the driver from Byonics.
Don't use other drivers.? I don't own one, but know of others that have had issues with drivers not downloaded from Byonics.
On Friday, August 6, 2021, 8:56:35 PM EDT, Matthew Adair <mladair@...> wrote:
So.... I just purchased a TT4 and accessory cables.? After installing drivers, I connected the TT USB cable to my computer (Windows 10). Looking at the Device Manager for the COM port, I get the message "PL2393HXA PHASED OUT SINCE 2012. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SUPPLIER." Installing the latest drivers from Prolific didn't help either.
Has anybody had any success getting this to work with Windows 10?
Thanks,
Matt
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